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fiend_skull 03-23-2010 12:48 PM

Remakes only bother me when its of movies that don't need remakes. Like certain movies that are so bad (the unenjoyable bad, not Plan 9 bad.) should be remade. Though I will say the Reboot (I'm not sure what the difference between that and a remake are, they just called it that) of Hellraiser, has some of my interest despite the fact that Clive Barker is not going to be directly involved with it.

GRAND INQUISITOR 04-03-2010 09:30 AM

Nightmare on elm street?
 
Is the Nightmare on Elm Street remake really nessecary?

cheebacheeba 04-03-2010 09:37 AM

Is any movie really n-e-c-e-s-s-a-r-y?
Is life?
Is existence?

GRAND INQUISITOR 04-03-2010 09:57 AM

remakes
 
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Originally Posted by newb (Post 851591)
For the most part, I see NO need for them. But every once in a while a real gem emerges from a remake.


http://www.scifi.co.uk/the%20thing.jpg

Does that incvlude the Death Race 2000 remake? reminds me of an early '80s Italian flick Fighter Centurions/Rome 2073 by Fulci but instead of cars it's a gladiatorial motorbike race in only the winner survives.

GRAND INQUISITOR 04-03-2010 10:03 AM

great faces of Eddie video!!!

VampiricClown 04-03-2010 01:08 PM

Yes, they do. For several reasons. I think they've pretty much been covered here already, by many of the members:

The younger audience, for the most part, do not appreciate the classics, nor even bother to watch them, once a remake has been created. Mostly for the reason of "it's old" or "stupid".

Another gripe, is that I personally feel that when someone does a remake, they are using someone elses idea, because they could not come up with their own. Not only that, it is marketing greed.

And why keep feeding us the same movies, every ten years? I don't eat leftovers that are ten years old, because it has a prettier arrangement on my plate. Why would I wish to pay/watch a rearrangement of a movie? I want to see something NEW.

Hollow God 04-03-2010 01:53 PM

Generally yes, I really hate remakes. I don't see the remake of Nightmare on elm st. as being necessary because the original is still relevant. It just seems lazy and unoriginal to me.

Elvis_Christ 04-04-2010 08:05 PM

They never used to bother me until recently because there's been a long run of stinkers like Last House On The Left and The Stepfather.

It's weird its become a subgenre of its own. It was a lot better when there was one every now and then not the sole output.

MisterSadistro 04-14-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fiend_skull (Post 854102)
Remakes only bother me when its of movies that don't need remakes. Like certain movies that are so bad (the unenjoyable bad, not Plan 9 bad.) should be remade.

I'm actually doing a 'Plan 9 from Outer Space' remake right now for that exact reason. The problem is they tend to cash in on the popularity of the original, but never bother to improve on them in any way. If the Hollywood system was at all interested in remaking movies, they should remake bad movies that had good ideas (like UFOs raising zombies :D ).
CK

nightmare_of _death 04-14-2010 02:41 PM

Yes, for the most part the do bother me.Some I don't mind,but some are just horrible.I thought the hills have eyes remake was okay, the second one sucked!!! I just saw the remake of Fame and it was horrible,still yet to see the original.The remake of dawn of the dead,haven't seen it and don't plan on it either.

For me I guess it all depends on the actors,directors and such,and if the trailer looks good,but sometimes....okay lots of time a trailer is misleading. It really disappoints me when they put stuff in the trailers,then you go to watch a movie and lots of the stuff in the trailer is never in the movie.

ProfondoXxRosso 04-14-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 851487)
Do Remakes REALLY bother you?

Only in the way that jellyfish or athletes foot bother me.

ChronoGrl 04-14-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfondoXxRosso (Post 856536)
Only in the way that jellyfish or athletes foot bother me.

Jellyfish bother you? Or do you enjoy athletes' foot?

Hey, it's OK, I don't judge... :cool:

newb 04-15-2010 08:19 AM

a "Nightline" take on remakes....on Hulu

http://www.hulu.com/watch/142291/abc...ke-a-bad-movie

The Krell 04-15-2010 08:30 AM

I wont even comment on the quality of the flood of remakes today.Besides,that's not even my biggest beef about them any way.Argue all you want about CONTENT,my problem with this crap is INTENT! The filmmakers,studios,,they dont give a crap about artistic vision,storytelling and such.Their INTENT is solely to grab dollars out of the hands of uninitiated horror fans.I understand of course that making money is part of any business,but I thought art came from being inspired,not merely HIRED!

milktoaste 04-15-2010 01:58 PM

If you could paint a five dollar bill, and then turn around and spend it at the store, wouldn't you? Or would you paint something creative that may only be worth $3?

newb 04-15-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milktoaste (Post 856641)
If you could paint a five dollar bill, and then turn around and spend it at the store, wouldn't you? Or would you paint something creative that may only be worth $3?

WOAH.....that's deep, dude

Deimos 04-15-2010 05:30 PM

Im ok with it as long as the film is shown the proper respect and made by a director who knows what he's doing.

neverending 04-15-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deimos (Post 856650)
Im ok with it as long as the film is shown the proper respect and made by a director who knows what he's doing.

Short term memory loss?

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...1&postcount=37

The Krell 04-15-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milktoaste (Post 856641)
If you could paint a five dollar bill, and then turn around and spend it at the store, wouldn't you? Or would you paint something creative that may only be worth $3?


Says no,while shaking head yes. :D

milktoaste 04-17-2010 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newb (Post 856642)
WOAH.....that's deep, dude

haha, don't get me wrong, I (almost) always take the creative route for a lot less than three dollars :) but then again I don't create for profit.

Berzin 04-20-2010 08:18 PM

The "Dawn of the Dead" remake was not only was respectful of the original, but it added a new texture to the zombie films-zombies that can run and have very quick reflexes.

The traditional zombie ushered in by the original "Night of the Living Dead" has fallen out of fashion, and is no longer compatible with what is currently in vogue.

It is also no longer scary.

The last couple of Romero zombie flicks felt as if they had something missing-that extra sense of panic and foreboding because of this.

Knowing you can't just walk past a zombie and they won't get you because they're too slow anymore has thrown a new twist in the genre, and has the potential to make new films of this type much more action-packed and exciting.

The Krell 04-20-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Berzin (Post 857333)
The "Dawn of the Dead" remake was not only was respectful of the original, but it added a new texture to the zombie films-zombies that can run and have very quick reflexes.
Knowing you can't just walk past a zombie and they won't get you because they're too slow anymore has thrown a new twist in the genre, and has the potential to make new films of this type much more action-packed and exciting.

Hmmm..I'm sure there are earlier examples of fast zombies than the DOTD remake.One that comes to mind for me is Return of the Living Dead.Check out that parking lot scene.Those undead suckers can move!Send more paramedics!

milktoaste 04-21-2010 09:56 AM

I guess what bothers me the most about many remakes-not all- is how different they are from the original. Take for instance DOTD, all they had in common was the fact they were trapped in a mall. Come up with an original title and call it an homage.

Berzin 04-22-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Krell (Post 857345)
Hmmm..I'm sure there are earlier examples of fast zombies than the DOTD remake.One that comes to mind for me is Return of the Living Dead.Check out that parking lot scene.Those undead suckers can move!Send more paramedics!

"28 Days Later" is a better example, but regardless I try to keep to films that aren't schlocky or try to be funny when they're not.

The Krell 04-22-2010 11:16 AM

28 days Later is actually a terrible example.The people in that film contract a rage virus.They are not zombies.If you don't care for Return of the Living Dead we are clearly entertained by very different films.

Berzin 04-22-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Krell (Post 857653)
28 days Later is actually a terrible example.The people in that film contract a rage virus.They are not zombies. If you don't care for Return of the Living Dead we are clearly entertained by very different films.

Is this the movie you're talking about? If so, then I totally agree we are entertained by different films.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wylpeAXYcBQ

By the way, I used "28 Days Later" to illustrate a point. Regardless of whether it's a virus or whatever, the premise of having the infected and/or undead chasing their victims at high speeds is what I was referring to.

Berzin 04-22-2010 09:14 PM

Double post.

Mods please delete.

The Krell 04-23-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Berzin (Post 857789)
Is this the movie you're talking about? If so, then I totally agree we are entertained by different films.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wylpeAXYcBQ

By the way, I used "28 Days Later" to illustrate a point. Regardless of whether it's a virus or whatever, the premise of having the infected and/or undead chasing their victims at high speeds is what I was referring to.

Yep.That's the one.I love that movie.To each their own of course.That's one of the pleasures of this type of forum.

Ok I get ya on 28 days later.Still that leaves even more earlier movies than the DOTD remake which feature fast Zombies/infected persons.With that as your criteria The Crazies,Shivers and countless others preceded DOTD with the quickness...which of course was my original point.

Ghoulie Newmar 04-25-2010 12:30 PM

there have been some good remakes( last house on the left,dawn of the dead) but most are utter shit that didnt need to be made. i have read many a good book that would make a great film such as "sins of the flesh" by don and jay davis...and more koontz stories than i could mention have yet to be made..."lightning" would make a incredible movie as would "darkfall".

*sigh*

Cloudyskiez 05-05-2010 07:08 PM

Personally, I dislike most remakes. In all honesty. But, even though I don't personally enjoy them, I feel that remakes of, for say, Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street make it possible for people who don't feel like watching the originals the chance to get into the movies, and then maybe get into the originals. If that makes sense. ;)

Karayamidragon 05-25-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloudyskiez (Post 859552)
Personally, I dislike most remakes. In all honesty. But, even though I don't personally enjoy them, I feel that remakes of, for say, Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street make it possible for people who don't feel like watching the originals the chance to get into the movies, and then maybe get into the originals. If that makes sense. ;)

yes that makes sense. i hate that too. i hate it when people are to lazy to make up new movies and just take old ones and redo them and sometimes make them suck. like some of the return of the living dead ones. there have been some that have sucked big time

ZombieSlasher 05-28-2010 04:10 AM

Well, for the slasher movies it's impossible not to do a remake. They can't make a sequel because the series has already been ruined with the 80's and 90's, so they want to still see these characters on the screen.

For example, "Halloween" is an amazing series (however the last 2 of them lacked creativity). How many times can we watch this guy die? It stops getting scary, so they need to revamp them!

I'm all for the idea of remakes, but not the remakes themselves.

Ferox13 05-28-2010 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Karayamidragon (Post 862080)
i hate it when people are to lazy to make up new movies and just take old ones and redo them and sometimes make them suck.

Do you really think that that the reason remakes are so popular is because ' people are to lazy to make up new movies '?

fuglystick 05-28-2010 10:25 AM

The Crazies remake was pretty solid.

TypH 05-29-2010 08:35 AM

I thought the Crazies & My Bloody Valentine remakes were both good.

My problem with remakes I personally don't think they ever should rushed, an I think when getting writers/directors/producers they should try an find someone who was actually a fan of the original an not just doing it for the big bucks Hollywood willing to put out for it.

Yeah sure maybe some of the people that work on the remakes are fans of the original I don't know but if they were fans you would think they would work harder to try an out do the original instead of taking the easy way out an making a shit ass remake but thats just me.


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