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Macarbe 09-17-2013 10:13 AM

Snuff Films Real or Fake?
 
I think they they do there are a lot of sick people out there some people just go to farr I am writing a novel about the topic hopefully it will be a killer novel

metternich1815 09-17-2013 12:32 PM

For the most part, they are a myth. With the exception of executions, soldiers getting killed, etc.there is actually no record of real snuff films (and, technically, those exceptions, as well as animal deaths are not really snuff films anyway). It is believed that the origin of the myth started with what someone said about the Manson murders, in an interview or something, of course, there were none by them found. The idea reached its height in the 1970s with a film called Snuff. The film was made (under a different title) and was quite terrible (And was performing equally terribly). Consequently, the filmmakers decided to add a scene that they claimed was a real death scene, in order to make the film more successful. The scene obviously was not a real death, but the fact that they claimed that made people want to see it. It then became a big hit. So, in short, I do not believe snuff films truly exist.

Ferox13 09-17-2013 01:02 PM

Ok I'll Bite.

It depends on the definition - what the FBI call a SNUFF movie is a murder committed on film for the sole of distribution for purpose of financial profit.

So under that definition, there has never been a Snuff Movie discovered by any Law Enforcement Agency EVER....now keep in mind EVER is a long time. Considering how much sick child porn that has been found, no one LEO has found a snuff film or no one arrested for child porn has ever tryed to pleas bargain knowledge of one.

There are a few semantic arguments but at the end of the day there is zero proof of one existing.
Is Al Goldstein offer still going?

neverending 09-17-2013 01:46 PM

Somebody find all the old threads on this topic, please...

knife_fight 09-17-2013 02:19 PM

Myth busted.
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/snuff.asp

Ferox13 09-17-2013 11:28 PM

^That article is a bit out of date.

Ferox13 09-18-2013 12:51 AM

Bump for the other Snuff thread....

Macarbe 09-18-2013 08:30 AM

I started a thread yesterday on this topic there are a lot of fakes american snuff ,snuff102/tumbling doll of flesh,etc the closet I have herd real is the child porn ring and a story a film distributor talked about were he was offered one were he thinks it was real but who knows I am sure there are some sick people out there with the money to get it done I am sure they exist very rare and private remember if you get caught life in prison you will be looked as scum by your peers in jail and the guards its not worth it I am writeing a book on the subject right know

Despare 09-18-2013 08:49 AM

Mine are

Ferox13 09-18-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macarbe (Post 956981)
I started a thread yesterday on this topic there are a lot of fakes american snuff ,snuff102/tumbling doll of flesh,etc the closet I have herd real is the child porn ring and a story a film distributor talked about were he was offered one were he thinks it was real but who knows I am sure there are some sick people out there with the money to get it done I am sure they exist very rare and private remember if you get caught life in prison you will be looked as scum by your peers in jail and the guards its not worth it I am writeing a book on the subject right know

Hopefully the spell checker you use when 'writeing' your book is real :-)

knife_fight 09-19-2013 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 956958)
^That article is a bit out of date.

Not trying to be argumentative, but why?
Is the information out of date?
Has the definition of "snuff" changed?
Have snuff films, and the market for them, actually been found?

I realize the article is from several years ago, but if the info is still accurate, it's not out of date.

Sicknero 09-19-2013 01:23 AM

I have to agree, it's all about definitions.

If "distributed for entertainment" is the criteria then there's some pretty convincing stuff on the net, and with the net being what it is it's not difficult to believe that these people are never caught.

re; Snopes article... Charlie Sheen really thought that Flowers of Flesh and Blood was real..??? What was he smoking?

Ferox13 09-19-2013 01:26 AM

^Just that there were a couple of interesting cases that aren't mentioned in it.

First - when that huge Russian Child Porn ring was busted and Dmitri Whatshisnaame arrested, early reports referred to tapes of actual child murder being discovered. These were believed to be distributed worldwide (so definably considered SNUFF). However, after the initial media coverage of t his angle it didn't seem to be mentioned again. So I am pretty sure it was a case of the overzealous media exaggerating an already horrific situation.

There is another case, though this happened before that article was last amended, it should be mentioned - there were two germans who killed a prositute on film and planned to sell it. Here's a link to a Daly Telegraph article. The article does claim that a Snuff Movie industry exists.


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