the man?? or...

the woman?

hmmmmmmmmm :p :p

Not only that, but every time I go anywhere for the past two days I feel like I'm being followed. And yesterday I thought I heard a walkie talkie sound from the woods next to my girlfriends house and it said

"...him. Call the state department..."

That was all I heard then there was silence, but needless to say I was kinda paranoid driving home.

I hope they don't think I am some sort of terrorist just because I brought it up in a discussion forum, but the thought occured to me that after FreddyFan, they probably are keeping an eye on this site... :(

Maybe there is other reasons for the paranoia though. (See 'the great marijuana debate' thread for possible clues as to what those reasons might be. ;) )

Oh damn! Now The Man knows about that too! I'm a criminal! I'm fucked! Hahaha! Fuck them!

Are you into...um......"distribution"?:p

Nope. Just consumption.

Word...

actually you're right weed is illegal in Jamaica, I just named it to try and make a point...

guess I fucked that up LOL

Here's what I think needs to happen in America as far as drugs are concerned:

A) Be Legalised

B) Be taxed...Alcohol is taxed after all

C) Users should have to register, and be given cards identifying them as users. They should also have to be tested every so often for HIV (needles and such)

D) Quantity and Quality controlled. Dosage amounts for drugs such as herione and cocaine. Quality: NO having to worry about whether your drugs are laced with arsenic


F) Immediately release all those in prisons whose ONLY crime is possession. Frees up the prisons for REAL criminals (rapists, pedophiles,murderers, terrorists, etc.)

If the American Gov't did all these things:

A) Crime would drop, especially the homicide rate

B) Drug Dealers' markets would be virtually destroyed.

C) The taxes made from the selling of these 'now legal' drugs could be used to help those who want to get rid of their 'drug habit-addiction.

D) Prisons would be filled with REAL criminals

E) Cops would only arrest those who become a danger to others because of their 'drug' use. Not bothering those with possession.

that's all I got to say.

Love the argument Camper. I commend you on a job well done.

On another note, that's also how I like my steaks... god, I'm hungry.

Anyways, the American governments attitude towards drugs and their users is appalling. If they are going to use drugs, they are going to use them, no matter what the government does. They ONLY thing that they are doing is making these drugs more dangerous to use, as you said with the coke and the heroin. Drugs get "cut", which means that they are mixed, oftentimes with home cleaning solutions or over the counter pain killers, to create a higher volume of the drug to make more money. This is a VERY dangerous practice, and most of the time cut drugs are what kills people, not the drugs themselves, but what they are cut WITH, such as draino or amphetamines (diet pills).

They can't win the war on drugs. They are fighting themselves (Americans). They are busting their own families. They are sending teenagers to prison because they needed money, so they sell a little bit of crack on the street corner. It's BULLSHIT, and it needs to STOP.

Egekrusher, thanks.....

i like my steaks that way too.

unfortunately i don't think this is going to happen anytime soon. When will the dumbasses in Congress see that we're losing the war? Probably NEVER. The Drug War has been going on since the 60's. Hello it's been 40 years and the drugs are still here and being used, i don't think this is working!

My only real views on the weed thing is:

Before I go anywhere with this, I will point out that in pretty much any situation, moderation is a good idea, and if you can't moderate, you shouldn't touch ANYTHING.

Alcohol vs weed - alcohol brings out (by majority anyway) a much worse side of people that weed ever seems to, some drunks seem to wanna prove themselves through starting pointless fights and downright stupid behaviour, and are also more confident to drive while drunk, whereas stoners couldn't be fucked really even leaving the house, attempting to drive, or trying to prove how much balls they got...

I think if alcohol is legal, weed should also be...after all, we should at least get a choice of HOW we destroy ourselves, right?

Fuck'n A!! I hope when they find my dead body, i have a beer in one hand, and a big fattie in my other

WOOHOO!!! i've surpased my 500th post!!

WOOHOO!!! .... that is all.

Congrats on 500 Happy!


The last five or six posts have been very well thought, well structured arguements. I applaud those responsible.

















"Legalize the weed and I'll say 'Thank Heavens!'" - Beastie Boys

Is it just me, or is this place starting to turn more into a melding thought of bright individuals who are articulate, well spoken and can hold a conversation without yelling?

What really sucks is that the average prison sentence for weed is approx. 10 years. murder is only 6.

EXACTLY! It's this kind of sentencing and judicial system that is making our prisons overflow. We don't even have room for the murderers now.

legalize it then tax the hell out of it cause the stupid bastards that do it aint stopping any time soon so we might as well make a profit

Love the new location Ege.

Thanks. Took me a bit to come up with that one. I was in a particularly twisted, evil and morbid mood when I came up with that one.

You didnt get it from the Nine inch nails song?:confused:

Straight people don't know what you'll about it, they'll put you down and shut you out. You gave to me a new belief and the whole will love you sweat leaf. Try it out!

Marijuana is a great drug IMO. So many bands have written awesome songs while on this drug. Cypess Hill, Sabbath, Sacred Reich, Kotton Mouth Kings, Bongzilla, and slew of other bands.

It should be legalized IMO. Stop busting people for using herb.
Its a waste of time and money. Alcohol and cigarettes cause more harm, yet they are legal.

Let people do what they want IMO. If they fuck up their lives on drugs, then its their fault. We all have choices, I don't want anyone telling me what I can do and cannot.

Fuck all those hyprocrites that used pot and now are saying that it is bad. If you use pot in a responsible manner, nothing bad will happen to you. You may get cancer, but is that really proven.

All I'm saying is, have a smoke or two, but be responsible.
Its a damn shame that so many people are busted for weed.
I know that there are individuals that don't use this drug in a responsible manner, but should we all be punished IMO. Its like alcohol, some people become insane while others become happy go lucky.


To all those that oppose, shut up and smoke a bowl. :)

The worst thing that Marijuana can do is make you lazy and cause depression. Yes, it CAN do this by suppressing the neural pathways for Serotonin, the brains "natural high" drug that is used to give you a feeling of euphoria and well being when you achieve something good. This is your reward drug. But, if that pathway is blocked, you can crash pretty badly.

Now, Marijuana does not CAUSE this, but it can make an already bad situation much worse.

Marijauna effects eveyone differently. Some people can handle it, while others can't. Alcohol can have the same reaction.
Marijuana is not for everyone, but those who use it in a resonsible manner should be thrown in jail for using IMO.

True, the decision should be made on the basis of how it effects you personally, in term of immediate, and after effects.

This is the reason I don't drink much; If I wanna get fucked up, I'll go with weed the majority of the time, simply because alcohol turns me into the biggest asshole on the face of the planet, I usually hurt people, and have brought legal troubles down on me under THAT influence way too many times.
I'd have made the same decision about weed should the effects have been anywhere near as bad.

Take it from me. Brain Cells come regenerate. I think me and Singy might have a debate on this one but I smoked pot ALL THE DAMN TIME for about a year or two. And believe me i was failing school harcore. But this year i stopped and passed all my classes with C or above. The total year i think i got 7 A's maybe 8. And passed with a 3.11 GPA. And to me i was more energetic on pot. Maybe it was because i used to always be looking for pot. But i dont know. Im done with that shit now. I got my prioties down pact!

Completely agree....

If they are using it responsibly, in their own home, and hurting no one but themselves, and their children aren't around, why? why should we jail them?

Damn straight! If i'm smoking it in the privacy of my own home, the cops IMO have no right to arrest me for possession. If anything they should be arrested for unlawful search and seizure.

Actually that reminds me...

One of my friends got pulled over by the cops, once the cop approached his car, he was asked if they could search his car. (My friend is black by the way...Racial Profiling sucks!) He told them no. They spent the next three hours searching his car and didn't find SHIT!!! After they told him he was free to go...

he said... Thanks for wasting my fucking time, why don't you go find some real criminals!

COPS are PIGS!!

Thats fucking bullshit! me and my friends got pulled over the other day because we were wearing all black...

Cop - "Is it common for you guys to wear all black at the same time?"
Everyone else is grim and respectfull but i just bust out laughing, i couldnt help it...
Cop - "is there something funny about this"
me - "oh, well, we wear black pretty often yes"
Cop - "we've had some breakins and gang activity around here, you guys wouldn't know anything about that would you"
As he searches my car with his flashlight, (illegaly technically)
Me - *giggling* " uh.....NO, we're in a BAND!"

it was pretty crazy, im always the one that ends up talking to the cops, i dont know why....but ya, complete bullshit...

yeah I got pulled over about a year ago, in my Dodge Neon (have a Honda CRV now). I got a ticket for speeding (which I was guilty of...was going 81 in a 65mph zone). As I was about to drive off, he asked if he could search my car. I should have said no, but I was on my way to a job interview and I didn't want to be late, as I was already worried that I would be. So anyway he searches my car and as he's doing this, he starts a casual conversation with me, he actually asks me what I do for a living? HEY ASSHOLE! You're FUCKING searching my car, when I know you're not gonna find SHIT! I don't wanna talk to you about what I do for a living...go arrest some real criminal!