I caught all the things you mentioned, and I understand why all that works but I still think it could have been written differently and drawn down to a tighter focus and still have worked without those characters.

The last film that was that big of an event for me (film-wise) was The Signal (2007) which I didn't see until 2011, but I bet I watched that movie 6 or 7 days in a row after I bought it on Blu-Ray.

A reveal, ahead of the DVD/BD release.


I bet none of you saw this in the theaters. Neither did I.

LOL - I thought I already posted this... But it definitely sums up how I feel (oh and cracks me up). :D

What did I miss??? :confused: I don't get it.

The Engineer talking, and David telling Weyland what he asked the Engineer.

That didn't happen in the movie? Been so long - Totally forgot... :o

I should be angry, but I am not. :p

Go watch it once more in the theaters before the BD comes out with all the deleted scenes added up.

Thanks for fixing my vid, V!

whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine... noooooooooooooooooo... answer my queeeeeeeestionnnnnnnnn

After watching the movie last night for the first time, I've just finishing reading this whole thread. Man...you guys completely amazed me! How freaking beautifully you (particularly Ferox, CG & Posher) pointed out all those plot-holes, little flaws & questions and even more fascinatingly how V came up with all his answers & assumptions with much logic & sense!! The voices of true fans!! Kudos guys, always glad to have friends like you.

Anyway, I think I can't add more what you have discussed so far, pretty much agree with V's assumption about the Engineers. They have somehow managed to grab the great substance or somewhat a key to the "secret of life" thing on their hand & then did some bio-weaponry sort of experiments that resulted some unpredictable or unwanted outcomes. The thing is it can go either way, as V said, they can be an evolved or mutated version of humans from future or a different & superior sort of intelligent race/creatures that may (as in the opening part) or may not have something to do with creation of human life on earth. But I like to guess they aren't exactly the main or only source of life in universe; more likely an intelligent humanoid creature trying to play God more successfully than human or any other life form ever did before. But yeah...the original leaked script clearly indicates that they are the sole creator of human life; so question is whether Scott & Co. follow that path or put everything into more darker & religious tone in the next phase.

Btw, I saw the film on a superb quality pirated dvd that I rented from my nearby store. Most probably they just downloaded a recent dvd relase-copy (& then copied it into the discs) which got that above "deleted" Weyland confronting Engineer scene. :)

Just for a curiosity, do you think that atmosphere changing inside the pyramid has something to do with or somehow caused the Silica-storm outside? As I far I can recall both the event occurred consecutively or probably simultaneously.

Totally agree with you on this part and the funny thing is when Shaw switch on that med-pod, the voice module part of it says (something like) the med-pod is only programmed to do operation(s) on male patients. WTF?? Why only male-patients? There's 3 important members in this whole project are women; so why they didn't install/have one for them? Or how come a such advanced futuristic-surgery machine is only made for male-patients? Let's assume (as I have little knowledge on surgery or medical things), for the complication part, they made separate med-pods for male & female patients. Then where's the other one for the female crews of the ship? Was it the one that was in Ms. Vickers' chamber? Then it might make some sense, assuming Shaw didn't know that or dared to go into Meredith's chamber at that point of time.

I also found the scene when David mixed that drop of substance into Holloway's drink quite lame! Cause Holloway should have clearly seen that & at least should have rejected the drink or complain about putting his finger on it.:D It was kinda poorly done, the thing should have noticed. I think it'd done better if David put the substance quickly on the bottle instead of glass as soon as he opened the bottle to fill the glass & that can be done without any attention from Holloway.

Nope, that scene was not there in the theatrical version.


The Engineers are not "gods" themselves, but a far more advanced (you can say futuristic) and evolved species of humans - supermen, as I referred to them earlier. And yes, they found the key to creating life and then indulged in all sorts of development, including bio-weaponry. The Xenomorphs are the result of a series of developments/mutations on one side, while the evolution of mankind on the other. One more thing has struck me in the meantime - the opening scene of the film doesn't necessarily have to be on Earth, it could be any planet capable of supporting multi-cellular life (possibly RBC-based). Like the "supermen" resemble us, there's a pretty strong possibility that other races of "men" have developed on other planets as well, through the Engineers.

Lucky. I am still waiting for the official release, while having watched the film in the theater 12 times till now.

Possibly. But LV-223's atmosphere was already dotted with plenty of electrically-discharging storms, as can be seen from space when Prometheus swings in to enter it's atmosphere.

The more interesting question is this - just when Prometheus is landing (or after it has just landed), for a moment when you see the circular pyramid in the distance, I could make out another circular pyramid similar to it some distance away behind the first one. I wonder what was that - one explanation could be that there are many pyramids such as the one which the crew entered, and each one serves as an entrance to the alien spaceship below. As David said "that wasn't the only spaceship".

The way the entire surface of the moon opened up when the alien spaceship was prepping to launch itself, makes me doubt if LV-223 wasn't an artificial moon in itself? Maybe an entire moon created by the Engineers to "harvest" their bioweapons?

Interesting possibilities, if you take that into the scheme of things.

Maybe it was custom-made for usage by Weyland only. Like Vickers said "it is a limited edition thing and costs a fortune". (which makes you wonder if Vickers also knew Weyland was onboard Prometheus, hiding away from the rest of the crew) Weyland being in the advanced stage (near to death condition) that he was, it could have been exclusively for him. There was no mention nor indications given throughout the film about a separate female surgery pod, and since Shaw ran to that pod only, it's safe to assume that it was the only surgery pod available on the ship.

Holloway was too drunk to notice, and too disappointed to think of anything else. The more important thing here is - when David opened/closed the bottle, he was bound to touch the bottle's surface with all his fingers (specially when closing the bottle). That should have caused the goo on the tip of his finger to have been smeared all over the bottle's surface. Another one of the mistakes in the film. Scott should have thought of this a lot more clearly.

LOL! Thanks. :D

I finally saw this last night and I have to say I was very pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Prometheus. It really wasn't the film I expected it to be as I had extremely low expectations but it far exceeded them and was very thought provoking. Though it had a few flaws for me personally (the choice of actors/actresses, no Sigourney Weaver) for me they were outweighed by the good especially how there was no alien till the very end I thought that was a clever risk to take. I also loved the concept of the aliens being engineered to destroy humans and of the engineers as creators/destroyers in line with the Mayan/Sumerian mythologies referenced in the film. A huge thumb up from me.

Merry Christmas in advance, folks. (Big Thanks to HDC-ian roshiq for the related link)

http://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/n...tts-prometheus

The Vatican’s official newspaper attacked Ridley Scott’s Prometheus, taking issue with the film’s premise about the origins of mankind and saying it is “a bad idea to defy the gods,” explains the Hollywood Reporter.

The film, which opened in Italy on Sept. 14, is about a team of explorers seeking to understand the origins of mankind on earth after discovering a series of clues left behind by ancient civilizations.

L’Osservatore Romano, the Vatican’s official newspaper, said Prometheus “mishandles the delicate questions raised by … the battle eternal between good and evil in yet another attempt to steak the secret of immortality.” The newspaper also said that “the journey of Prometheus should instead symbolize the search for the supernatural,” referring to the original hero of Greek mythology who is said to have created man from clay.

Prometheus, now on iTunes, releases on Blu-ray and DVD October 9.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...iticism-373429

:D

Funny.

My honest opinion about this film:
Prometheus has good special effects, really nice CGI, but very weak story and some really bad acting especially from secondary characters (like the "pissedoff" guy). Why the hell he was so pissed from the beggining? It looked so fake and exaggerated :( Also there was almost zero prestory to each character so we could actually like them or really hate them.

Near the end ship captain decides to blow alien (or gods or engineers or whatever) ship apart by sacrificing his ship. It supposed to look like heroic moment right? I don't know why but it didn't feel right... Whole crew onboard died but I didn't give a damn about them... I didn't care about captain, his two companions and all the others on the ship. Most films give atleast some screen time to these characters so they could show us why they're heroic, sad, lucky, bad, angry... How they became so-and-so (ideal example to me would be Armageddon - I actually cared about every single died crew member!).

Also, why the heck they choose GUY PEARCE over real old actor??? His character felt so unnatural and fake. I think now I understand why I like older movies better than newer ones. There were much less fakeness in them: real explosions, real old actors, real young actors, real fire, real car crashes...

Oh, and one more thing... David (Michael Fassbender) was the most likeable character in this film. I mean he was android but actually felt like he was the only real human in this spaceship. I don't know about others here, but I really liked him and he was the only character that I cared about at the end of this film.

So all in all this film felt like a fastforward cassette with too much cutoff content. I'd give prometheus something like 5/10 just because of FX and David, but that is not enough for me to watch this film again.

Sorry if you liked this film but each person has his own opinion here.

P.S> English isn't my primary language and I know that I did a lot of errors in this text so please don't be hatin' ;)

Secondary characters were a bit weakly developed than the main characters. That's a flaw in the script, and I blame the scriptwriter more than the director. As for the "pissed off" scientist, he was a foreigner and distinctly gave off the vibe of "I don't like Americans, and I don't like American corporate honchos. I am just here for the cheque." Guess he didn't like the Weyland company much.

You don't need much of a pre-story to like/hate a character. There wasn't much offered in Alien either, neither in Aliens. All had pretty strong, likeable characters.


Not much of a crew was left in the Prometheus by then. The captain only had two of his pilots with him, and he gave them the option of jumping ship. And they both declined it and chose to stay with him till the end. The only other person on the ship, Meredith Vickers, ejected out through a pod.


They chose him because they had long scenes of a young Weyland in the original script by Jon Spaihts (which was later changed quite a bit in the rewrites by Lindelof). A viral video depicting young Weyland was also shot for the promo campaign preceding the release. And there are assumptions being made that the sequel will have scenes of young Weyland added into it as flashbacks, so that's the reason.


On the contrary, David quite clearly had a hidden agenda throughout the film, and gave off hints that he might not be faithful even to his creator, Weyland, as well. Wait for the DVD release with all the deleted scenes which will make things clearer. He is a distinct anti-hero of the piece.


The rewrites did leave a lot of questions unanswered, but most answers are provided in the film itself, if watched carefully. I think the uncut version (or possibly the director's cut version) will give all of us a clearer picture of Ridley Scott's vision of Prometheus. He himself is not satisfied with the finished product, specially the reaction from the fans. That's why he's promised to redeem himself in the sequel. We might see a lot of our unsolved queries answered in Prometheus 2. Meanwhile, get the DVD/Blu-Ray with all those added deleted scenes (worth an extra 40 minutes).

Ridley Scott says 'questions will be answered' with 'Prometheus' Blu-ray


http://www.hitfix.com/news/ridley-sc...etheus-blu-ray

And now for a WTF moment -



Wait...




Hold your breath...




Okay, here we go...




Prometheus shares a link with...




(nobody would have guessed it)




(although fans might have a faint stirring of this)




BLADE RUNNER!!!








Yes, a big WHOA! moment for all fans of both franchises, including yours truly, who is still trying to gather his jaw from the floor.

Cheap one-time publicity gimmick, or adding up to something more? Your guess is as good as mine.


http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...-too-20121006#

Prometheus DVD vs. Blu Ray
 

What's up with dvd buyers getting ripped off to high heaven now? I guess they're trying to get rid of dvd and move completely to blu ray, but it's expensive, and I really wish the Prometheus dvd had something special on it other than just the generic stuff. Anyone know what the best edition of the film I can get on dvd is? I guess i'll try to buy a Bluray player closer to the holidays, but does the dvd at least have the 15 minutes of bonus footage?

Bought the DVD today. Don't know if Reg 1 is different...but I got all of 6 alternate/deleted scenes...not including the alternate opening and ending.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Promet.../39474/#Review

$25 at Best Buy. Comes with a blu-ray AND a DVD (and a 3D blu-ray, but who cares). Comes with all bonus features. 2 commentaries. THREE AND A HALF hour making of documentary. Deleted scenes. Etc. It's a twenty-five dollar investment and you'll have something now and something for when you get a blu-ray player.

So all the best special features are blu ray, but the dvd still has the extended cut right?

None of the versions has the extended cut. There is no extended cut. They both have deleted/extended scenes, though. Scott has said in interviews that he sincerely considers the theatrical cut to be his "director's vision", and as someone who is particularly picky with censors and limitations, he loves the version showed in theaters.

Oh I was under the impression that the dvd was going to have those scenes added in. Fair enough. I'll buy it. Cool cover

What alky said. That there is the best release of Prometheus yet.

And yes, the deleted scenes have not been added directly to the existing film, per se. They can be viewed separately.

A super bunch of bonus materials added too, as well. Sweet! Can't wait till it gets released over here. (since Amazon doesn't accept my card)

The movie was filmed in 3D. That is how it's supposed to be seen.

I should have clarified. I do care. Prometheus is the best 3D movie I have seen to date. My point in this situation was that since Posher doesn't have a blu-ray player and is already on the fence about that, a 3D blu-ray probably means nothing to him. I was trying to emphasize that even if the 3D blu is never used the edition is still worth the money.

Oh. Well I use a PS3 it's not expensive for what you are getting.

More details here - http://www.film.com/dvd/prometheus-blu-ray-interview

Interesting.

Indeed :-)

Is that official or fanart?

Official.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...2321197&type=1

Watching Prometheus for the first time later this week when it comes out on PPV. Expectations are riding the highest they have for a movie in a long time, thanks in part to V.

Don't set the bar of your expectations too high, and wait to expect a prequel of sorts to Alien. Watch it as a standalone film, or as a spinoff based on the same. You will appreciate it more for what it is.

Happy viewing.

i enjoyed this movie more than i thought i would. so many people put it down so i did not have high expectations for the movie. like v said i think it was a better movie if you dont link it with the alien movie, personally i recon it should have been a stand alone movie.