Why am I not surprised at all? ;)

Thanks for the nomination, NE!

I would be honored to assist in the judging, but there are still so many movies that I have yet to see.

Also, I think that picking "Top 100 Asian Horror Movies" is tough. Just like any Western set of horror movies, there are just as many Asian additions to the sub-genres of horror - I'm not sure that "Asian" should be considered a sub-genre.

See, I would have to argue with you here. I think that Oldboy and Lady Vengeance most certainly qualify for horror. With Oldboy, Park is exploring Gothic Horror (dickensian horror) to its extremities. It's horrifying. It's pulp. And it's iconic. It's the struggle of the human condition against itself and against all odds. And there are certain twists in the film that are honestly horrifying.

It's the same argument that Doc uses for Ichi - It's as much psychological horror as it is pulp action. I would definitely consider Oldboy horror.

That is why the topic will be open for discussion once the deadline for submitting lists is over.

I have received 3 small lists from Ferretchucker, bwind & scouse mac, and a slightly longer one from NeverEnding so far. Also, I have made my own list of recs of about 60-odd flicks for this compilation. Awaiting more entries from all the gurus of Asian and J-Horror in HDC right now.

You know what? I deserve no title of judge. I've been Googling "Top/Best Asian Horror" to refresh my memory, and there are a SCORE of movies that I haven't even SEEN that keep appearing on these lists:

• Pulse (Kairo)
• Kwaidan
• Onibaba
• Ringu
• Cure
• Suicide Club
• Rahtree: Flower of the Night
• Chinese Ghost Story
• Uzumaki
• Versus
• Evil Dead Trap
• Entrails of a Virgin
• Dark Water

I have not seen all of the movies mentioned, but because they are two of my favorites and I am well familiar with them, I submit "A Chinese Ghost Story" ("Sien nui yau wan," and it's actually from 1987, my mistake) and "Mad Doctor of Blood Island" with a strong vote of personal approval, and I'd be happy to review both of them if blurbs are needed.

Though there's always been an argument that Park's Vengeance trilogy shouldn't be consider or tagged into Horror genre rather than should grouped as a revenge flick but I'm here also like to agree with Chrono besides the fact that we are actually huge fan of the trilogy:D.
I think the way Park leveled the 'revenge' issue in this films could be marked as the worst nightmare for any human being for example how about the most disturbing twist of Oldboy? How could a man bear that kinda shocking & horrifying truth for the rest of his life? Besides the unique storyline with convincing amount of gore & torture parts the viewers here also confronting the moral dilemma of the characters & situations in a horrified way that can even able to left an impact for a long time. Same thing goes for Mr. and Lady Vengeance also.

Now, what about Memories of Murder? Like David Fincher's Zodiac it was also based on true events of serial killings by a murderer who never get caught, and it's also not a typical serial killer movie..more than that. Instead of focusing on the murder scenes and shocking images like most conventional serial killer films, the movie puts much more time and details into the story, its characters and the situation of the time the incidents took place. If we can categorized Zodiac as Horror then why not Memories of Murder? To some extent personally I feel MOM is more compelling and chilling than Zodiac.

My another consideration goes for Battle Royale as a survival horror which I believe is easily going to secure a place in the top 10!

I like to add the following films with chrono's list:

• A page of madness (1926)
• Song at the night (1937)
• Ugestu Mongatari (1953)
• Jigoku (1960)
• Matango (1963)
• Woman in the Dunes (1964)
• A Chinese ghost story (1987)
• Untold story (1993)
• 301-302 (1995)
• Perfect Blue (1998)
• Tell me something (1999)
• The Echo (2004)

So the thing Chrono said same applied for me also. But right now watching Onibaba at youtube (already completed 6 out of 11 parts!) and will watch Kairo next!:)

I think "The Host" should be included.

All of those will be on my list for sure (well, I'll have to watch Cure and H again to make sure they're both deserving as I remember them being very similar) and you need to check them out Chrono. Ringu was ok but it's a landmark film so I can see it being included.

It will be on my list as well, one of the best creature features to come from the East in quite some time.

1. Ju-on
2. A tale of two sisters
3. Kairo
4. One missed call
5. Re-cycle
6. Uzumaki
7. Ringu
8. Reincarnation
9. Ju-on: the grudge 2
10. Shutter
11. Imprint
12. Audition
13. Vampire hunter D: bloodlust
14. The host
15. Suicide club
16. The eye
17. Inner senses
18. Ichi the killer
19. Sisily 2km
20. Dark water
21. R-point
22. Save the green planet
23. Ghost actress
24. The dollmaster
25. Ghost tunnel
26. Three... extremes 2
27. We're going to eat you
28. Haunted school
29. ringu 0
30. Ju-on: the grudge
31. ringu 2

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Worth mentioning:

1. Spirited away (not really horror, but it contains lots of ghosts and monsters)
2. Tomie - rebirth (not a fan of the Tomie franchise, but Takashi Shimizu's contribution is by far the best in the series, imho)
3. Bhoot (interesting because it's Indian and because of some very good performances by the lead actor and the guy playing the cop)
4. Kwaidan (just because it's a classic)
5. Wild Zero (Cult)
6. Sairen (Because it's better than the games) :D

I found R-Point a bit boring, maybe what I had read built it up a little to much.

Thought the pacing was a bit higher than the usual asian ghost movies.

I guess we disagree then.

agreed................

I disagree and tend to lean more toward Angra's side. It wasn't the pacing that hurt the film and the atmosphere was brilliant, if anything should deduct points from this one it would have to be the writing and acting which was sub-par IMO. It will be on my list as it's a great Asian ghost story but it's not my favorite.

agreed...............

I really need to check them out - It's been a while since I've done an Asian horror marathon, so maybe I'll just throw those up toward the top of my queue.

Any of those your personal favorites more than the others?

Where's Godzilla?! :eek:

Of those movies - Most of the ones (that I've seen) made it onto the list I sent over to V.

The ones I've seen that I omitted, I find pretty overrated:

• A tale of two sisters
• Re-cycle
• The eye
• Ju-on: the grudge 2
• ringu 0

Seriously - What's so great about Ju-on 2? It was SO ridiculously low-budget it drove me crazy. I felt as though he had NO money and just threw together everything he had (which wasn't much) just to capitalize on Ju-on's fame.

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I know that question was asked, but I think that Paprika should belong on this list.

omg...then what else you have put into the list?:rolleyes:

I think it'll be really a bit tough & interesting job to finally compile the list of 100!

Oh yeah...and for sheer off-the-wall audacity, "Wild Zero" gets a vote from me...crazy flick.

"Tsui Hark's Vampire Hunters," that one also is fun, nowhere near as good as "Chinese Ghost Story," but a decent vampire romp with some fairly intense vampires.

Both are included under your entry, crabby. And if they secure a place in the final 100 you will have to write the blurbs.

Noted too.


Wonderful list, Angra. Keep thinking of more. I am a bit skeptical of Bhoot though. It isnt exactly THE best Indian horror flick, and the premise was essentially a re-hash of an episode of a horror series on Indian television awhile back.

I have received quite a nice list from Chrono too. Good job, woman! Keep thinking of more.

I think this will be a Top 100 which will always be open to discussion and future updates, if possible. Although I feel pretty confident in saying that the 100 finalised from the recs now will possibly stay for a long time.

I am waiting for plenty more lists - especially from Despare, Flayed, Urge, Zwoti, Manchestr and everyone else who is into Asian horror.

My list, though I will admit to being no expert. In really no particular order:
Gojira
Perfect Blue
Paprika
Silk
Kwaidan
Godzilla versus Hedorah (the most horrorcentric of Godzilla movies, very Lovecraftian)
Matango
Frankenstein Conquers the World
Ichi the Killer
MPD Psycho (I know it's a miniseries, but I think it deserves a spot)
Ninja Scroll
Terrifying Girl's High School Lynch Law Classroom
Female Yakuza: Inquisition and Torture
Suicide Club
Zeiram (so bad it's awesome)
The Bride With White Hair
Audition
Rashomon
Ju-On
Tetsuo:the Iron Man
Yog:Monster from Space
Ghidrah the three headed Monster
The H Man
The Green Slime
The Host

r-point was ok, the guardpost was better.

:p:p:p:p:p

so much fun

This is what I sent over to V:

Godzilla
The Host
Audition
Three... Extremes
Three... Extremes II
Oldboy
Lady Vengeance
Ju-On (The Grudge)
Rinne (Reincarnation)
Shutter
Ichi the Killer
Battle Royale
Gozu
Tokyo Gore Police
One Missed Call
Matango (Attack of the Mushroom People)
Xte: Hair Extensions
The Maid
Imprint
Tetsuo
The Red Shoes
Bio-Zombie
Paprika

Very underappreciated Toho gem.

I own this and STILL haven't seen it - Maybe I'll pop it in tonight.


V - Thanks for this thread - I am getting SO many recommendations!!!

Don't try it in a sitting. There's a chance your brain will eat itself. You might want to go two episodes at a time.

so it this horror & exploitation or has it expanded yet?



my list is at 80 and counting so far....

Why are Oldboy and Lady Vengeance on the list???

First off, Godzilla sucks.


Second, funny you should mention the low budget for Ju-on the grudge 2, coz as i see it it's the ju-on movie with the biggest budget and the best effects. I also liked a lot of Shimizu's ideas in this one, especially because they seemed new and original and not JUST rehash, as i thought was the case with his former 2 ju-on movies.

Yes, maybe the story itself was a little weak, but then again, the story is pretty much the same in all the ju-on and Grudge movies. I watch them for Shimizus creative mind.

I have 61 so far, but almost all of it is horror.

Think we need to give some space for horror/exploitation to accomodate Tetsuo, Ichi and other related flicks.

I d like to hear what others say on this. Of course, I m still very much in doubt regarding Oldboy. Where do we actually draw the line here?

I really don't see why Oldboy should be on the list?

Sure it's one of the best aisan movies out there, but it's no way near horror.

The same can be said about Lady Vengeance i'm sure.




Another Anime i'd like to add is "Fist of the north star". Because it's grotesquely violent and bloody. And quite good actually.

Oh, now just wait one gosh-darned second. Godzilla is awesome!

*AHEM*

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You can't deny Godzilla's status of influential monster movie icon.


Then why the hell did it look like ass?

I don't think that it looked any higher budget than the first one. I thought that the ghosts and special effects looked painfully cheap and tacky where in the first one and in Rinne I thought that the ghosts and folly work were both brilliantly well-done.

Ju-on 2 was just painful to watch.

Ju-On 2 is needlessly slow. It has only one redeeming scene. As for Godzilla...well, you know my sentiments on that. The original is one of the best films about the horrors of war ever made and the others create a world of fantasy and bizarre action that you can't get anywhere else. Most of them do not have strong horror elements, but Godzilla versus Hedorah features sentient space garbage that melts people, a Lovecraftian filth god that threatens to absorb the earth. It's awesome, surreal and has one great monster.

Godzilla is great. Part of its charm is its awfulness.

You do know we're talking about Ju-on: the grudge 2 and not Ju-on 2, right?

Your arguments stinks.

If we look at it like that EVERY movie is a horror movie in one way or another.


And how can we argue about Ichi? That movie is gory and gross as hell. Of course THAT's a horror movie.

I have made a temporary list of 32 films that I have seen so far but there may be some adjustments (add/remove) before sending it to V.

I'm not sure whether it'd worth or not but will it be okay to make another list for recommendation (that I haven't seen yet!) based on the high ratings & positive reviews from different viewers & movie sites?

Oldboy is called a "bizarre, powerful and fucked up" thriller, and a part of The Vengeance trilogy of Chan Wook Park. I dont see it listed under horror anywhere.

But if we are leaving the window open by including Se7en and other similar thrillers under the genre's broad definition, Oldboy stakes a claim too.

So...what will it be?