Highly subjective to one's perceptions, of course.

David Lynch made such aspects of Eraserhead acceptable though his enticing surreal vision, high on atmosphere and visual provocation.

(Un Chien Andalou).

Likewise, Lucio Fulci 'gets away with' inexplicable contrivances and spontaneous plot shifts - partly because The Beyond is a 'Fulci film', and partly because his work is quintessential 80s Italian gore also loaded with atmosphere and visual provocation.

It's horses for courses - many find The Beyond inoffensive in its loose plotting, yet decide some of Lynch and Takashi Miike's work is pretentious and baffling.

thats pretty funny because as a younger fella i was head over heals in love with eurotrash .. video had just been made available and i ate up every single horror film i could get my hands on .. 100s of movies i'd have never gotten exposure to before coming from a small canadian town.

i dubbed everything .. no matter how obscure or small budget .. and this is where my love for the italian zombie films started..

i still like a lot of them .. and i still have a huge soft spot for the genre but i've never found fulci to be that great... i didnt much like zombi2 (or whatever its called wherever) except for a couple of scenes ,, and i'm past the point where a couple of cool gore scenes will carry a movie for me ..

eraserhead, chien andalou .. these were crazy films .. drug induced nightmares .. to me - whereas i found the beyond to be a patchwork quilt of 'lets do this .. lets do that - this will look cool ... just a series if unrelated shorts clumbsily fashioned into some semblance of a complete piece ..

maybe if that attemp hadnt been made i'd like it better . i dunno ... there was so much that i thought was just plain stupid .. (the woman in the morgue who somehow got melted even though she was nowhere near the goop that spilled to melt her ..)

the water dripping from the toip of the basement wall (the water line was 3 feet below that at least ...
i know that gets to sound like nit picking very fast ... but i could go on for 30 other points ...

it doesnt have to flow or make sense .. i just didnt find any of the imagry that interesting ... until the very end i guess .. ("walking into the painting") .. i like a bleak ending ..

its just that i never gave a shit about what would happen to anyone in the movie .. or why, or how ...

explaining it to this extent sounds petty i guess .. i know that ... better to say it just didnt hit me . it was the wrong timing for me ..


(story of ricky ... theres some crazy shit i loved)

Strange words coming from someone who often calls out the evils of watching movies with high expectations.

yep, but i never said it didnt happen to me !

got bit right on the ass

It's all a bit Beyond me.

try a different gate :D

I won't shut the fuck up asshole. Ok I'm not saying bitchs to woman just the hookers fuck head. And about those bitchs I was talking about ny ripper. If you offened about me saying hookers are bitchs then to fucking bad. :mad:

My mother's a hooker, but if I ever called her a bitch I'd better run goddammit.

:eek:

That's funny, cause my mom's a bitch, but if I ever called her a hooker, I'd better scram fast!

Whatever fine by me. Carry on with your retarded posts and look like a moronic fuckwit with the grammar skills of a pile of dogshit.

Hey faggot if you don't like me calling hookers bitchs then to fucking bad bitch. I call hookers bitches, skanks, whores, waste of money. Only ppl like you will talk shit to other ppl if your in front of the cpu stupid idiot. Now if you could read idiot I didn't say woman are bitchs just the hookers asshole.

Retards like you should click :D

Reinforcement of negative stereotypes delivered by a trash mouth.

*Claps*

:rolleyes:

Surely it depends on who you go to.

:confused:

:D

The Beyond is my all time favourite horror film! :eek:

Nice!

I can understand why some people don't like The Beyond, but maybe this quote from the maestro himself will help them understand his "vision":


"In Italy we make films based on pure themes, without a plot, and THE BEYOND - like INFERNO - refuses conventions or traditional structers ... people who blame THE BEYOND for its lack of story don't understand that it's a film of images, which must be received without any reflection."

- LUCIO FULCI

The older I get, the more patience I have for such explainations of people's art.

As much as I am a man of logic I cannot find anything about The Beyond that offends my sensibilities.

Moreover, I enjoy and am challenged by it... and not in an arty farty way.

Fulci rocks, and The Beyond is really one of his best. My favorite bit: that blind chick getting her throat ripped out.

Don't you mean, "bitch"?

or hooker?

I heard a lot of positive stuff about this movie years ago. Back then I had seen Zombie which I didnt like that much, except in parts, so when I came to know Fulci made this one, I naturally didnt expect much from it.

Finally I got my hands on a VHS copy and I wasnt disappointed, for the simple fact that I didnt expect much. The plot was a bit confusing (so I had to watch it closely a 2nd time) and the real action didnt happen till the last 30-35 mins or so, when the zombies make an appearance for the first time. Considering the fact that the movie is around 90 mins approx, I d say one has to endure an hour before one is rewarded by some really good stuff.

All things said and done, its a good watchable flick. But still, in comparison to a movie like Dawn of the Dead, it lags far behind, IMO.




Dude/dudette/it/alien/ET...you need a spelling and grammar checker, plus one of these :-

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Perhaps Fulci has taken narrative beyond itself, as a condition of its existing, and it is only because the being of the characters can be doubled into the beyond that he finds their actions worth narrating at all.

Plus there's a neat eyeball-popping of some bitch whore.