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swiss tony 06-11-2011 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=Fearonsarms;894471]...we had to wait till LAST year to get full uncut versions of Inferno and Deep Red...QUOTE]

So my copies of those movies, that are older than last year, aren't complete? Shit! Is it worth obtaining the 'full' versions, or are virtually the same?

Fearonsarms 06-19-2011 02:19 PM

SPOILER ALERT!
As far as I know as Zwoti said earlier in the discussion-the animal cruelty laws have been relaxed last year so in deep red you see the pin going through a lizard.
In Inferno you see a cat whacked against something and then a cat eating a mouse.

But there may be more-I saw the cut version of Deep Red years ago that was missing 20mins of footage and I've only seen the uncut version of Inferno that came out last year

leezuki 06-27-2011 03:19 PM

have not seen first human centipede is it worth watching i allways avoided this movie.

Fearonsarms 06-28-2011 08:54 AM

I haven't either it sounded too ridiculous to even bother with.

Cradle of Death 07-08-2011 06:51 AM

I thought it was very good, but I'm a sick dude !! IMO, it's much better than most of the movie's I've seen lately. prob my favorite of the genre since Martyrs

Fearonsarms 07-08-2011 02:56 PM

That is actually a quite funny post given the context whoever you REALLY are lol

Scarebaby 07-16-2011 05:03 AM

Yay for not living in a country that censors everything.

zwoti 10-06-2011 10:27 AM

after the big hoo-ha over the banning of the film,

no surprise there was no coverage of the fact it has now been passed with 157 seconds of cuts.

silentmovieman 10-06-2011 11:28 AM

Having read the reasons for banning it I can say I don't think we'll be missing much, sounds terrible

ZombieDrone 10-06-2011 11:46 AM

My two cents.

Being a Brit, I'm well aware of the BBFC and I think for a film board in a western and somewhat liberalised society, they are very sensitive when it comes to objectionable material.

I read a BBC report earlier and it said that it was one of only 11 films that the BBFC ever banned. Now, I'm quite interested in the Video Nasties phenomenon (though I've stated there's a few of the films, I don't think I'll ever watch because they're "too much" such as Cannibal Holocaust) and though most of them are now available uncut, I think there's at least 11 films on that list alone which still aren't distributable legally.

Though this is probably more the fact that the films never got resubmitted for classification than for the fact that these films would still be regarded as obscene. And some of the choices for the list were insane (for example banning The Beyond or Inferno and not Salo, which I've heard is pretty nasty)

But, I don't believe in censorship, at least not any heavy form of it. Do I find some things hard to stomach or offensive, of course I do, most people do. Do I feel that that should stop other people from watching these films? Certainly not.

SteyrAUG 10-06-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Freak (Post 894183)
I can't say that I'm to upset about this. The first was utterly stupid and over hyped.


Yep, as much as I hate censorship and am a raging Libertarian, some movies aren't controversial so much as just fucked up. But in the end, I think grown adults should be made capable of making that determination for themselves.


http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8381/001mad1zo2.jpg

Ferox13 10-06-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SteyrAUG (Post 906275)
But in the end, I think grown adults should be made capable of making that determination for themselves.

No need for adults to decide what I should be able to watch no matter how trashy anyone thinks it is.

SteyrAUG 10-06-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 906276)
No need for adults to decide what I should be able to watch no matter how trashy anyone thinks it is.

I think it is possible you misread my statement.

Pariah. 10-06-2011 10:15 PM

The first film was so awful that I wanted to kill myself after watching it.

So I'm not particularly worried that I wont be able to see the second.

I am however surprised they got the money to make a second one. You know, on account of it being utter trash and all.

TheWickerFan 10-07-2011 03:10 AM

It never ceases to amaze me; "I hate censorship, but---". No matter how trashy a film looks, how morally bankrupt or stupid you might think it is, it should not be censored.

Ritualistic 10-07-2011 10:06 AM

In my opinion, the first one was ridiculous and all hype. I laughed at it because it was so stupid, ive seen far far far worse films. I really dont see the point of them banning the film, you see things worse on the news. Like I said, just my opinion. I will watch this one just because I know it will make me laugh. I too am against censorship.

Ferox13 10-07-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SteyrAUG (Post 906284)
I think it is possible you misread my statement.

I was actually totally agreeing with you..

SteyrAUG 10-07-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 906365)
I was actually totally agreeing with you..

Ah gotcha. I misinterpreted your reply then. As has been demonstrated inflection can be difficult on the internet.

At least everyone seems to be on the same page, even if we don't always know it at the time.

:D

zwoti 10-31-2011 10:31 AM

and guess what snuck out onto dvd today without a word of complaint from anyone

Fearonsarms 11-01-2011 03:44 AM

I bet its a severely cut version though-Distributors have often claimed new releases in the UK are "uncut" as anyone knows who was fooled into buying the supposedly uncut recent release of "Cannibal Holocaust" (though I think its fully uncut now after last year's relaxing of censorship laws) knows-not my cup of tea cos of the non stimulated animal cruelty but people should be able to watch full films-no censorship is needed. Banning films just gets more kids interested in seeing them like the farce with Child's Play and Mikey (this one is still ridiculously banned by the BBFC!)

ZombieDrone 11-01-2011 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearonsarms (Post 908524)
I bet its a severely cut version though-Distributors have often claimed new releases in the UK are "uncut" as anyone knows who was fooled into buying the supposedly uncut recent release of "Cannibal Holocaust" (though I think its fully uncut now after last year's relaxing of censorship laws) knows-not my cup of tea cos of the non stimulated animal cruelty but people should be able to watch full films-no censorship is needed. Banning films just gets more kids interested in seeing them like the farce with Child's Play and Mikey (this one is still ridiculously banned by the BBFC!)

Ah yes, this is true. I don't think we'll see Cannibal Holocaust truly uncut for a long time in the UK, mostly because of the animal cruelty, which as an animal lover I do feel a little sympathetic towards.

It is worth pointing out however that the first cut of Cannibal Holocaust brought before the BBFC was already cut before the BBFC banned it.

As for the case involving Child's Play and Mikey, I sympathise with the family of James Bulger and it was a terrible thing, but it's knee-jerk ill-thought-out populism that's responsible for banning these films.

Ah, the ever-proceeding trudge of the censorious.

friday13thfan 11-01-2011 08:53 AM

Watched it last night with a few friends. My personal opinion? Worst movie I have ever seen. Violent and Disgusting just for the sake of it. Didn't add to the story or anything. Will watch the 3rd and "final" one when it comes out.

proficient 11-01-2011 11:21 PM

I have an extremely open mind about artistic expression. Just, no, no, no and no. Horror needs a purpose, good horror anyway. That's just my opinion but really?

There was just nothing there. It is a crying shame that my independent stories are just better than that crap. Nothing is there and move on.

I think I'd rather listen to Rape Me by Nirvana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLwQ7Qlxr4&NR=1fifty thousand times than watch that piece of shit ever again. Excuse the pun if you actually watched that crap. Again sorry about the crap reference because the creators obviously have a shit fetish. Hey, I just call it like I see em. Unfortunately, assholes like that have more money that I have so there shit goes to the screen.

I read the rules of this forum and I'm sorry for the rant. However, when I spend the time to craft meaningful work that moves the genre forward and I even see that Human Centipede gets a scent of recognition that grabs my goat, and he has big balls!

crazy raplh 11-02-2011 06:50 AM

I couldn't watch it

roshiq 11-02-2011 08:32 AM

Here's my review....

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Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 908622)
The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) [2011]

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...idhdc/HC2A.jpg

This is a highly self indulgent aka controversy+attention grabbing effort from Tom Six that mainly focused on shock value. Even now it seems kinda funny that there are 2 min. & 37 sec. footage got cut in this release when they allowed quite a sufficient amount of gore, shit & disturbing elements in this version. Except of that reported brutal rape & masturbating scene I don't see the points why they removed all those other 'seemingly tolerable' scenes. Perhaps to boost the US or international theatrical & DVD release I guess.
Anyway, first of all the thing that disappointed me most was its premise or in what ground or character around this sequel story started off. This time they introduced another seemingly interesting character on the lead...a mentally handicapped fat little guy who works as a security guard in an underground garage somewhere and also a huge FAN of Tom Six's original HC film. Now, the way Mr. Six developed & portrayed this character in the film is actually kinda interesting with a tortured background but I just didn't like the fact that he's a crazy fan of HC-1ST SEQ & conducted the whole 10 person ass-to-mouth experiment by himself alone. May be there's a hidden dark meaning or message out there somewhere which I failed to get but I think this character of "Martin" needed a helping hand or would better suited as a helper/assistant of another crazed surgeon or failed/frustrated/freak medical student (or an apprentice of Dr. Heiter) by still getting the main attention throughout the movie as it was Martin who would control the major tricks & turns all the way. The way Martin presented in the story, he was actually quite unfit or incompetent for conducting HC experiment. Moreover, the way he was collecting 'the samples' from his regular job place without grabbing any attention from any authority/anyone or consequences was absurd. The black & white photography was an interesting & nice touch by Tom Six that little bit seems to gave a Lynchian-Eraserhead vibe on Martin's inside house sequence but overall Mr. Six didn't manage or not even intended to gave an artistic look to his film as he deliberately made an over-the-top grotesque showcase of bizarre sadism. There's actually nothing added to the story or consequence of original or 1st HC story. Moreover, they presented the original as a 'film' in this sequel (where I expected & preferred a follow up of the events happened in the 1st film) and who knows...may be we'll see another psycho in the "Final sequence" watching the 'Full Sequence' and conducting a 20 people linked gruesome centipede-experiment.

>>: C


Ferox13 11-03-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 908624)
Here's my review....

I didn't read that yet (as I don't want to read too many spoilers before i see it) but are the 'cuts' in it noticable. I think there are nearly 2 and a half minutes gone.

roshiq 11-03-2011 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 908699)
I didn't read that yet (as I don't want to read too many spoilers before i see it) but are the 'cuts' in it noticable. I think there are nearly 2 and a half minutes gone.

Yeah....some are noticeable & some are not. Except to promote the DVD or other uncut international theatrical releases I don't see the points for making those 'cuts'.

Fearonsarms 11-03-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieDrone (Post 908535)
Ah yes, this is true. I don't think we'll see Cannibal Holocaust truly uncut for a long time in the UK, mostly because of the animal cruelty, which as an animal lover I do feel a little sympathetic towards.

It is worth pointing out however that the first cut of Cannibal Holocaust brought before the BBFC was already cut before the BBFC banned it.

As for the case involving Child's Play and Mikey, I sympathise with the family of James Bulger and it was a terrible thing, but it's knee-jerk ill-thought-out populism that's responsible for banning these films.

Ah, the ever-proceeding trudge of the censorious.

Couldn't agree more I'm a vegetarian so I think animal cruelty should be wiped out-however the film was made to be controvertial and upsetting and I can forget my personal view because I am 100 % against censorship-we all know the film has upsetting scenes I don't see how banning it will make any difference-no one will attempt to replicate these non simulated cruelty scenes so I think that battle is won-but if you ask me it is the cut versions of films that should be banned.

Also yes of course what happened to Jamie Bulger was horrific but it 100 % had nothing to do with Child's Play or Mikey-as you say the knee jerk banning of Mikey was completely uncalled for-they made it a scapegoat-do these people really think that banning Mikey will stop child cruelty? Reality check BBFC these people are always going to commit these crimes regardlesss what they see on TV so banning just gives a film a notoriety and makes it more popular on the black market-Sheesh there must be hundreds of films more disturbing than MIkey people can see Vulgar, Mysterious Skin, Night School, The Cook The Thief His Wife Her Lover and Alice Sweet Alice all featuring far worse child abuse than Mikey. THESE FILMS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CRIMES. I'm sorry for the rant but it really pisses me off the BBFC

ZombieDrone 11-03-2011 10:19 PM

I've always believed very strongly that any claim that a film/song/video game is purely responsible for causing someone to be a sociopathic criminal is absolute nonsense. People are far more complex psychologically for that to be the case. I like horror movies, I listen to rock music, I've played violent video games...I also have a degree, regularly help charities, always ensure to be polite to people and have never been troubled by the police.

Insanity.

Ferox13 11-04-2011 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearonsarms (Post 908779)
Also yes of course what happened to Jamie Bulger was horrific but it 100 % had nothing to do with Child's Play or Mikey-as you say the knee jerk banning of Mikey was completely uncalled for-they made it a scapegoat-do these people really think that banning Mikey will stop child cruelty?

I always thought i was wierd that they banned Mikey (in direct reaction to the Bulger Murder) but didn't ban Childs Play 3 which was the film named by the media.

Mongoose33 11-08-2011 12:01 AM

Human Centipede 2 Uncut? anybody?
 
Hey guys, anybody know where I can watch the uncut/banned version of the Human Centipede 2? I know there're like hundreds of torrents of the cut version

Just wondering if anybody saw the real thing...

elephantnuke 11-08-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose33 (Post 909157)
Hey guys, anybody know where I can watch the uncut/banned version of the Human Centipede 2? I know there're like hundreds of torrents of the cut version

Just wondering if anybody saw the real thing...

My "blokes" and I watched the uncut edition (http://trustedmoviedownloads.com/human-centipede-2/ ) and we were split. Half of us wanted our time back and half of us were puking... but I kinda enjoyed the gore that was missing from the first movie.

Ferox13 11-08-2011 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by elephantnuke (Post 909158)
My "blokes" and I watched the uncut edition

The version doing the rounds is the VOD one and is cut. We'll prolly have to wait for the DVD release for an uncut version.


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