Why can't we assume this mystery DP was a complete waste of space and air, and that he would piss anyone of us off. I've met plenty of people who just plain bring out the worste in others. Everyone can assume Christian Bale is some smug asshole who is 'not committed to their art or craft', but I think the DP should have brought his A game if his job was that important to him. If someone were screw up in the same way twice in one day on my job sight, you can beleive I'd chew his ass so everyone could hear me. It might be 'mean', but it get's the message out to everybody else who might be slacking. People do that kind of thing so it doesn't happen again.

Because that would be stupid and ill informed?
I mean, you'd know about that right...all certain he had completely just cause and all...?
Again, I think most people in here are against the approach...nobody's arguing that what the guy did wouldn't have pissed Bale and probably others off too...the point is, he conducted himself like an obnoxious twat.

Or yknow...learn to properly communicate with your staff, and get better results through morale, rather than disgruntled people wanting to stab you in the face?
Maybe if you worked in a construction site or a factory, and maybe in the 80's that'd fly straight, but I'd say these days most people would just call you an asshole.

Ya, I've been called that, more than a few times. I only asked why we couldn't assume this DP's worthlessness, is because so far eveyone's assuming his worthiness. I'm going to assume he is a Union member. And if you've ever worked along side them, you'd know occasionally you'll run into one who needs a fire lit up under his ass. If Bale really wanted him fired, yes he could've kept his cool and filed a complaint. But that wouldn't have been as entertaining.
Better results though 'morale', please.

That's true- I'm sure Bale was trying to be hilarious and improve morale.

Oh wait- he has anger management issues and flipped shit.

Trying to improve someones morale almost never helps you get things done. If someone shows up on a million dollar movie set, without the right morale to begin with, why should any be as PC as possible to try and improve it? And frankly, a simple 'I'm sorry I was just looking at my lights', doesn't seem to cut it. I don't care what field or time, construction or factory, 1980 or 2009, if the little guy wants to make it, he shouldn't be screwing around. Wether anyone will like this movie or not, the 'Light Guy' needs to realise his place, he was a 'small fish in a big pond' so to say.

Back on point, ya you're right, C.B. probably has some deep seeded issues, but I like him all the more for them.

Wrong. Especially in hollywood, which isn't a business but more of a club. Making everyone's job easier is everyone's job regardless of your job. It is a simple matter of respect, which seems to be an endangered species these days.

have you spoke with him since? if so, whats his response to this?

Yeah, I think you're wrong there...I mean no offense, but it seems like from what you're saying you might not have truly given it a shot.
It's not about one-on-ones, it's about treating the people you work with (even though they may not be) as remotely equal, with civility...and yeah, it's known to yield better results in any given situation. Mediation over open conflict, it's not just new age bullshit, it's evolution.
We can go in circles about it but it looks like we'd just disagree anyways...bottom line on my end is, even without a full understanding of the situation on both or either side, it was over the top and ended up a rant for rants sake, kind of very "look at me".

I agree completely. have some self respect... that's what you get for WANTING to be part of hollywood's bullshit.

poor guy, I hope one day he at least gets to live his dream of lighting coca cola commercials.

Well, I don't disbelieve you at all, but apparently someone disagrees....

From another board I post at:




Grain of salt and all that....just saying for the sake of discussion. ;)

-D

Might want to edit that last quote, bud, because it has some very huge spoilers and can be grossly impactful to the movie's chances at the BO and with the fans.

Stephen Colbert had a funny spoof on the whole Christian Bale eruption last night on his show. Steve Martin takes on the role on of the guy getting his ass chewed out. Funny stuff.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...s-steve-martin

Fucking hilarious, i love Colbert.

So we're supposed to take these uncited sources from another internet board as reason enough to disregard this DP? Look- you're doing to him what you say we're doing to Bale- the only difference is that in the cold hard proof this DP is beeing agreeably unagressive and apologetic and Bale is screaming.

LMAO!

NICE

I think you just made my day.

Excuse me, but what part of "Grain of salt" do you not understand? I know that Roderick writes movies...I "sort of know" the guy that posted this (meaning, I know he "works in the movie industry somewhere") and thought it would be fun to post. I didn't post his name or the board, because I don't think its necessary to bring him into it.

It was for the sake of discussion, as I clearly stated.

(oh yeah, and sorry about those spoilers, I edited it accordingly)

-D

They're both people, people not only can act like assholes but can get worked up over stupid shit, are you all really surprised people act like this sometimes? Damn, maybe I'm the only one who has went off on somebody for a stupid reason or done something silly to piss somebody off that led to a long argument.

Would anybody care if I freaked out over something and yelled at someone who gets paid to do his job competently?

Didnt think so.

Crap, You can't watch that link in the U.K, I will try find it on youtube.

I'd want a video of it.

Remind me to have a cameraman nearby next time something like that happens.

I'm pretty sure if you went as far as he did people would be pretty worried about your mental state. It's not the shouting that annoys people, it's how long he shouted and how far he went, becoming pretty much the typical prima donna celebrity. He could have just done another take. They had time.

i've never dont this to anyone - at work or in private.

if someone did it to me in this way - in front of other people... i'd be facing charges and the other guy would be facing a few painful months in the dentists chair.


then again - it wouldnt have gotten past the first couple of seconds..

Not to this extreme or for this length of time (because you're not a Hollywood diva) but you've never went off on anybody? I used to go off a LOT when I was younger (for a few different reasons), I can remember lots of yelling at people in high school that's for sure.

Devil's advocate here, I swear...;)
But you are trying to say that the answer to problem of someone yelling at you is to punch them? That isn't really the best way to handle it either, and in fact would make you worse than the person yelling.

;)

-D

That's weird 'cause I can watch it fine.

Americans prefer the French to Brits??

Curiouser and curiouser...

Well the Brits certainly don't prefer the French to Americans... :D

No shit. ;)

More hits for TMZ....
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/audio/020609_bale-mp4.mp4

Awww....well this should make some happy.

-D

yeah yeah yeah .....


Someone isnt 'yelling'

some bitch in a 'position of authority' is abusing a professional working relationship by trying to crap on me in front of my peers that way. its demeaning, disrespectful and abusive. something usually only done by someone who figures their status will let them get away with it. time for a reality check.

actually hit ..no probably not just like that... - i've got more control than that - i'd only threaten to do it... a warning. but i'd probably have the front of his shirt at the throat bunched up in my fist if he kept going after that.

after that its his choice - i dont give a fuck if that makes me worse.

no - never. I've never yelled at anyone.

i had a few fights as a kid but i was protecting myself - i didnt start them.

I raised my voice at someone a little - at work when i was burned out badly one time ... but i didnt swear or carry on and i apoligized immediately after.

i never had a temper unless i was REALLY pushed ... and if i was pushed that far - there was no yelling and swearing....

i'd usually just punch and break something when no one was around.

won all my fights though - except a couple when i went nuts on guys way bigger than me - (as i said before - if i was pushed really hard)


i never cared how big the fucker was of how bad i was getting beaten either ... i juist kept coming like an idiot :)


when i became 'the big guy' i never fought....




but anyway - thats kids VS grown adults in a professional environment - 2 entirely different things

The beauty of Canada. Polite and Considerate.

Like I said before, I have no idea why this is a big deal.

because women yell like maniacs at the slightest provocation ... no biggie - its just a thang...

like my wife does :)




(i just walk out of the room)

This is all I was trying to say in the first place. I think it's cool that Bale is being a stand-up kinda guy and apologizing in public and stuff, but geez....

"OMG SOMEONE YELLED AT SOMEONE!"

It's just not that big of a drama to me. Someone in this thread said something along the lines of their opinion of him starts and ends with his movies....that's pretty much where I stand. I could care less if he's a dick and DIDN'T apologize. He makes movies that I enjoy...but you know what there are a lot of actors out there who are notoriously big assholes, moreso than Bale.

Speaking of which....Orson Welles was a lot more sophisicated at being a dick, but he was still a dick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcYCccE9ziU

where do you work ? a record store owned by a guy ? KFC ?

that would be a firing offence anyplace i've ever worked. no exceptions.

you think that was just 'yelling' ?
he threatened to have him fired.

It was out of line, I don't disagree with that.
But you should listen to the link I posted where he apologized on the radio. He, himself, makes a lot of points that I have been saying.

The fact is, this isn't KFC...it's a private set.
And I work in video games, which is still just an office setting when you break it down. I've seen, been involved in, and experienced similar outbursts against me, though admittedly not as lengthy.

It's just not something to get worked up about, imo....especially to those not involved.

-D

I guess I've just become overly accustomed to working with a-holes. Generaly when I am witness to someone's 'breakdown', I find it halarious to snicker and point at whoever set off the 'breakdownee'. Sometimes I like to even throw in an agreeing,"Ya!" or,"You tell him!" But then nobody cares when people freak out at my job.

Normally I can't stand this douchebag, but someone sent me this link and I got a good laugh out of it:

http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-05-perez-bales-out