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AUSTIN316426808 02-05-2005 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i always thought that the 70's was one of the greatest decades for filmmaking.. (especially for horror and action) and the end of an era...

I used to wonder why .. was it because i was first watching films then ... was it because they had more grit - more texture ...

then it hit me ... in the 70's horror films were for the most part - movies staring adults .. seasoned actors - mature themes.

In '78 Carpenter came along and showed us how things would change .. an effective, wildly successful film featuring mostly teenagers being dispatched by a madman.. which would set the pace for the next couple of decades.
Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm St ...tons of others ..
The focus was on the teenage demographic.

So now we have a horror film culture that is primarily teen based.
Another major player in this was the VCR. In the past serious horror films were mostly rated R. Kids couldnt get in ..
but now with the VCR kids are seeing more horror films .. becoming more 'jaded' and ate the stuff up creating a demand .. for more teen horror films.

We all know this trend is still strong today with few exeptions.
Its the kids that pay to see films. Adults seem to find it a chore to go to the theatre, and when they rent films for the weekend ... well its generally not some grade c slasher flick.
(i'm talking average joe here - not the folks on this board)

Anyway - this is was the long way of explaining why some people love The Omen and some dont.
You'll find the latter to be young people .. who want to see young bodies in the roles, not people the age of their parents ...which is too bad.
The Omen is one of my favorite films - and i saw it when i was a kid ... but i enjoyed seeing adults being put through the paces .. it seemed far more believable to me than a bunch of sex starved teenage morons being sliced and diced in an abandoned mall.

So when i see a film like the 6th Sense, or The Others come along now, it gives me hope ..
I'm finding it tougher and tougher to enjoy films with shitty actors ..and most teens are just that ...

Not to diss the teens on the forum ... remember .. i felt the same way when i was (gasp) one of you ...

I never even began to look at it that way, you make a really good point. But if you think about it that's not really the whole story for example if you took the cast out of Halloween Resurrection and threw in Gene Hackman, Edward Norton,Johnny Depp and Clint Eastwood do you really think you'd like it? I'm not saying you're wrong I think you've got about 90% of the reason why horror films aren't as good these days.

42ndStreetFreak 02-05-2005 12:33 AM

A fun slice of macho mayhem in the form of "Coogan's Bluff".

Given YET ANOTHER career boost with "The Million Dollar Baby" it goes without saying now that, given his success in every decade, in many genres from acting to directing, a mammoth fan base, worldwide fame and a load of awards...he has to go down as perhaps THE most successful all rounder working in films today.
A real Cinematic icon, and to see him get rigfht back on top at the age he is now is justice indeed.

AUSTIN316426808 02-05-2005 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
A fun slice of macho mayhem in the form of "Coogan's Bluff".

Given YET ANOTHER career boost with "The Million Dollar Baby" it goes without saying now that, given his success in every decade, in many genres from acting to directing, a mammoth fan base, worldwide fame and a load of awards...he has to go down as perhaps THE most successful all rounder working in films today.
A real Cinematic icon, and to see him get rigfht back on top at the age he is now is justice indeed.

I don't think there's any perhaps he's not only the most successful he's the best.

Angra 02-05-2005 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I never even began to look at it that way, you make a really good point. But what if you think about it that's not really the whole story for example if you took the cast out of Halloween Resurrection and threw in Gene Hackman, Edward Norton,Johnny Depp and Clint Eastwood do you really think you'd like it? I'm not saying you're wrong I think you've got about 90% of the reason why horror films aren't as good these days.

Yes, i think I would like it more. Mostly because i think that the older and more experienced actors can add something to their caracters to make them more interesting, that the teen actors can`t. Then maybe you would care about them when they are running for their lifes.

Iīm pretty sure "secret window" with a teen actor instead of Johnny Depp would just be a plain thriller and probably suck pretty bad.


:cool:

AUSTIN316426808 02-05-2005 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
Yes, i think I would like it more. Mostly because i think that the older and more experienced actors can add something to their caracters to make them more interesting, that the teen actors can`t. Then maybe you would care about them when they are running for their lifes.

Iīm pretty sure "secret window" with a teen actor instead of Johnny Depp would just be a plain thriller and probably suck pretty bad.


:cool:

you could be right but I don't think it has much to do with age, you can act or you can't, Dakota Fanning is like 12 and she's a great actress.

AUSTIN316426808 02-05-2005 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
A fun slice of macho mayhem in the form of "Coogan's Bluff".

Given YET ANOTHER career boost with "The Million Dollar Baby" it goes without saying now that, given his success in every decade, in many genres from acting to directing, a mammoth fan base, worldwide fame and a load of awards...he has to go down as perhaps THE most successful all rounder working in films today.
A real Cinematic icon, and to see him get rigfht back on top at the age he is now is justice indeed.

are you a critic?

42ndStreetFreak 02-05-2005 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
are you a critic?
Er.....no not really. Only in a lonesome amatuer way with no income from it.
A bit like all of us probably!:D

ChEEbA 02-05-2005 02:10 AM

Taxi - The US remake...It was slightly funny...but overall, something the teens would probably be into, not much thought required. I didn't really like it, but didn't dislike it either.
I'd still like to see the original french version, I've heard it's infinitely better.

Appleseed - Again, I'm not sure if it was a remake of the 80's animated film of the same name, or a sequel to it...I didn't see the original. Anyways, definately some of the best animation I've EVER seen, very VERY nice style...but it wasn't really my kind of movie, didn't think much of the storyline, and found the non-action scenes rather boring, but hey, I'm sure someone might like it. I was happy to have been able to have checked out some truly awesome animation styles.

AUSTIN316426808 02-05-2005 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Er.....no not really. Only in a lonesome amatuer way with no income from it.
A bit like all of us probably!:D

I just thought you were because of the choice of words you use to describe/review films.

slasherman 02-05-2005 04:07 AM

"The Death Collecter"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072855/
A b-ganster film with Joe Pesci in a very early role....On my video cover he isnt even mentioned..:)
Not recomended if you dont like B-movies...

urgeok 02-05-2005 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I never even began to look at it that way, you make a really good point. But if you think about it that's not really the whole story for example if you took the cast out of Halloween Resurrection and threw in Gene Hackman, Edward Norton,Johnny Depp and Clint Eastwood do you really think you'd like it? I'm not saying you're wrong I think you've got about 90% of the reason why horror films aren't as good these days.

its not just the cast - its also the content ..
the adult oriented horror movies were more layered ..
most young people are content to see the school sluts killed and the goody goody plain janes stalked. Just a bunch of murders..

Thats not going to satisfy older folks ..

I'm a prime example because i though slasher films were the shit when i was a young guy .. but i've completely grown out of them now ..they just don't hold my interest.

42ndStreetFreak 02-05-2005 04:50 PM

An ex-Video Nasty blast from the past, "The Bogeyman"

massacre man 02-05-2005 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
An ex-Video Nasty blast from the past, "The Bogeyman"
you're too smart

Angra 02-06-2005 04:59 AM

"Are we there yet".


Horrible...:(

slasherman 02-06-2005 06:16 AM

"The Crimson River" a good french serial killer/horror movie
...gonna see the sequel today ..anyone seen it ?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337103/

ClassicHorror 02-06-2005 09:11 AM

The Streetfighters Last Revenge, and The Blind Swordsmans Revenge.

urgeok 02-06-2005 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by slasherman
"The Crimson River" a good french serial killer/horror movie
...gonna see the sequel today ..anyone seen it ?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337103/


with Jean Reno ..
I have it .. not bad.. doesnt make much sense but its watchable.
I didnt know there was a sequal .. whats it called ?

Angra 02-06-2005 12:43 PM

Just seen "Hide and seek".

It is actually very good until you see through the plot halfway into the movie. From there it goes downhill towards an ending that youīve seen a 1000 times before. And the plot dosnīt quite hold water, i think.

But itīs well acted.

IDrinkYourBlood 02-06-2005 12:46 PM

Watched the omen last night. And having a halloween marathon tonight.

majorbludd 02-06-2005 09:16 PM

just watched secret window on hbo....thought it was sorta lame.
turturro's the man...i thought it'd be tough to watch him in this role....but it turned out depp was tuffer to watch, especially during and after the twist..

ItsAlive75 02-06-2005 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by majorbludd
just watched secret window on hbo....thought it was sorta lame.
turturro's the man...i thought it'd be tough to watch him in this role....but it turned out depp was tuffer to watch, especially during and after the twist..

Yeah, the worst part was you could kinda see the ending coming about halfway through the flick.

I just got done watching Boogeyman...
youch

Amalthea 02-06-2005 11:52 PM

Mission Impossible 2, Pokemon The Movie, Disneys Hunchback Of Notre Dame and Kolya (Poland 1996).

slasherman 02-07-2005 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
with Jean Reno ..
I have it .. not bad.. doesnt make much sense but its watchable.
I didnt know there was a sequal .. whats it called ?

"The Crimson Rivers 2" and i think it was pretty good....some very good chasing scenes...and Christopher Lee doing a small part :)

AUSTIN316426808 02-07-2005 05:45 AM

.**Spoiler Warning**


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Originally posted by Angra
Just seen "Hide and seek".



It is actually very good until you see through the plot halfway into the movie. From there it goes downhill towards an ending that youīve seen a 1000 times before. And the plot dosnīt quite hold water, i think.

But itīs well acted.

I saw the commercial for this about three times before I realized that Deniro was Charlie so I didn't even bother to go see it

Vodstok 02-07-2005 05:53 AM

Thanks for the spoiler warning.....:rolleyes:

But, fi that is the case, then yes, we dont need another "OMG, HE's Tyler Durden!" ending....

AUSTIN316426808 02-07-2005 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Thanks for the spoiler warning.....:rolleyes:

But, fi that is the case, then yes, we dont need another "OMG, HE's Tyler Durden!" ending....

sorry.

Vodstok 02-07-2005 06:14 AM

Not a big deal. You probably saved me a rental that would have pissed me and my wife off.

Plus, im pissy from sleep deprevation.

42ndStreetFreak 02-07-2005 07:06 AM

Larry Cohen's extremely good, off the wall "God Told Me To"

The excellent John Wayne Western "The Cowboys". A film that manages the hard feat of being both sentimental AND funny as well as harsh and gritty.

Vodstok 02-07-2005 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
.**Spoiler Warning**




I saw the commercial for this about three times before I realized that Deniro was Charlie so I didn't even bother to go see it

LOL! thanks austin, that made me smile :)

AUSTIN316426808 02-07-2005 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
LOL! thanks austin, that made me smile :)
no problem;)

I didn't even think about the fact that I was giving away the movie when I was posting, my bad about that.

42ndStreetFreak 02-07-2005 03:28 PM

A great slice of 70's Grindhouse Martial Arts mayhem in the form of "Death Promise"
They don't make 'em like this anymore and the World is a poorer place for it!

IDrinkYourBlood 02-07-2005 03:34 PM

Halloween 2. It kicked ass.

kpropain 02-07-2005 04:00 PM

The Professional

Idle Hands

massacre man 02-07-2005 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
A great slice of 70's Grindhouse Martial Arts mayhem in the form of "Death Promise"
They don't make 'em like this anymore and the World is a poorer place for it!

i mean it you're too smart

majorbludd 02-07-2005 07:56 PM

i just watched a bad horror movie from the late 80's called retribution...don't know how this gem eluded me for so long..

AUSTIN316426808 02-08-2005 03:51 AM

Liar Liar

AUSTIN316426808 02-08-2005 03:55 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak


Given YET ANOTHER career boost with "The Million Dollar Baby" it

Have you seen Million Dollar Baby?

42ndStreetFreak 02-08-2005 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Have you seen Million Dollar Baby?
No. I' m Not sure if I fancy it. Probably be a rental.

AUSTIN316426808 02-08-2005 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
No. I' m Not sure if I fancy it. Probably be a rental.
I've seen Ray and I'm going to try and see the other four nominees over Thursday and Friday, I do that every year after they're announced so I was wondering if you've seen any of the other three.

42ndStreetFreak 02-08-2005 04:09 AM

Not seen any of them. I only pay out for cinema tickets if it's a film i really want to see or for a film that really needs to be seen at least once on the big screen.


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