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crabapple 04-23-2011 11:50 AM

Oh, that looks good! I am a sucker for a delicious pizza, as my associates well know. Pizza, Pepsi, some peeps, and three videotapes, that is a mildly entertaining evening right there.

BookZombie 04-23-2011 11:57 AM

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A carvery is what you get in most pubs and hotels on sundays. It's a one stop buffet roast dinner. There are usually four or five meats to choose from which the chef carves for you. You go on to select your vegetables, yorkshire puddings etc. and add gravy then go down and eat.
Sounds yummy. I would like to try such a restaurant at one time or another.

Diabolical 04-23-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crabapple (Post 890535)
Basically, yeah. I was hoping there would be subtle nuances to the preparation, though, peculiar to the variation, and there were.

i guess im confused to your reaction. I have fried fish probably once a week.

Sistinas666 04-23-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BookZombie (Post 890538)
Sounds yummy. I would like to try such a restaurant at one time or another.


Me too!:D Beer and slabs of beef= heaven!

Fearonsarms 04-23-2011 04:00 PM

I went to Wagamamas once and never again-poor potions of noodles and veg-the salad I had was more generus but not worth the price at all. Really loved the Mogolian Barbecue that someone mentioned-highly recommend that cos when I went you could eat as much as you wanted for a cheap fixed price with plenty of fried veg. If I'm going to random restaurants I'll usually have a mushroom pizza or a veggie burger cos you can't usually go wrong with those.

ferretchucker 04-23-2011 04:36 PM

I can't believe you guys don't have carveries! They're common as anything over here. Although, come to think of it, how common are roast dinners in the US? This is a genuine question - I don't think I ever really see them on TV shows. The full shebang with chicken, roast potatoes, peas, carrots, yorkshire puddings, gravy, sage and onion stuffing, broccoli, brussel sprouts etc. ?

Same with Chippies in regards to how common they are. I can think of at least 7 in my town alone, and it's not a huge town.

I guess the chips are a bit different because they're a lot chunkier than fries. They tend to be a lot softer because they have more potato and less of a coating.
http://www.windmillsshopping.co.uk/i...ppy01_full.jpg

As for brown sauce, that stuff is the shiznit! I have it with most meals. I heard once that it's called steak sauce in America? It's a vegetable mix that's mildly spicy and has a somewhat pickled/fermented flavour.
http://www.beatmagazine.co.uk/wp-con...09/2e57hb5.jpg

hueyisme 04-23-2011 04:42 PM

New York pizza sounds great. Ive never been to New York but Ive heard great reviews about the pizza. I wish I had some now, as Mexican pizza sucks. In Mexico if you eat where the locals eat, Mexican food is the best food in the world. If you eat in the American resturants here, the food is the worst.

Sistinas666 04-23-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 890567)
I can't believe you guys don't have carveries! They're common as anything over here. Although, come to think of it, how common are roast dinners in the US? This is a genuine question - I don't think I ever really see them on TV shows. The full shebang with chicken, roast potatoes, peas, carrots, yorkshire puddings, gravy, sage and onion stuffing, broccoli, brussel sprouts etc. ?

Same with Chippies in regards to how common they are. I can think of at least 7 in my town alone, and it's not a huge town.

I guess the chips are a bit different because they're a lot chunkier than fries. They tend to be a lot softer because they have more potato and less of a coating.
http://www.windmillsshopping.co.uk/i...ppy01_full.jpg

As for brown sauce, that stuff is the shiznit! I have it with most meals. I heard once that it's called steak sauce in America? It's a vegetable mix that's mildly spicy and has a somewhat pickled/fermented flavour.
http://www.beatmagazine.co.uk/wp-con...09/2e57hb5.jpg

Roast beef dinners are a bit uncommon here at restraunts, mostly its always been a sunday dinner by the wife/mother/grandmother in my family. It usually consists of a beef roast with potatos, cabbage, carrots, and onions. There are also rolls, salad, and dessert. Tomorrow I am firing up my smoker and smoking a pork butt *insert joke here*. Probably will have baked beans, corn on the cob, and homemade coleslaw with it!(I can't wait as I have the munchies right now) :D




Also, that picture of fish and chips looks exactly like what our Long John Silvers looks like. I mean it totally looks like LJS, like the pic is from a commercial for LJS.......

newb 04-23-2011 08:17 PM

"As for brown sauce, that stuff is the shiznit! I have it with most meals. I heard once that it's called steak sauce in America? It's a vegetable mix that's mildly spicy and has a somewhat pickled/fermented flavour."


sounds like our A1 sauce

http://www.momsbudget.com/coupons/images/a1.jpg

crabapple 04-24-2011 12:39 AM

It's funny...a funny thing about that steak sauce stuff. I like it okay, but not with steak! I find the stuff tastes dreadful on steak, ends up just sort of masking the flavor with its weirdness. But on other things, potatoes and veggies and whatnot, I think it is lovely.

BookZombie 04-24-2011 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sistinas666 (Post 890548)
Me too!:D Beer and slabs of beef= heaven!

Movie night at my house, homemade food, quite often something like beef or a roast, with baked potato and vegetables. Horror movies on the TV, and me with orange juice and my hubby with a glass of good whiskey, those are the times life is great to live. :D

ferretchucker 04-24-2011 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crabapple (Post 890585)
It's funny...a funny thing about that steak sauce stuff. I like it okay, but not with steak! I find the stuff tastes dreadful on steak, ends up just sort of masking the flavor with its weirdness. But on other things, potatoes and veggies and whatnot, I think it is lovely.

It goes superbly with a cheese toasty.


Interesting dining experience - Went to a pub yesterday that sold pork scratchings by the "half pint" in, well...half pint glasses. Very odd.

BookZombie 04-24-2011 05:34 AM

Ok so my hubby, me and my hubby's best friend where going out for pizza. We ordered a custom pizza with one half being a standard number from the menu, the the other half being chicken and scampi. I do not know how many times we tried to explain this to the obviously mentally challenged girl taking our order. Half in half custom pizza, one side nr 35 the other side chicken and scampi, that should not be to hard to get.

Eventually I pulled out a pen and paper and drew a pizza, divided it by a line and wrote this side chicken and scampi and this side nr 35, still the woman did not get it. She asked things like: so you want scampi all over the pizza? Do you want two pizzas, do you want nr 35 with scampi? We could not get her to understand what we where trying to order so we ended up having to order a nr 35 and not a custom, which off course lost them money as the customs are more expensive. I think that girl must have been the most stupid person I have ever met, either that or she was high and her mind where somewhere else.

Diabolical 04-24-2011 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 890567)
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I guess the chips are a bit different because they're a lot chunkier than fries. They tend to be a lot softer because they have more potato and less of a coating.
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do you think of mcdonalds fires when you think of fires? they are many different types of fries. the ones you pictured would be considered steak fries.

crabapple 04-24-2011 07:40 AM

BZ, your pizza ordering story scares me. Once I went out to hang with some buddies in a desert city north of here, and everyone in the town was stupid, as if they had been bored by their environment and could no longer think. Maybe it was the bright sun reflecting off all the dirt. Hard to say.

You would go to the local hamburger place and ask for a meal and the person would stand there for a long time and say "Uhhhhhh, uhhhhhhh......what is it you want again?" or something similar.

BookZombie 04-24-2011 08:10 AM

I have s story which is almost as bad though it did not happen in a restaurant. My best friend is a co owner of a Internet cafe, now he had hired my hubby to do some maintenance on their servers. One day I dropped by to give a message to my hubby and I asked the vacant eyed girl in behind the counter if my hubby where there. She chewed her gum and said she did not know who that was. So I asked her about the man who had been hired to fix the servers, she only looked at me with a deer cough in the headlight sort of way. Then I asked her if my best friend was in, I asked for him by name, she said she did not know who that was. I said, the owner of this place, your boss is he in. The girl look at me confused and said. "I do not know, but you can go down and check." And with that she sent me down into the server room where the cafe's most expensive equipment was without knowing who I was or without checking on me in any way, but then as she did not even know her own boss's name I do not know what I could expect.

ferretchucker 04-24-2011 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Diabolical (Post 890611)
do you think of mcdonalds fires when you think of fires? they are many different types of fries. the ones you pictured would be considered steak fries.

Not necessarily McDonalds. I tend to think of chips as the thick, softer ones and fries as a crispier affair. That's how it tends to be viewed in England.

crabapple 04-24-2011 09:02 AM

At the pub where I got the fish the other day--their chips were skinny, like McDonald's fries, really, but were soft and also well browned. I was expecting a thicker cut on these, but it was tasty all the same. I splashed a lot of vinegar on them!

There was a dish or tartar sauce that came with the plate, and that was nice to dip both the fish and the chips into.

cheebacheeba 04-24-2011 10:13 AM

I prefer chips personally, best when dipped in bleeding flesh. Maybe.
Try it.
I don't actually dine out a lot...when I do, it tends to be "cheap" food, but better food than your standard takeaway fare.
I'll hit up a "food court" underground in our chinatown that looks completely dodgy, but has some of the best assorted asian food along with "street" food there...totally crowded but it works.
I love hitting up a Frasian (common term here for asian operated french bakery) for a vietnamese chicken or pork roll.
Fish and chips joints, pubs occasionally...far superior, nicer, and healthier than most takeaway places.
I also really like Korean food, anywhere I can try a dukbokki that I haven't samples yet I'll try that.
I very much love "whole foods" kind of like what someone mentioned as a Carvy, I'll take that where I can find it, German style is the bomb.
I quite like Indian, and while it's a blast to make from scratch going out for some is the bomb. There's actually an Indian operated burger joint near me, they make the biggest, freshest, saladi-est grilled chicken burgers, and an assortment of Indian dishes - They do a better butter chicken (murgh makhani) than all the local indian places combined.
A lot of Indian food here is North Indian though, South indian I'd get more if I could...love me a masala dosai set.
What else. The occasional traditional shawarma/donner kebab at a GOOD kebab place, I know one in Sydney that's older than me so yeah I'll hit that up.
It's really hard to just say...I go to a lot of places, and I'm constantly looking to try new things and have no intention of stopping, though these are some of the more frequented selections.

ferretchucker 04-24-2011 10:42 AM

Wow, you do have an assorted palette! :eek: I've never actually had a full kebab - I have a strong dislike of Onions and whilst I know I can ask for it without, I prefer to just get Kebab meat with fries. As for Indian food - I genuinely want to move out there just so I can experience it.

There's a pretty decent place just 20 minutes or so away from me that literally just sells Bangers and Mash, however they have about 30 types of each, plus a selection of gravies, and you just select the mixture that most appeals to you. It's a surreal experience because literally everything there is leopard print. I guess the joint itself is a bit tacky but the food is decent.

cheebacheeba 04-24-2011 11:27 AM

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Wow, you do have an assorted palette!
Yeah it's a bit allover the place isn't it?
I just like to not limit myself...most of the places I do "frequent", if you can even call it that, I'll try to not get the exactly same thing all the time either.

I'm typing this at 5:21am, been up all night...if there's one place open between all this Anzac day-ish stuff and the Easter weekend it's were I just came from - My local frasian (they open at 4:30am, how fuckin' awesome is that??) for fresh bread rolls, a big-ass damper, a vietnamese pork & salad roll with chilli and soy, an apple crumble and a chocolate cupcake. Haha not all for me and not all for right now either...I just love getting bread that's that damn fresh...

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I've never actually had a full kebab - I have a strong dislike of Onions and whilst I know I can ask for it without, I prefer to just get Kebab meat with fries
You should. I don't think the subtraction of onion would kill it. There's a lot to a full kebab, a really huge range of flavours going on there. Give it a shot, probably a little bit healthier to throw salad into the mix. Ha, yeah at times I've gone the meat n chips boxes too. Bad-ass munchie food.

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As for Indian food - I genuinely want to move out there just so I can experience it.
You know, I've always been convinced the UK is pretty well in hand for Indian food? Maybe it's just certain towns/places though?

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There's a pretty decent place just 20 minutes or so away from me that literally just sells Bangers and Mash, however they have about 30 types of each, plus a selection of gravies, and you just select the mixture that most appeals to you.
Sounds oldskool to me, I'd check that out in a second.
Don't know why the whole bangers n mash didn't make the move with the rest of the UK expats that came here...should've done...love that shit. Peas, potatoes, carrots, mash , gravy...hell fuckin' yeah.

BookZombie 04-24-2011 11:34 AM

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Wow, you do have an assorted palette! I've never actually had a full kebab - I have a strong dislike of Onions and whilst I know I can ask for it without, I prefer to just get Kebab meat with fries. As for Indian food - I genuinely want to move out there just so I can experience it.
I love kebab, and I usually do not have onion in mine and I think it still tastes great. I do have extra of other vegetables in it instead though.

I think it is good like allot of things, it is good for the body and for the mind to have a little variation I think.

cheebacheeba 04-24-2011 11:36 AM

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I think it is good like allot of things, it is good for the body and for the mind to have a little variation I think.
Yep, that's how you keep loving food.
I think the variety is an important and enriching part of life.

So I just had one of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1nh_m%C3%AC
Fuckin' delicious.

BookZombie 04-24-2011 12:17 PM

Sounds yummy, I have to try making some of those for my hubby and me as it looks real tasty.

cheebacheeba 04-24-2011 01:30 PM

Well, since you're considering it...they're actually super easy to make at home, they end up even cheaper too.
Here's a quick recipe that might help, for the chicken one:

With the chicken, get a whole chicken (or more)and cut into pieces.
Boil
*some water
with some
*vegetable stock
*lots of light soy
*a little dark soy
*some peppercorns
*a bay leaf
*a few star anise
*garlic
*ginger
*some chinese cooking wine (Shoaxing)
*a bit of sichuan pepper if you can get it
*maybe 1/4 of a cinnamon stick
*a couple of dried (preferred, fresh is fine) large red chillis
*a little sesame oil
*some chopped onion.
*Dried onion
No exact amounts here, I never do that, each to their own taste so experiment a bit.

Just simmer/boil your chicken in that for quite some time. There's no maximum really but what you want is to be able to pull the chicken off the bone.

Now one thing is you can actually keep the liquid to cook with another time, something a bit like what they call a "master stock", you can top it up with more flavours every time you cook with it, or use it to add to things like stir-fry etc. The important thing to remember is proper storage - Strain it well first, then into an airtight container and frozen as soon as it's cooled sufficiently, only take it out when it's going to be used again.
To add to it at first, or later if you want to cheat a bit there's store bought master stock mixes, though I'm not sure how good they are on their own.

Get your bread rolls, as you like them, butter or not.

With the carrots traditionally they're pickled but if you don't want to go through the trouble I see little difference, I simply grate fresh carrot for mine.

Get/chop:
*Carrot
*Spring onions
*lettuce (butter or coral)
*Corriander (cilantro, the leaf bit)
*Red chilli - Can be left out, but IMO should be at least a little on there.
*Cucumber (in "sticks", no pulp)

Throw that on your roll with the chicken which can be either served hot or cold, and drizzle a little bit of light soy over the top, and some white pepper if you have it, though any will do.

There you have it...it's the relatively basic version and once you have a pre-existing stock it's even easier. They're awesome to make at home and/or for when friends come over and basically one of the most economical and healthy things to throw together for yourself.

Diabolical 04-24-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 890616)
Not necessarily McDonalds. I tend to think of chips as the thick, softer ones and fries as a crispier affair. That's how it tends to be viewed in England.

yeah, i know what you said, twice. its called steak fries. food from england fucking sucks. period.

cheebacheeba 04-24-2011 01:57 PM

No, you call them steak fries because you're from a country that calls them and mostly anything like them "fries", and calling them chips I would gather, would have people confusing them with ah, "crisps" or the savoury snack you call chips over there.
Here, there's both. All 3 actually.
Crisps, for some reason, we call chips too.
When referring to the variety under discussion here, quite often we'll say "hot chips".
Here and I'd say in the UK and probably NZ, Fries are generally thinner, or of the "shoelace" variety (pommes frites, or fried potato).
Chips are the thicker variety.
We have "steakhouse chips", which are thicker still than most "chips", a bit flatter, something like between a chip and a wedge, on occasion with skin left on one side.
So yeah I'd say that it depends upon where you're from...so, saying it sucks on account of being from the England, is a little strange as you've probably been eating a similar, if not the same thing?

Ferret...nothing beats oldskool non-commercial chips though eh...

Diabolical 04-24-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba (Post 890636)
No, you call them steak fries because you're from a country that calls them and mostly anything like them "fries", and calling them chips I would gather, would have people confusing them with ah, "crisps" or what you'd call chips over there.
Here, there's both.
Fries are generally thinner, or of the "shoelace" variety (pommes frites, or fried potato).
Chips are the thicker variety.
We have "steakhouse chips", which are thicker still than most "chips", a bit flatter, something like between a chip and a wedge, on occasion with skin left on one side.
So yeah I'd say that it depends upon where you're from...so, saying it sucks on account of being from the England, is a little strange as you've probably been eating a similar, if not the same thing?

Ferret...nothing beats oldskool non-commercial chips though eh...

either fucking way. its fried fish (probably not even good fish)and fried potatos. i guarentee i could cook both better than you've had. like i said, there are 100 diffeerent way people cook potatos in america. where did this arguement even come from? cause the guy who cant fry up some food? i dont fuck with england period. so i will argue anything.

BookZombie 04-24-2011 02:04 PM

Thank you for the recepie Cheebacheeba I have to try this for dinner, and perhaps even serve it the next time I have the RPG group over for a game.

Diabolical 04-24-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BookZombie (Post 890639)
Thank you for the recepie Cheebacheeba I have to try this for dinner, and perhaps even serve it the next time I have the RPG group over for a game.


lofl. do you wear costumes?

BookZombie 04-24-2011 02:12 PM

No it is table top not Laiv, however when I go to Laiv's then yes I wear costumes. However I do not Laiv often as I seldom have a whole weekend to set aside for a game. Table top RPG is when the group sit around the table, roll dice and make up stories together, Laiv RPG is when people dress up in costumes and play what effectively speaking improvisation theater without a stage. There is also Play by Post and Play by Chat which is RPG over the internet which is like a group of people writing a story together.

Diabolical 04-24-2011 02:37 PM

have you ever gone to a late night diner, maybe pub in you case in full costume and eaten in character? i think that would be pretty amusing.

What is Laiv??

Sistinas666 04-24-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Diabolical (Post 890647)
have you ever gone to a late night diner, maybe pub in you case in full costume and eaten in character? i think that would be pretty amusing.

What is Laiv??



Years ago I was a butcher in a small town. A couple times a year a big bunch of mountain man looking dudes came in and bought a shit load of meat at my shop. I mean these guys wore coonskin hats and buckskin pants, they looked like extras from a movie. They had some kind of club and re-enacted shit for entire weekends in the woods outside of town. I hid and watched them shop and laughed my ass off every time they came in....

BookZombie 04-24-2011 03:08 PM

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have you ever gone to a late night diner, maybe pub in you case in full costume and eaten in character? i think that would be pretty amusing.
No I have not, though I have dropped by the mall in costume to pick up supplies. I however do not roleplay Laiv in public, it is bad form as it might scare those around who do not know what is going on. I might be wearing a costume in public but I am always behaving as me not my character, to roleplay at a diner would be to include everyone there in the game and that is irresponsible.

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What is Laiv??
As I explained in my previous post Laiv is when the players dress up in costume and act out the character as opposed to table top when one sit around a table and describe the character's actions instead of acting them out. Other words used are LARP, as in live action role play, live RPG and similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_ac...e-playing_game

Sistinas666 04-24-2011 03:12 PM

Kinda like in the movie Role Models?

cheebacheeba 04-24-2011 03:16 PM

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either fucking way. its fried fish (probably not even good fish)and fried potatos. i guarentee i could cook both better than you've had. like i said, there are 100 diffeerent way people cook potatos in america. where did this arguement even come from? cause the guy who cant fry up some food? i dont fuck with england period. so i will argue anything.
Sorry, I didn't realise we were in...an argument?
You said what you had to say, and I made you aware of some cultural differences in terms of how things were commonly referred to in different places.

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i guarentee i could cook both better than you've had.
That's a good one. :D

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As I explained in my previous post Laiv is when the players dress up in costume and act out the character as opposed to table top when one sit around a table and describe the character's actions instead of acting them out. Other words used are LARP, as in live action role play, live RPG and similar.
So, that would be something like d&d with costume?

Sistinas666 04-24-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba (Post 890654)
So, that would be something like d&d with costume?


I'm pretty sure she is talking about the same thing they do in the movie Role Models. You actually get into costume and fight with foam swords and shit like that. I've actually seen people do this in the parks in a near by college town. Like 50 crazy looking people going at it. Its cool/funny to watch.

BookZombie 04-24-2011 03:24 PM

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Kinda like in the movie Role Models?
I have not seen this film so I would not know.

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So, that would be something like d&d with costume?
Yes, there are many different games than D&D though, but yes in essence yes it is like D&D with costume.

ferretchucker 04-24-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Diabolical (Post 890638)
either fucking way. its fried fish (probably not even good fish)and fried potatos. i guarentee i could cook both better than you've had. like i said, there are 100 diffeerent way people cook potatos in america. where did this arguement even come from? cause the guy who cant fry up some food? i dont fuck with england period. so i will argue anything.

Slight over reaction? We were simply trying to establish the different names given to different styles of chips/fries!

As for your insinuation that just because it is a simple dish it is a poor one, food needn't have 200 steps to be delicious. So what if it's just "fried fish and fried potatoes"? I'll be surprised if you can cook better than the hundreds of dishes I've had in that style prepared by people who literally make their living from it.

As for "there are 100 diffeerent way people cook potatos in america"...are you suggesting that chips, fries and crisps are the only ways they are cooked elsewhere? Is America suddenly the pioneer of spud preparation?

Anyway, moving aside from RPG and root vegetable naming debates - I tried to replicate a McDonald's burger today. Since I started work there (yes...I know. Just...I know, okay!) I've gotten to know the subtle nuances - the proportions of each condiment, the dimensions of the meat and the fact that the buns are toasted (who knew?!).

The result?

Meh. To get the dining experience of McDonald's (not that one would often want to), you have to go to McDonald's.

Sistinas666 04-24-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 890658)
I tried to replicate a McDonald's burger today. Since I started work there (yes...I know. Just...I know, okay!) I've gotten to know the subtle nuances - the proportions of each condiment, the dimensions of the meat and the fact that the buns are toasted (who knew?!).

The result?

Meh. To get the dining experience of McDonald's (not that one would often want to), you have to go to McDonald's.


My wife can replicate the Mcdouble perfectly. I really think the secret is the onions. She soaks the dehydrated onion flakes in water for a few minutes and uses them. I friggin love them!


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