You are assuming that he didn't, we are not told anything; although I presume that at some point he did know where she was - Friday 2, he has her head.

I think Friday 2 is where the explanation is needed.

When the remake of the original gets done, perhaps we'll find out. (Unless they change the whole story- I read that Jason will feature more heavily in this one and he will have a mask!)

well i'm not really assusming that he didn't go to her, she killed the people at the camp cause he was dead, if he'd gone to her she'd know he wasn't dead and not killed them.

Good point. :o

Which means there wouldn't have been the need for Friday the 13th!

Can't think of any answers for that at all. :( :(

i can't either that's my point. it's a major stoyline flaw.

Part 5 is awesome in every way.

(no sarcasm). Seriously.


BOO HOO. jason wasnt the real killer..boo hoo.


It was still kick ass.
Best lines in the WHOLE series.
Most Kills
Shitload of memorable characters.
Bad ass AXE scene


whats the big deal.
I bet you if this movie came out with another name, people wouldnt be so hard on it.

why was he not the real killer?!? WTF!?!? i haven't seen that yet!!! why, when, how could they do this?

Why do you realy care, It's only been out for 20 odd years and you haven't watched it, so I don't think your opinion on the matter is to important.

perhaps because i just watched 1-4 last week and haven't picked up the rest to watch yet but i plan to. and perhaps because 20 odd years ago i was 6 and only cared about cabbage patch kids not horror movies. who are you to decide why people should or should not care or to decide that one's opinion doesn't matter.

I'm just saying that if you realy gave a hoot you would have watched it by now. I watched it when I was 7.

I think you said you've seen the first 4. The end of part 4 gives a sort of clue!

I think that the producers wanted to go for a new direction in the series as the end of 5 hints at, but the audience weren't having any of it. Some people consider it to be a dream.

But the "real" Jason and Tommy, re-appear again, in Part 6, appropriately titled "Jason Lives." My personal fave. - Here he is a lot stronger and seemingly indestructible, and there are nice touches of (dark) humour throughout.

i still dont see how people like 6.

I really need to sit down and watch it again.

I beleive it to be the worst.

like i said, i give a hoot because i JUST watched 1-4 and have not found 5 yet. and again whether or not i should give a hoot is really none of your concern. just because i didn't watch them when they came out doesn't mean i can't care now.

well...
 

i like 5 because i'm a huge fan of the series but yeah it's deffinately the worste. 6 however rocks house. he gets much tougher in it and dominates!

I never said I was concerned, But if you don't want people to respond to your posts then why post on a public forrum?

Why don't you just watch the damn movie!

You have good taste in F13 films, I also think #6 is the worst (though I havent seen 9-10 yet)

Part 5: A New Beginning
Last night I saw it. I really enjoyed it... even more than THE FINAL CHAPTER or most other parts! I think the idea was good....it brought a new/different taste to the series instead of those same old Jason's stuffs! and overall this film was well made than the part 4,8 & 9.
I have'nt seen the part 3 & 7 yet and tonight for the first time I'm going to watch the part 6: Jason Lives. Let's c....how it goes.:)

Not and Not. ;)

Franchise Discussion: Friday the 13th
 

As of last night, Ive finally completed the Friday the 13th franchise. Now, how about some nice friendly discussion?

Im sure that most any horror fan would enjoy at least one or two of the films in the series, because even if you dont like one installment you just need to wait for another sequel or two and it'll go in a whole new direction. Sometimes this is an improvement...other times it's not.

So what are everyone's favourite films in this infamous series? What were your favourite kills? Did you prefer the series when it tried to be somewhat serious, or once it got intentionally cheesy?

Personally, here's how I would rank the series from best to weakest:

Part III
Friday the 13th (Original)
Part II
Jason Goes to Hell
Part V: A New Beginning
Jason Takes Manhattan
Part IV: The Final Chapter

Jason X

Part VII: The New Blood
Part VI: Jason Lives

I really enjoyed all of them up until that first space. Jason X was decent and really fun in places, but not on par with the rest of the series. "New Blood" and "Jason Lives" were just garbage, though "Jason Lives" was by far the worst.

I know Jason Takes Manhattan gets alot of shit, but I thought it was alot of fun. It dropped most of the intentional comedy that was spawned by "Jason Lives", and despite its somewhat far-fetched plot it made a Hell of alot more sence than "The New Blood". It knew that the series was too far-gone to save, so it took that into account and didnt take itself to serious. Just serious enough to make a really fun little slasher flick, no more no less and not nearly as overthetop as "Jason Lives".

Note: I left Freddy vs Jason off the list because, to me, it was more of a Nightmare on Elm Street flick than a Friday the 13th installment. Jason was there of course, but it didnt really have the "feel" of F13. If I had to include it, it would probably go between "A New Beginning" and "Jason Takes Manhattan"

Thoughts?

Ch-ch-ch-ah-ah-ah.

Wha?! To me, excluding Jason X, 'Manhattan' had the most intentional humor.

I will defend 'Part VI' to the end. It brought back the campy, low-budge horror that 'Part III' had. Yes, it had some intentional humor, but it was intentional cheezy humor, and it knew that. To me, this is the second best in the series, because it's absolutely the least serious/ most fun, and the last with that campy "backwoods summercamp" with no other sub-plot gone-too-far feel that the series had. From then on it went to a Carrie rip-off "match-off", an overly 80s New York City rampage, and space. It was the last breath in the series if you ask me.

That being said, 'Part III' is without a doubt the best of the series. It's so damn fun, and what some view as its fault, I view as a triumph. Instead of concentrating on a storyline, it only concentrates on bad 3-D effects, which brings the tone of the film to a much more enjoyable level, instead of trying to outdo its previous installment.

What does that...mean, exactly...?

I know what you mean. You have to take them with a pinch of salt, then you can enjoy them for what they are.

Oh yes, absolutely. By no means are any of them good movies. But they were made for the sole purpose of enjoyment (with the exception of 'X'), and enjoyed them we have.

there was a time i enjoyed them ..but now i find them to be unwatchable ..

no 'headlining monster' can survive over exposure.

With the exception of X?

Now, the way I see it, X was made for pure enjoyment more than any other installment. The plot was so far over-the-top that it was impossible to take serious, and from there they just has fun with some clichés, some CGI and plenty of fake blood. Should have turned out better, but could have been a whole lot worse.

I'll agree with you that "Jason Lives" had a good idea with bringing back the "campy, low-budge(t) horror" of Part III. My problem with it was that it took the idea way too far. Instead of being a fun, campy slasher like Part III, it tried to hard to advance the concept and fell on its ass: It turned more into a spoof than a sequel, and I couldnt enjoy it at all.

I actually typed that out wrong. I meant that I enjoyed all of the franchise except 'X', not that all of them were made for enjoyment except 'X'.



This I don't understand. Are you saying that 'Jason Lives' tried to hard to advance a concept and fell on its ass, but Parts 7, 8, and 'X' didn't?

If you ask me, ressurecting Jason and having him wreak havoc in the woods (and not for the first time) is a far less extreme plot than facing him off with a psychic girl with telekinetic powers or freezing him and taking him into space, where, by chance, he gets shoved right into some futuristic device that turns him into something reminiscent of a Transformer.

Wouldnt they have to "slurp" runny shit? Unless they were using a straw, then I guess they could suck. Sucking is usually done on more solid things than liquid I believe.

Its not the plot that bugs me, it's the execution. You're right, the plot isnt farfetched in the least, however the way that it is presented goes way overboard. Everything from the script to the chatacters to the cimematography is comic-book styled cheese. It could have worked, but it was just too smug for its own good. Breaking the fourth wall can be really effective on the rare, reare occasion that it's done well and fits the movie, but here when the actor playing Tommy looks at the camera, it's as though he's saying "How the hell did I get stuck in this?". It's almost as though he realised how pathetic the joke was, and was apologizing to the audience.

Jason X took the same basic idea, but made it more subtle. They made it seem like it was to be taken seriously, which is why so many people think its crap. Its tounge was just as firmly planted in its cheek, but it didnt wink quite so much as "Jason Lives".

Would anyone here have sexual relations with a female robot/computer thing if you lived on a spaceship?

In futurama they showed that having such relationships with robots would lead to the destruction of mankind...Still, that Lucy Liu-Bot was almost worth that.

1. Friday the 13th
2. Friday the 13th 4
3. Friday the 13th 3
4. Friday the 13th 2
5. Friday the 13th 5
6. Jason x
7. Friday the 13th 6
8. Friday the 13th 7
9. Friday the 13th 8
10. Jason goes to Hell


The first five are great.:D

I do see your point...I guess it all comes down to a matter of opinion. I guess if I'm going to watch a Friday the 13th movie, my brain will be turned off, so I enjoy the "out there in front of me" rediculous humor more than 'X''s subtle rediculous humor.

Jason X was mos def the worst f13 i've ever seen!

Do you guys like Friday the 13th or Friday the 13th Part II better?

Errrm...I think Part II.

Going on expand on that for us? What didnt you like?


The original, though they really can be considered two parts to one movie (ala Kill Bill)

No...Jason Takes Manhattan is definitely THE WORST...You haven't seen it? :p

Ah yes, for sure.

I like slashers and giallo better than monster flicks.

The first five Friday the 13th films are slashers.The last five are monster films.
The way they made Friday the 13th part 5,it reminds me of a giallo.

You know, that's an interesting point.

The first 5 do have a kind of light giallo feel to them.

i love this series. It was a fun 80s cash cow that prolly hung around too long for alot of peoples liking, and thats fine with me, I'd rather it that way. Part 8 is one of my faves, at least it comes at it a little differently. Jason X is the only one I havent seen. I think the first one is put way too high on a pedestal and I also think it's nowhere near suspenseful enough to have the killer off-screen for most of the movie (if i want to watch a scary slasher flick ill watch black xmas). Of course you cant bag on the first one too much ,since it does have Bacon and without the first one thered be no other ones. I personally like this series a bit better than Nightmare on Elm St. although the premise of NOES allows for more creative kills, although they sometimes dont make alot of sense. Then again most "modern" horror movies don't.