I voted that I was totally against it, but....
If you are raped, and you dont have a partial birth abortion, then you are ok in my book.People should be responsible for themselves when having sex, and when people arent, that is wat adoption agencies are for, but I were raped I would hate to have to tell my child that they were created in that horrible way.

BTW, I'm glad nobody's used the "You could be killing the next Einstein" shit so far. That's the dumbest thing ever.

why are peopel always so optimistic

maybe theyre killing the next hitler hmmm?

The fact that you try to justify abortion appalls me. It's not a choice. At all. Why do you think life comes into existance after a few essential organs are developed? Don't you think there's more to it than that? I'm not God, and I certainly can't explain what's "right" and what's "wrong," but at least I have such respect for human that I don't take a pair of thongs and simply end the process of a childs existance everytime I think it won't be convenient for me to have a kid.

Naw, I take that back. Abortion is done by doctors. By doctors! They went to overpriced schools and wear stethescopes around their necks! They have to know what's right! Thanks, Sam, you've saved me years of trouble!

All you have in response is sarcasm? Tsk tsk.

Let me ask you something (two things). Are you in favor of the death penalty? Are you a vegitarian?

so are you saying my brainless neighbor sholdve been kept on life support then? she was dead before they pulled the plug. and without the brain, the baby is nothing

My point exactly. You can't say 'what if' as a reason, because if you do that then every other 'what if' is just as valid.

And if you'd bothered to read the rest of the thread, you'd know that I'm not really all that in favor of abortion, I'm simply in favor of the availability of it for those who aren't against it. But you're right, I'm a murderer.

Laaame.

You've never used sarcasm on this board? Get over yourself, jackass.

As for the death penalty, it depends. I'm sure you can agree. If a man killed my mother, my father and all of my friends, I would want him put to death. If an unborn child murdered all of those people...I'd sooo abort the little bastard!

I'm not vegitarian. Yes, very clever of you. The "animals have lives, too" card. Sorry, they're only here for eating, pal. Stop eating tofu and kill a cow -- welcome to the food chain.

Oh, wait, does "vegitarian" mean "the consumption of unborn children?" If so, then your point would have been valid, whatever point you were trying to make. And no, I don't eat them, if you were wondering. Well, the ones that aren't "fully developed," at least.

Why does everything always come down to science? What about the soul factor?
What if YOU would have been aborted? Does anyone think of that? Why should we, mortal humans deside whether or not this child should live? What gives us the right? It is NOT a part of the mother's body it is NOT for her to deside whether or not it is worthy of life beyond the womb...

The very fact that a living thing becomes a bloody glob in the garbage, disgusts me...

A human is human no matter how many differant ways you try to say it isn't...

Insults now. Very nice. I use sarcasm, yes. I've used sarcasm in this very thread. The difference is, I also had a point. You didn't.

Okay, so I'll put that as a yes.

Okay, a no. I'm not either, and thank you for assuming that I am. You're the one so hung up on taking lives.

If you have to ask what vegitarianism is then any credibility you had just flew out the window. If not, and this was just sarcasm, then this entire part of your post was pointless.


Okay, give me one solid reason that abortion should be illegal. None of this pseudo-religious stuff. I want a GOOD reason. If not, then you've got nothing, and I'll know I can stop wasting my time and move on.

Ah, ah, no religious stuff.

You should probably move on.

They've got some nice threads going now, too. Maybe you can contribute to those. Hey, maybe you can even start one! Possibilities are endless...

There's no way we can agree to anything, or at least come upon a compromise. Well, maybe there's one:

Let bygones be bygones. It's over. I'm not changing your mind, you're not changing mine.

No scurry off! You've got some board whoring to get to! Make sure to fuck with those newbies real good! I mean, c'mon, they're new, they deserve it! Have fun, d00d.

More sarcasm. And you were doing so good. I was doing better, but that doesn't make your stuff any worse.

But yeah, I'm going to find other stuff to do.

Wow. That's great.

Boy, I sure do wish your mother aborted you.

Was that an insult? Of course not. I mean, if she was aborted, she wouldn't know, right? No harm done! So, theoretically, since she's one for abortion, there shouldn't be any hard feelings, right? Right!

But you don't believe that. Since you think it's murder, you saying it is the same as wishing she was dead.

There are two topics I stay away from. Religion and Politics. And this one can go either way.

Unfortunately they seem to keep getting put together even though they shouldn't

so your saying my brainless neighbor should NOT have been taken off of life support? i mean she WAS.. stil alive. just no brain activity is all..

....

and ur right. if she aborted she wouldnt have known. as simple as that.

Agreed

You got me!

I thought you were leaving this topic alone? Couldn't resist my ever charming presence? Aw, how cute...

Again, it was sarcasm. I don't wish an abortion on anyone. But I kind of wish Fluffho would die of a heart attack, you know, something that isn't anyone's fault but her own. Again, there I go wishing death on someone...boy, I sure do feel hypocritical...

How about this: Sam, you leave. You're wrong. Fluffho, you quit contributing to the message board. Your complete lack of punctuation is not only giving me a headache but gaining me an even larger disrespect for public schooling. Oh, that and because you suck. I just don't like you. Asslicker.

"i mean she WAS.. stil alive. just no brain activity is all."

Oxymoron, anyone?

Besides, whoever pulled the plug on your neighbor didn't do it out of respect for her, they did it because their schedule couldn't "fit her in." That and because they wanted to save a few extra bucks...

I said I was finding other stuff to do. See?

Besides, someone has to bring logic into this, and since you won't, I'll have to.

At least I back my arguments up with fact, not personal attacks and quasi-religoius bullshit

This is why I stay away from these topics. It always gets ugly.

...

so you think she should have continued on as a vegetable? so that her children could come look at her every week and show her their school work

. good call

nuff said

and fien u want me to die. so? do i give a shit that my typing aint right? nope. this isnt a term paper, its a fuckin forum

if it gives u a headache dont read it

and dont even bring my intelligence into question. i got into the #11 university in the nation.. did you read that, IN THE NATION.

look you have your thoughts, i have mine, as does sam. we'll agree and sometimes disagree. the fact is, i've never wished death upon you... or anyone else, for thinking how they think

that makes me wonder YOUR level of intelligence.. or maturity for that matter "i wish youd die of a heart attack" ... hm....

EDIT: how about this. go to a doctor. ask them about how life support works. ask them what happens when the brain is dead. then come back here. shes was NOT like terry schiavo. terry moved, terry responded. she was asleep. had a heart attack as well as a BIGGER aneurism, then lost all brain activity..

Oh, Sam, you're my hero...

Well, let's hear it. Your "logic." Whoops, scratch that. You said you were leaving.

So leave.

Laters, d00d!

And for once (not counting the SFF topics) it's not my fault

Did you even READ the rest of that post?

yeh i know wut u mean

see theres a difference between de bating.. and telling people that they should die, and how teyre so stupid and bla blah

you dont get anywhere doing that. which is why this cat cant contribute much. you think an organization would want a guy who name calls and shit?

THANK YOU

My maturity? Oh, wow. That's great. Can I quote you? It's just too...hilarious!

Have you even read half of your posts on this thing? For a while I thought you were an eleven year old chimp with two fingers. Asslicker.

"and dont even bring my intelligence into question. i got into the #11 university in the nation.. did you read that, IN THE NATION."

The fact that you brought that up only shows your insecurities on the subject.

"so you think she should have continued on as a vegetable? so that her children could come look at her every week and show her their school work

. good call"

I feel like an idiot. No, really, I do. You're more than right, sweetie. I mean, seriously, a vegetable? Ew, groooss!

You know, Fluff, you make me feel so warm and special inside. Babies are an excessary to your life and if it gets to become to much of a hassle, death is an a-okay path?

Marry me?

you are very theatrical in your responses

this is for debate. not for arguing

and when you start bring up all this 'you shuld die' 'your so dumb ' crap.. you make it an argument.

just like the thread states. he doesnt want people arguing, but we can talk about it if we want

just like the REST of us have, we say our opinions

you however choose to slander those who are of an opinion other than yours

And I'm getting really tired of seeing Janet Jacksons 40 year old tit. Time to change my avatar.

BTW, Vamp, are you religious at all?

well im guessing no, considering he wished death upon me


then again since the beginning people have been killing in the name of god so ... nm

Oh, c'mon. Since when did you guys become such crybabies? Oh, that's right, since you've realized half of the stuff you've been saying is nonsense and that using the "hey, no name calling!" excuse was a last resort to stay on top.

Hey, if you've got to go, you've got to go.

Hey, no religion talk, buddy!

Stick to your own rules, kid.

I was asking if you were religious, I wasn't bringing religion into the topic of abortion. Since you didn't answer, and you've been using personal attacks and ignoring anything that doesn't back up your side, I'll assume that you are.

your velcome

but seriously though. if someone wants to debate, lets go. but if you wanna sling names then go somewhere else.

Yeah, but in this case it's kind of expected