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MichaelMyers 08-19-2012 06:24 PM

Lep in Space > Leprechaun

Troll 2 > Troll

Gar19rett 08-25-2012 02:19 PM

hhahaha troll 2 epic...what about Scream 2? Thought that one was a really good sequel

The Villain 08-26-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gar19rett (Post 932702)
hhahaha troll 2 epic...what about Scream 2? Thought that one was a really good sequel

I thought Scream 2 was a good sequel but not as good as the first

Michael-Myers 08-28-2012 04:34 PM

I'd have to go with Dawn of the Dead, aliens, and Devils Rejects.

Scream 2 was good but original still my favorite from that series. Although its funny watching that movie now and asking the boyfriend why he owns a cell phone... How times have changed since 96?

The Villain 08-28-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael-Myers (Post 932945)
I'd have to go with Dawn of the Dead, aliens, and Devils Rejects.

Scream 2 was good but original still my favorite from that series. Although its funny watching that movie now and asking the boyfriend why he owns a cell phone... How times have changed since 96?

Ill agree with you on Rejects but NOTLD is my favorite zombie movie and Alien is much better then Aliens IMO. Alien was more a horror film while I felt Aliens ventured too far into action plus I really liked how in Alien they were just being hunted by one and it was more the fear of the unknown. Plus I felt the setup was better.

ferretchucker 08-29-2012 03:18 PM

I rarely prefer sequels to the original, but I occasionally find myself enjoying them as much - often because they tried something different whilst also retaining links to the original. I think this is because these sorts of sequels feel more like a continuation of the story rather than a rehashing in a different location. For example;

Aliens - rather than simply having another crew come across another Alien in a similar ship, they took the terrifying creatures and moved them from a claustrophobic-horror setting and put them in a war film. This also worked in terms of Ripley's character development - the horrors she faced hardened her and essentially turned her from a victim to a soldier.

T2: Judgement Day - Yes, the essential theme of a cat and mouse chase is there, except (much like Ripley) the Mouse (Sarah Connor) has been hardened by the events of the original.

I guess for me it comes down to consequences. So many sequels - particularly horror sequels - ignore consequences. The survivor from the first film is gone and the antagonist now faces a similar set of potential bodies. Back to square one, "Here's the same film with a bigger body count - can I have some money now?" A true sequel is connected by more than just a single character who serves the same purpose (i.e. iconic masked killer).

Michael-Myers 08-30-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 932949)
Ill agree with you on Rejects but NOTLD is my favorite zombie movie and Alien is much better then Aliens IMO. Alien was more a horror film while I felt Aliens ventured too far into action plus I really liked how in Alien they were just being hunted by one and it was more the fear of the unknown. Plus I felt the setup was better.


I agree that Alien was much more suspenseful however I liked the characters in Aliens much more.

Boddicker 08-30-2012 05:38 PM

Phantasm 2
Evil Dead 2
Aliens

I also agree that most of the F13 sequels are better than the part 1. I can't agree that Bride of Reanimator or Beyond Reanimator are better that original though. Though I consider the Reanimator trilogy the the best trilogy in horror in overall quality.

MichaelMyers 08-30-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Boddicker (Post 933104)
Phantasm 2
I also agree that most of the F13 sequels are better than the part 1. I can't agree that Bride of Reanimator or Beyond Reanimator are better that original though. Though I consider the Reanimator trilogy the the best trilogy in horror in overall quality.

Well I have a challenge for you. What about Romero's Dead trilogy.

Michael-Myers 08-30-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Boddicker (Post 933104)
Phantasm 2
Evil Dead 2
Aliens

I also agree that most of the F13 sequels are better than the part 1. I can't agree that Bride of Reanimator or Beyond Reanimator are better that original though. Though I consider the Reanimator trilogy the the best trilogy in horror in overall quality.

I somehow haven't seen phantasm 2 yet. Better than the original huh?

Jigsaw Killer 09-05-2012 09:45 PM

IMO Phantasm II is better than the (already excellent to begin with) original and the best of the series, though all four are great. A rare series where every entry is top-notch.

Michael-Myers 09-06-2012 05:20 PM

Definitely need to watch 2-4 then. I loved the first one.

Jigsaw Killer 09-06-2012 06:10 PM

You'd probably like the sequels if you liked the original, as the sequels all had the same writer and director onboard. And if you're a fan of Aliens you also might like Phantasm II, as the two are very similar with how they compare to the originals.

Michael-Myers 09-07-2012 11:27 PM

Comparing phantasm II to aliens, now I'm super excited. So glad Halloween season is upon us now...

Jigsaw Killer 09-26-2012 12:51 AM

Did you finally see Phantasm II?

Jigsaw Killer 10-20-2012 11:56 PM

This is no doubt a controversial choice, but one sequel I preferred to the original was Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III. I found it more entertaining and it had a good balance of being a more fun traditional Horror movie while still having some pretty disturbing and mean-spirited moments in it. While I acknowledge the original's influence and impact on the genre and can admit objectively it's a better movie, I find TCM3 more entertaining.

metternich1815 06-20-2013 09:48 PM

Predator 2 and A New Nightmare are two I can think of off the top of my head. Both of these series's original films were really good, but I thought the films mentioned were better than their originals. Honestly, I also liked Friday the 13th Parts III, VI, and VII were better than the original, even though the original was still good. It's just I prefer the ones with Jason (with his hockey mask) better.

Ferox13 06-21-2013 05:05 AM

The Sub-Species sequels are better than the original.

Jigsaw Killer 06-22-2013 06:12 PM

It's been forever since I watched the Subspecies films, but I think I might've liked the second better than the first.

TokyoTenshi 06-22-2013 10:24 PM

^ I agree. I find Bloodstone: Subspecies II to be better than the first.

I think I find Poltergeist II better than the first, maybe because I find Reverend Kane so creepy.

Jigsaw Killer 06-22-2013 10:52 PM

I like Poltergeist II better also, just by a little though. Mainly because Reverend Kane is so eerie.

TokyoTenshi 06-23-2013 03:33 AM

Reverend Kane is awesome, too bad he didn't live up to his awesomeness in the 3rd one.

Jigsaw Killer 06-24-2013 09:43 AM

He was recasted in the third since Julian Beck sadly died during the production of the second one. You could tell the replacement just didn't have the same magic.

sleepaway 06-24-2013 10:03 AM

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I LOVE that film and completely understand why you would say it is better than the original. I don't agree for the only reason that I think I've watched the original the most times. Though I saw Part 3 first so it will always have a special place in my heart.

Part 4 is my favourite - not saying it's the best - just my favourite!

Amityville 2 is way better than 1, also agree with Phantasm 2.

SuperFreddy 06-26-2013 04:36 AM

Definitely Evil Dead 2. This sequel is so bad in terms of plot, acting and humour that it's actually good :). Sam Rami said one time that ED2 was the movie that he'd like to make from the beginning.

And of course there's the nostalgia factor - it was one of my first horrors.

Ghoulie Joe 06-26-2013 03:12 PM

The Grudge II
When a Stranger Calls Back

Nates Vault 06-28-2013 07:10 PM

For my part I would say

Phantasm II
Return of the Living Dead 2 (funnier, IMO)
Dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead
Friday The 13th Parts 2, 4, 5, 6, 7
A Nightmare On Elm Street Wes Craven's New Nightmare
Exorcist III
Puppet Master 2, 3 and 4
Evil Dead II and Army Of Darkness
Maniac Cop 2 and 3

These are subjective though. Ask me tomorrow and I may have changed my mind

Sculpt 07-02-2013 11:02 PM

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Definitely Evil Dead 2. This sequel is so bad in terms of plot, acting and humour that it's actually good :). Sam Rami said one time that ED2 was the movie that he'd like to make from the beginning.

And of course there's the nostalgia factor - it was one of my first horrors.

Agree, ED2 was superior to ED. Of course ED2 is a remake, not a sequel. I don't think the plot, acting or humor of ED2 was worse than ED.

For whatever reason, liking ED tends to depend on if you saw ED first, or ED2 first. Could be many reasons, but I'd have to point to nostalgia as a reason to like ED better or equally well as ED2.

metternich1815 07-03-2013 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 952182)
Agree, ED2 was superior to ED. Of course ED2 is a remake, not a sequel. I don't think the plot, acting or humor of ED2 was worse than ED.

For whatever reason, liking ED tends to depend on if you saw ED first, or ED2 first. Could be many reasons, but I'd have to point to nostalgia as a reason to like ED better or equally well as ED2.

Personally, I just think Evil Dead is a better film. I prefer it because of its darker, more serious tone. Although, I did see that film long before its sequel. (On home video, of course)

realdealblues 07-03-2013 04:40 AM

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Personally, I just think Evil Dead is a better film. I prefer it because of its darker, more serious tone. Although, I did see that film long before its sequel. (On home video, of course)

I agree as well. I love the feel of the original. Evil Dead II had a bigger budget and more comedic elements and things that generally make for a better more re-watchable horror film, but I still think the overall darker tone and feel of the original wins for me.

Jigsaw Killer 08-07-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 952182)
Agree, ED2 was superior to ED. Of course ED2 is a remake, not a sequel. I don't think the plot, acting or humor of ED2 was worse than ED.


I think it works as a sequel when you view it as it begins from where ED1 ended. ED2 is sometimes considered a remake but that's just because Sam Raimi couldn't get the rights to the first movie to use the first movie's ending for the recap, so he filmed the scenes at the beginning for a loose recap of the first movie.

LastNightOnEarth 08-07-2013 07:33 PM

Yes ED2 is by far the best of the three, however I really did like the re-make and some of the original elements like: The pendant, Mia is sitting on Ash's car the first time we see her (are they trying to say Ash was there at some point years ago? hmmmm) TWO CHARACTERS LOSING HANDS! And then Mia sticking her stump in the chainsaw at the end. I admit I laughed out loud and cheered! Do have to admit I would have liked to have seen Bruce Campbell playing the father at the beginning, at first glance I did think it was him.

But we are talking superior sequels here aren't we. Ok here's my list in noparticular order.


Halloween 2 Because it is the only sequel ever (that comes to mind), that takes up the moment the previous installment left off. Plus there is no slow build up, Haddonfield is in the thick of it.

The Devil's Rejects Rob Zombie gets it right! And then only gets half of his Halloween re-make right...the first half...the backstory.

Phantasm II (props to Jigsaw Killer)

Friday the 13th part II (Introducing Jason!! Also i have to admit I am directly connected to the original cause the location was my boyscout camp in Blairstown, NJ so that was a hard decision for me)

Dawn of The Dead Honestly because it was bigger in vision, but the blue zombies still annoy me. However the Zach Synder version beats them all.

Evil Dead 2 all ready covered that

Prometheus yeah, yeah, Ridley Scott it isn't a "prequel" to "Alien"we know...cough, cough "BS!" And it has Fassbender!

Blairwitch 2: Book of Shadows basically because it was watchable, and there is something to be said about a Wiccan orgy in the woods....something that happens to be on my bucket list.

Let's see....Do we consider 3rd & 4th installments??? I guess so, I pulled "Prometheus" out of no where, bet you automatically thought of "Aliens"??? yeah that one is more exciting than the original, but I think "Alien" is a better film.

OHHH!!! American Psycho 2 starring William Shatner.....I kid, I jest, I joke. That movie is awful.

The Villain 08-07-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LastNightOnEarth (Post 954482)
Halloween 2 Because it is the only sequel ever (that comes to mind), that takes up the moment the previous installment left off. Plus there is no slow build up, Haddonfield is in the thick of it.

REC 2 also picks up exactly where the first one left off

LastNightOnEarth 08-08-2013 06:57 AM

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REC 2 also picks up exactly where the first one left off

Interesting, I did not know that. I used to be way into foreign films, especially after the crouching tiger phase, but I really can't stand reading subtitles anymore. There was some french movie about a girl, and her car broke down and she was running from a killer and she had a chainsaw, but it turned out she was the killer, I don't remember, but I think that was the last one I actually watched.

metternich1815 08-08-2013 07:18 AM

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Interesting, I did not know that. I used to be way into foreign films, especially after the crouching tiger phase, but I really can't stand reading subtitles anymore. There was some french movie about a girl, and her car broke down and she was running from a killer and she had a chainsaw, but it turned out she was the killer, I don't remember, but I think that was the last one I actually watched.

I think that film is called High Tension (also known as Haute Tension). I have not seen of it, but I have heard of it. I recently (like in the past year) started watching foreign (mainly horror) movies. I really enjoyed Rec, Shutter (2004), and Tale of Two Sisters.

hammerfan 08-08-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by metternich1815 (Post 954512)
I think that film is called High Tension (also known as Haute Tension). I have not seen of it, but I have heard of it. I recently (like in the past year) started watching foreign (mainly horror) movies. I really enjoyed Rec, Shutter (2004), and Tale of Two Sisters.

Check out "Dumplings"

LastNightOnEarth 08-13-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by metternich1815 (Post 954512)
I think that film is called High Tension (also known as Haute Tension). I have not seen of it, but I have heard of it. I recently (like in the past year) started watching foreign (mainly horror) movies. I really enjoyed Rec, Shutter (2004), and Tale of Two Sisters.

High Tension! Yeah that's it! that was great!

metternich1815 08-13-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hammerfan (Post 954515)
Check out "Dumplings"

I think that film was included with the special edition of Three...Extremes (3 Extremes) I bought today. Unless it's just part of the film, I do not know, I have not seen it yet. I just know that I saw a disc that said Dumplings on it.

LastNightOnEarth 08-31-2013 08:04 PM

Ok, here's a sequel that blows away the original..."V.H.S 2" watched it last night On Demand. WOW! It was freaky good. Loved he original but this kind of blew it away. Found it very creative in the use of camera work and picture quality. I mean it's called VHS but who the hell wants to watch grainy camera footage.

One story had a guy with a prosthetic eye with a camera in it to give him sight cause he lost his eye in a car accident and he saw everything in HD....story was he was seeing ghosts, but it was HD.

Another one was a first-person zombie story from the zombie's perspective. Dude is mountain biking in the woods with a helmet camera and he gets turned into a zombie.

Another was a Jim Jones story with a camera crew inside the compound...that one was freaky as hell and pretty disturbing.

The final was an alien story, this didn't get the HD treatment but the SFX were pretty wild.

Jigsaw Killer 09-03-2013 07:58 PM

I still have to see the V/H/S movies, been intrigued to see both of them.


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