I do hear what your saying Extr3mist don't get me wrong I am tired of all the same lame attemps at making a truly horrifying movie.....The Guinea Pigs just truly do nother for me is all and I am "Not" a Outraged Christian trust me If I was Id be one of the worst Christians ever lol! I due own many extreme cinema flicks these ones however don't rank high on my list of faves!

Proteus

... For me a film has little value if it does not entertain, thus the "Point" for me is entertainment.

Yes extreme faked gore is an art form in a way, reel human or animal death defeats the point of the "Magic" of film, but for me I want it within a package, one of the ingredients of the movie...

Chocolate needs sugar, to taste good, but sugar on its own without the other ingredients quickly becomes sickening!

To shock or offend is easy, to do these while entertaining, that’s the real art!

GUINEA PIG seems more of an experience than entertainment - in the sense that thoroughly downbeat and uncompromising films like COMBAT SHOCK, FORCED ENTRY & ALL NIGHT LONG are endured through morbid curiousity rather than the usual rollercoaster ride of emotions (which surely must include elements of fun and redemption to entertain?) we would normally expect from a film.

Granted, these movies have a beginning, middle & end and are "dramas" with an unfolding story... but so too are the GP titles under discussion - their stories are just simpler and more abrupt, with utterly no regard for audience expectation.

This in itself means these oft-slagged creations are important films - I think with some it is the blatant audacity of the subject matter combined with the brutal gore effects that breeds contempt... the point of them is just what you see and hear, the director is not trying to offload any morals or fix any comfortable balance whatsoever.

Perversely, these long posts on the subject are making the PIGs sound rather deep and meaningful... they're not, but they are very interesting - even if for only viewing once and in a "car-crash" state of curiosity.

I must say Say thanks to you Extr3mist for not getting overly upset and acutally talking about this subjects without name calling and the ilk good to see some people can actually discuss if not debate peacefully I truly hope I didn't offend you in anyway If so sorry!

I do by the way Rather enjoy Combat Shock its a damn gritty depressing flick done on a super low budget but used effectively sad to actually see Troma is actually the vendor for it lol

And as far as All night long goes own the 3 liked the first and the 3rd was a little much and kinda made me feel dirty lol

Proteus

i think we are all in agreement here.

LOL

... and yes I agree Zwoti

... I only saw the first 1 or 2 of this series and that was enough for me ... but each to their own, as they say!
:cool:

Guinea pig-realistic and disgusting series from Japan
 

What do u think abouth series called "Guinea pig"? It's 6 parts

-Devils experiment
-Flowers of flesh and blood
-He never dies
-Mermaid in manhole
-Android in NotreDamme
-Devil Woman doctor

1 Devils experiment:

Movie has no plot. It only shows 3 man torturing a woman so we can see: Beating, Kicking etc. etc.

2 FOF&B

Some guy in samurai suit, kiddnap girl, next he make apllicate uncontious mediciene (that she don't feel pain) and then he cut her limbs off by swors, knife saw etc. ( it's very sic and disgusting movie )

4 Mermaid In Manhole

Art teacher who lost his wife is going to manhole, there he meet mermaid who was seen by him a long time ago. Girl is very sick so painter take her to his flat and start to "take care about her"....

I haven't seen parts 3,5,6 so i won't tell u anything more. Also i send screenshots from movies

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Re: Guinea pig-realistic and disgusting series from Japan
 

sounds like some great entertainment ...:rolleyes:

as much entertainment as fried guinea.

for gore hounds only

I'm all for gore, but those just seam pretty pointless.

oh, i'm sure someone will pop in here to justify this shit by explaining the hard hitting social relevance of watching women be maimed and tortured.

I saw one a few years ago, "Mermaid in a Manhole." Piece-o'-crap. I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can say this stuff looks realistic. The "SFX" in this movie look like the SFX in the original Evil Dead. Which was good for it's time and still is in a way but when you are selling something on the preconception of it being "real" you have to do much better IMO.

Still, I can understand their appeal. It's like "Oh God you have to see THIS!" but after the initial viewing there really isn't any reason to watch it again. I don't know......I just wasn't impressed.

I must admit, I am a gore hound, but I dont enjoy watching poeple get tortured for no reason. thats just kinda sick.

I bet this guy must have been in seriously pain while eating his cock and balls with fries.:D

I still masturbate to The Flower, The Flesh & The Blood on occasion, if ER isn't on.

The Guinea Pigs are a tour-de-force: perfect for narking snotty liberals, they get right up the nose of those seeking logical meaning and decency from all films.

Unabridged Agony (or Devil's Experiment) has chased many a lightweight viewer out of my luxury penthouse, and I must admit I find that hilarious.

you spend more time masterbating than most people spend awake !!! Must have a right arm like a marble pillar !

Come to think of it, maybe it wasn't what was on the telly that chased them out then - but maybe my inappropriately timed acts of self-abuse to it?

you'd have to have some pretty tolerant friends ... i hope you at least offer them some raincoats

(and scotchguard your sofa !)

I jerked off to the first volume

WTF>>!!!

the first volume of guinea pig. Devils Project or something to that effect. Hottest thing EVER!

Er, dude I was only kidding...

Gore wankers unite!

Same here. It doesn't sound good at all, i remember hearing parts about when i was in Japan....just wrong.

Fucking lightweight.

Ugh ugh ugh!

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guinea pig series?
 

Has anyone seen the "guinea pig" series of "fake snuff" by Satoru Ogura? If so what did you think of them? I am disgusted by what I have read about them and from small clips I've seen, but of course my macabre curiosity is getting the best of me. I want to see them but I am afraid I will be too grossed out lol. The one I am referrig too most is the "flower of flesh and blood."

I love the collection - Although I was expectiong a bit more from it in general, Flower of Flesh and Blood is quality. Not the sorta thing you'd show your nan on a sunday afternoon.

He never dies is cool too. That crazy crazy guy, he just never dies!

I love the Japanese extreme films but frankly I found most of them too reliant on cheap sex shots, soft porn content. Shame because if you go for shock value, eating humans should really be enough.

Human Pork Chop was a good example.

Eating humans is never, ever enough.

peopllllllllllllle, that eat peopllllllllle,
are the hungriest peoplllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllle,
in the world ....

If I am honest tho, and I generally am, the thought of eating human flesh is kind of erotic, like sharing the ultimate gift.

Maybe just me, maybe just curiosity but think about it... Meat = Food. *no offense to vegetarians*