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I'm convinced of mind reading. Subconscious to subconscious reading can't be much different. That's the most likely.

And what's your take on precognition? Not best guessing, extrapolating into the future based on past/current events. Rather: An ability to see future events.

You're really going to ask about this? ::wink:: Well, that's a difficult one.

First off, there's a difference between knowing "the actual future" (if that were to exist) and 'sensing coming events' or being told of scheduled events.

Personally, I don't believe there is an unchangeable future... neither in the capital 'D' Determinism sense, nor the 'has already happened' sense, nor the 'can travel to a real existing future or past' sense. I believe there is only now. (Although I've had some experiences that could be construed to contradict that.)

Science Research
Having said that, scientific studies have demonstrated "Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli". Stuff like, subjects are shown 'random' images that evoke physiological responses, that is: like horrific or sexual images that cause measurable changes in the body. Subjects have demonstrated physiological changes (sexual response) -- matching the stimuli immediately coming (sexual image), before that stimuli (sexual image) was viewed. Many different types of studies, not just the one I'm describing, displaying results well beyond chance. (current source http://www.zmescience.com/research/s...inds-04143122/)

To anyone interested, I recommend the book "Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking", which is an easy-to-read, entertaining book (written by a writer, not researcher) describing many of the studies, intuition, & practical & interesting subjects related to it.

From what I read of the researchers, it's generally agreed, that there's some physical stimuli being experienced to cause the knowledge, but the nature of the stimuli & perception isn't understood. I think that's certainly in the big subconscious realm.

Anyway, there's people who 'predict', or is it sense info, correctly with consistency in regards to sports, economic markets, award & election contests, by apparently using means beyond "obvious practical concrete research". But again, that suggests reading current info, not 'future' info.

Prophesy
Prophesy is a different animal. Foretelling of future events that one learns from a vision/dream -- like a visitation from angelic/spirit/spacealien conversation, etc, that reveals an event will take place. You have Nostradamus, Daniel, etc.

Again, with these visions, the fact that the event then occurs doesn't mean 'the event already existed' or was unchangeable.

In the area of weather & famine, weather is likely extremely predictable (& unchangeable by 'indigenous' human/animal activity). Sensing future climactic events is extraordinarily impressive, but still makes logical sense.

In other predicted events, such as wars, deaths, change in regimes, if you take the Bible as an example, if God is telling a prophet what's going to happen, (which he is told to tell the people, so when it then happens, people know God did it and why he did it). I think one can naturally assume God has to power to make these things happen through a voluminous number of means, over a great period of time; so that it's silly to ascribe the prophecy to 'seeing the actual future', as opposed to seeing or hearing a representation of what has been 'scheduled'.

Relating to current, or non-God-prophets, such as a psychic/fortuneteller making event predictions... a number of beings can find out about events that have been scheduled by powerful forces, and then tell others about it, these revelations can seem Deterministic when they are simply controlled in the present.

Then of course, there's the scientifically well demonstrated Power Of Suggestion -- such as the placebo effect. Many 'predicted events' are heavily influenced by this... subconscious & foolish 'self-fulfilling prophesy' actions people do; but everybody should already know that.

> Personally, I don't believe there is an unchangeable future... neither in the capital 'D' Determinism sense, nor the 'has already happened' sense, nor the 'can travel to a real existing future or past' sense. I believe there is only now. (Although I've had some experiences that could be construed to contradict that.)

So no block universe guy you, eh? If there were a block universe, some people might have the ability to move their consciousness to different times, like moving a play cursor through an audio file.

> Relating to current, or non-God-prophets, such as a psychic/fortuneteller making event predictions... a number of beings can find out about events that have been scheduled by powerful forces, and then tell others about it, these revelations can seem Deterministic when they are simply controlled in the present.

In other words, some people are just good predictors, extrapolators. Futurists make careers on this.

I don't have a theory for how it works – beyond some kind of wave transmission – but I have this gut feeling that it is possible to sense a future event.

Nope, not a Block Universe guy (Block Universe/Eternalism = all points in time are equally 'real', as opposed to the Presentist idea that only the present is real). Some people might have the ability to move their consciousness through different times even if there wasn't a Block Universe -- because there's history books, pictures, home videos, and maybe lots of other types of records we don't realize exist (like the proposed Akashic Records). People who practice Remote Viewing (pick your term) purport their consciousness perusing over the past.

Sure, like when someone's hair stands-on-end just before a lighting strike. Like foreseeing a birth when you see a woman looking pregnant. We sense processes. I bet there's a lot of processes going on that our conscious minds don't recognize; things are extremely interrelated. Doesn't mean time 'exists'.

I think time is an abstract way to describe motion, particularly (apparent) constant motion. It's an abstract 'dimension', necessary for making dates, plans & predictions.

I believe I've come across ghosts a few times. I posted about it here some time ago.

Would love to read those experiences. This is where we need V.

https://www.youtube.com/user/grav3yardgirl

This youtuber used to post a lot of paranormal videos.

If you want to watch any of them, you have to go WAY back because she doesn't do any of those kinds of videos anymore. She had a bad experience in someone's house with a ghost box.

What, over the ghost box (modified radio) did a ghost call her a pretentious Polly? Ghosts can be so cruel, especially of the safety of the airwaves.

Anyone know how the ghost box works?

What happened to V?

No, I don't remember what exactly happened to her.

If I remember correctly, you fix a radio to make it play all frequencies rather than just one.

I've never used one, but I read the ghost box moves through the AM or FM band, and picks up bits and pieces from each station, like moving an old fashion radio knob. I'm curious how the radios 'decide' where to go on the band & when.

If time doesn't exist, where does that leave causality? An effect always happens after its cause, right? And before/after requires time.

When I say time doesn't exist, I mean it has no substance, no energy, no conscience, no matter, no position in space/existence. It exists as a concept, like the number one, or the concept of 'nothing', etc.

Matter and energy move: marble 1 hits marble 2; there's causality, and we have the concept of 'before and after', but it's just a mental construct.

Time is the measurement of matter moving at a constant rate, such as the seconds-arm of a watch. The only way we keep track of duration is with our brains memory (additional dendrite connections & other organizations), writing it down, or since the 1800's photos, records, tapes, computers etc. Neurons, paper & ink, photos, computer code exists, but time still does not.

Video taping a watch, or marble 1 hitting marble 2, does this create some sort of 'time' matter or energy separate from the recording? Of course not.

You can have a dream of Harvey a talking rabbit, but that doesn't mean Harvey really exists, at least not by empirical science, nor valid reasoning logic.

Where the hell did this come from?

I have a little shortwave radio and sometimes I will listen to the white noise. You can hear weird beeps that are probably military but sound extraterrestrial and distorted voices that sound otherworldly which could be anything, from hunters to preachers.

And ya gotta love the numbers stations, henna?

By that reasoning, consciousness doesn't exist. Yet it is the only thing we ever directly experience.

Wow, this is deep.

Are you guys smoking weed? ::big grin::

I'm curious. What do you mean by "henna"? ::confused::

There is no past, present, or future. Words to tell my bill collected. ::devil::

Not at the moment ... ::wink::

I learned it growing up in PA. "Henna?" means something like: "Right?"

You just broadened my world a little! ::cool::

Remember, in my first sentence I wrote,

Time has no consciousness. You can't assign time that characteristic (or should I say, you can't lump those two together like that). I think we can prove consciousness exists with logical arguments &/or the empirical method. But we're not considering if consciousness exists. Let's keep this to time. Maybe you can rephrase your question/argument/proposition.

It has often started that way, hasn't it?

Oooh I just remembered another very strange experience I had way back when I lived in Germany in the 70s/80s. I had just seen The Last Wave ... which left me in a kind of daze ... and outside the theater, I saw wet shoeprints that led to a spot in the middle of the sidewalk ... and then stopped, mid-stride so to speak, with no sign of turning around. It was a dry night, no rain. This was particularly spooky after seeing the movie (as anyone who knows it will understand). I never came up with a rational explanation. :-)

The closest thing I have to anything supernatural is seeing stuff in my dreams and see the things I saw in my dreams in real life. What we call predictions.

Sounds like a good one for Sherlock Holmes.

There's certainly plenty of simple non-supernatural possibilities. They all would probably seem unlikely, but no more unlikely than what you saw.

Your 1st clue is the dry night. Second is wet shoe tracks that immediately stopped. Without a lot of dripping, or other wet spots, the water was likely isolated to the shoes. So, someone may have stepped in a pool of water, or a deep puddle you hadn't noticed.

One rational explanation is the person walking in wet shoes stopped, removed the wet shoes & put them in a bag, and then continued to walk with dry feet or other foot attire. They may have been met by a friend who gave them dry sandals/shoes. They sat on their butt, and switched footware, or had good balance, causing no wet smudges. Or someone simply gave them a towel to dry their feet, & they walked away with dry bare feet. Sounds a simple & rational explanation, far less unusual than what you saw. A less likely option is someone carried them at that point.

I know that movie "Last Wave". Maybe it was some kind of publicity stunt! ::wink::

I was wondering the same thing. Not so much publicity (it was a modest theater with a modest budget, and Germany is not as fond of publicity stunts as America is), but some person who wanted to spook someone who had just seen the movie. And maybe that's what happened ... but it seems like a lot of effort for a small payoff ... and one that wouldn't have occurred if I hadn't paid attention to what I saw.

The returns on a publicity stunt like that would evaporate pretty quickly. ::big grin::

Rack em! ;-)

I remember one time I jinxed a friend of mine quite by accident. I was drawing a thank you card for my boss because he gave me my first bee hive, now in the picture there were some beekeepers robbing hives of honey. One of the beekeepers is being stung in the bum (for he was wearing cargo shorts) by a bee. Well I went on trip with my boss and my friend, we were going into the mountains to rob some honey from his hives. I noticed that my friend was wearing cargo shorts. When we started robbing a hive one flew up my friends shorts and stung him right smack in the bum exactly like the picture.