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neverending 10-18-2014 09:47 PM

What most impressed me about the first episode was the sense of time and place. The production staff has done a marvelous job of recreating the past. It's set a mere four years before I was born, but every detail seems spot on - the look of buildings that were made to last, the clothing styles, and everything else.

Kathy Bates is already my favorite character. Her accent did throw me off, because it didn't come out till she was on stage, but I think they might be hinting at further developments to her character. There seems to be some ambiguity about the sexuality of her character and I hope they explore that further.

Jessica Lange is channeling Greta Garbo, plain and simple. I half expected to hear her say "I vant to be alone..." at some point. The double character is a great mystery to keep us all interested. Like others, even though I really loved the musical number, it did bother me that it was a David Bowie. It broke the illusion of the past they had so painstakingly built up- but I guess throwing those twists in is what this show is all about.

There was also some overly obvious writing that bothered me- the scene between Bates and Lange toward the end explained far too much about Lange's character. It didn't need to be said so blatantly.

I give it a 90 out of 100.

Elvis_Christ 10-20-2014 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Art School Dropout (Post 980971)
The musical scene was kind of funny despite one of my biggest pet peeves with period pieces being the use of music that doesn't belong in the time period.

Yeah I'm finding it harder and harder to ignore. There's plenty of great songs from the era they could've used instead. As neverending said it's really sloppy considering they've gone out of their way to recreate the era with the rest of the show. I don't think it's a twist it's more the producers/network playing it safe with well known contemporary songs pandering to modern/younger audiences. It's flaw that really stops the show from being a truly great piece of television like Canivale.

Aside from this I think this is a great season and I'm especially enjoying the clown storyline. The comradery between the freaks is a nice touch bringing some raw emotion (the final act of episode 2) that the show hasn't really touched on before. Perhaps taking a cue from The Walking Dead?

abcodi 10-20-2014 09:54 PM

is this tv series good? how many recommend i watch this?

hammerfan 10-21-2014 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by abcodi (Post 981295)
is this tv series good? how many recommend i watch this?

Here's your first recommendation. ::wink::

My favorite season is #2. Compared to seasons 1 and 2, 3 is pretty tame. So far, I'm enjoying season 4, they've gotten back to the scary/creepy/shocking scenes.

ChronoGrl 10-22-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 981189)
There was also some overly obvious writing that bothered me- the scene between Bates and Lange toward the end explained far too much about Lange's character. It didn't need to be said so blatantly.

Yeah, that bothered me too - I thought that it was really out of place (especially since the show is typically so good at "showing" instead of "telling").


In terms of last week's episode, "Massacres and Matinees," I was very disappointed, which had me concerned - I think that the show was struggling to find a consistent tone and the plot points seemed random and scattered (but not in a good way)...
  • The Strong Man and Hermaphrodite - I feel as though their entrance should have had more of an impact but it really did not for me.
  • Freaks going to the diner - Not really sure what the point of that scene was - Show the audience that townies look down on them? We know that already. Create tension between Lobster Boy and the Strong Man?
  • Twisty the Clown and the Man Child - I actually liked this storyline but ultimately when the Man Child captures Twisty's captive, I found that to be predictable based on what we had seen/heard earlier in the episode; that could have been done better.
  • Fiona Apple - Really? I liked David Bowie but I do not like this trend. I also found that scene to be oddly and unbelievably frenetic, with the men suddenly rushing the stage...
  • And then dovetailing in Mars' plot to make the girls' jealous if each other...

Oh boy. I think there was too much going on... There are too many characters and I don't think I have a handle or care about any of them yet, and that's a problem. It's the problem I had with last season and I hope it doesn't happen again.

Rawhead Rex 10-23-2014 06:25 AM

I'm not sure why people watch a show and critique the hell out of it...
Just don't watch it if it bothers you. You'll save yourself headaches.

I LOVE this show...loved every season and love this current one.
It's rolling along nicely, building a lot of plots here and there that will all come tangling together rather violently, I'm thinking.

Guesses...possible spoilers...

The Strong Man will suddenly be able to get it up again, but it won't be for his hermaphrodite, 3 breasted wife, it'll be for young, beautiful Emma Roberts...
AND THIS will cause a lot of trouble!

Dandy can't bring himself to kill his maid, but I don't think he's too far away from begging his new buddy, Twisty, to do it...and he will!

ChronoGrl 10-23-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawhead Rex (Post 981392)
I'm not sure why people watch a show and critique the hell out of it...
Just don't watch it if it bothers you. You'll save yourself headaches.

I absolutely love the series, seasons 1 & 2 potentially being two of my favorite seasons of TV ever. When I love a show, I gush about what's great about it (maybe you missed my post re the first episode?) and pick apart what's not because I want every episode to blow me away, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

Don't read my critiques about the series if they bother you. You'll save yourself headaches.

Monkey Astronaut 10-24-2014 02:00 AM

Episode 3 "Edward Mordrake (Part 1)" Nice to see Wes Bentley show up. Patti LaBelle doing a Woody Woodpecker impression made me laugh. Starting to get sick of these musical numbers.

ChronoGrl 10-24-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Art School Dropout (Post 981419)
Episode 3 "Edward Mordrake (Part 1)" Nice to see Wes Bentley show up. Patti LaBelle doing a Woody Woodpecker impression made me laugh. Starting to get sick of these musical numbers.

Succinct and pretty much how I felt about it. The musical number seemed really forced and shoehorned in, though I really loved the twins' shared dream.

Really appreciated the homage to Halloween with the clown costume and killer POV moment with Pattie LaBelle. Loved it.

Manimal 10-24-2014 07:53 PM

I like Wes Bentley and I like how he's been cast for the show. I personally love the musical numbers. It gives the "Freak Show" a stage-performance aspect, which I think is important to highlight how challenging that lifestyle must be. Dandy is still growing on me and quickly becoming one of my favourite characters. As soon as he gets up the nerve to kill someone, I think he will just go on a rampage from there and it will be glorious. Who do you think Mordrake will add to his collection?

Monkey Astronaut 10-29-2014 09:36 PM

SPOILERS

Episode 4 "Edward Mordrake (Part 2) The special effects makeup for under Twisty the Clown's mask is one of the most gruesome the show has done. Dandy putting on Twisty mask is the first thing he's done that wasn't annoying. The scene with the town people at the end was pretty good. What little there was of Patti LaBelle was good, sad that her character was killed off but we all saw it coming.

ferretchucker 11-05-2014 12:54 PM

I've really enjoyed this season so far, despite a few nitpicks. I think many of the characters are strong, although they're showing development perhaps a LITTLE too quickly at times e.g. Dot's wild ego.

I particularly enjoyed this last two parter - even the last Lana song, I thought that scene offered a very spooky introduction for Wes Bentley (although his British accent is rather dreadful). I don't know, I really don't mind anachronistic music when it's used well, and I think this world is JUST far enough off center for it to be fine with me.

[MILD TWISTY SPOILERS]
As for Twisty, what a backstory! I've rewatched that scene a few times, their ability to turn fear and wonder into pity is excellent, really impressive. Although I worry that with him gone and Dandy taking the reigns, they've one of the show's best assets - in the past, the antagonists have always been somewhat likeable/morally ambiguous. Jude was a bitch but became a victim and always had her good side (standing up to Arden etc.), Fiona was vein but her glamour made her so fun, Twisty was terrifying but in an exciting way. Dandy's just a bit of a creepy brat. But I'll wait until further episodes to make full judgement.

Monkey Astronaut 11-06-2014 12:26 PM

Nice to see Matt Bomer show up.

Manimal 11-07-2014 04:52 AM

Episode 5 is one of my favourites so far. I just love Dandy and he's definitely becoming the twisted character I hoped he would :D I kinda miss Zachary Quinto though..

hammerfan 11-07-2014 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Manimal (Post 982035)
Episode 5 is one of my favourites so far. I just love Dandy and he's definitely becoming the twisted character I hoped he would :D I kinda miss Zachary Quinto though..

Yes! He was so good in season 2!

ferretchucker 11-07-2014 07:44 AM

Really enjoyed Pink Cupcakes and how it delved into the wants and desires of each character. Was it a bit heavy handed? Yes. BUT nothing worse than not knowing your characters' motivations.

Monkey Astronaut 11-19-2014 08:08 PM

Episode 7 "Test of Strength"

SPOILERS

While the Nirvana cover was decent the use of '90s music in a '50s period piece is annoying. Satisfying seeing Dell get his ass handed to him. Penny's dad is messed up.


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