Yes, it is a touchy subject, and many of us have been able to stay civil. Vamp hasn't.

How about YOU come up with something? Don't bring any religion into it, don't say it has a soul, just fact. As I've said, it's not even a mammal until it has the backbone and lungs at least, and it doesn't have those for 8 weeks.

Nobody who is against abortion has come up with ONE solid reason as to why it should be illegal. Not one.

Tiny- haha, that actually made me laugh.

And the problem with Vamp is that he was not being civil in his arguements. Civility does not include calling names, and telling other people to kill themselves. Yes, people get heated in arguments. People also need to show self-control, otherwise they look ignorant.

The trimester stuff is all fact, so deal with it.

And no, it's not a catfish. It's a parasite. I thought we had already established that.

I dont use religion to state my opinions im not even a religious person.Where in any of my posts did i bring up religion??You want to use science to back up your statements.but the fact is science is rewritten all the time so you cant base shit on that either.And rotting eye a parasite?? lmao thats the best one ive heard yet.I think alot of people would change there mind if they ever seen an abortion first hand like i have.maybe some have but i am pretty sure most havent.

I dont know a single person thats ever witnessed one then come out saying there for it so i think its something u have to experience.

Perfect. I think you're an asshole, too.

And what's wrong with calling people who have abortions "Hitler?" Please, for my own sanity, how the fuck is that more "stupid" than posting pictures of 9/11 and other fucking insensitive things?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Hitler want to create his own "super race?" Through killing ones who weren't adequate, the ones who weren't up to standard and the ones he just didn't want to think about and be a part of his world?

Wow, that sounds like abortion, doesn't it? Awesome, d00d.

Way to take offense, Adolf. Do you need a tissue?

As for calling a child in it's mother womb a parasite...

Why don't we call parasites babies, instead? It's just a word, isn't it? Or do you actually consider a human child nothing more than a parisitic blob of flesh?

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Nate said he isn't religious and he thinks science is bullshit. I find that even funnier. I can't believe some people...

It's true that people get heated. I'm keeping out of it because if I got in to it you'd all think I was SFF. :p

This threads degrading pretty fast, as we all knew it would, but if you guys wanna discuss it rationally ill pop back in.

I'm still waiting for them to use fact. Yes, science is re-written, and the second they come up with facts that say they're humans the whole time, or that they have souls, fine. But as of right now, the things that classify something as a mammal include both lungs and a spinal chord. They don't have those until 8 weeks in. That is fact. You don't have facts. None of you. You whine about them being living humans, when they aren't human the whole time. Then you say "How do you know" to everything, when you know less because you're so quick to disregard scientific evidence even though it's based in fact. I'm not saying you shouldn't have your own beliefs, but to make laws based on that is wrong, and it's pushing your beliefs on everybody else. You're just as bad as the people who started the "Jesus Died For You" thread. Probably worse, because they never called anybody murderers, they never compared anybody to mass murdering dictators, and they never wished death on people.

You all still have nothing. You haven't brought up one single fact to support anything you've said. And when someone brings in factual evidence to support the opposite side, you're quick to dismiss it and say "Come on, bring something better than THAT". How about you come up with something better than NOTHING. You can't, and that's why you've been so quick to resort to petty insults. You have no proof, no evidence. Just some pseudo-religious bullshit.

for the first time i stand 100% behind EVERY WORD of what sam just posted.

Beatifully crafted sam, good form.What people dont seem to get is that they ARE pushing their beliefs on others, and not only that, on everyone essentially since they want to make it LAW. I mean come on, if its evil and we're all going to hell then let us, there is no wrong and right if your denied the ablity to make your choice.

hey, cool, that's twice now you've given me props for something I said.