Do you believe in god ?


but i dont want to start a heated debate.

isnt there a saying about religion and politics ?

Oh honey, don't worry.
Everything in here eventually turns into a heated debate:D


AND TO ADD FUEL:

Our Father----HALLOWED.

Anyone know what that means?
SACRED.

Say his SACRED NAME ....
And the name thing, oh baby we can spontaneously start a fire with that one, wooowee.


Anyway, for you new kids, the bible has been changed.... ALOT.

The Roman Catholics have added some books-isn't that adorable??
They made sure their masses didn't read as well, cause you know peasants and there moronic little brains, much too complicated for them to understand .
So they made it easy, took the choice outta their calloused hands-bless their little hearts.

King James version eliminated all the strong female roles to get rid of that pesky feminine nonsense and even helped downplay the books named AFTER females- nifty eh?

Oh I could go ON.

But I won't.
So Tired.

who would do such a thing ? those loving men ?

Much was deleted. However, if you read the gnostic gospels, the main themes are the same and the details are what the old church wanted to hush.

Same here. From 12-16 I thought I was an atheist because of how bad religion was stressed and brainwashed in my head that I begin to question the intentions and legitimacy from it. But after reading Siddhartha by Herman Hesse, some things about Confuscious and Daoism, I realized it was never that I didn't believe in God; it was religion itself that beffuddled and annoyed me. I don't attend church b/c I belive that's where most hippocrites are; but I own a bible, and I believe. Once I mastered that you indeed can be spiritual but not neccessarily religious, I understood better. What I hate is when people throw religion at your face and force--even want to implant and mandate it in your head.

Let's not forget that they buried the Gnostic Gospels, thereby eliminating the feminine principal of God entirely.

Well, not entirely... over in Western Europe pagans were deifying both the god and the goddess- and there were other belief systems across the world as well.

Therein lies the most important part of the religious debate. Religion is fine, and it can be a wonderful thing. The sad part of it is is that most religions are tailored so that they have to be thrown in others faces.

Religion is like any other choice of lifestyle. It only becomes obnoxious when you make it so. Most religions have a decent set of ethics that anyone could adopt as their own. I couldn't care less what anyone believes as long as they respect other peoples beliefs.

Unfortunately, there are people willing to kill other people who don't believe in what they do. This doesn't just pertain to religion.

In short, every group of people, regardless of what they believe, has members who are assholes. This is why ELF firebombs Hummer dealerships, why religious sects kill each other and why vegans feel the need to annoy me by wearing cow suits and preaching while I'm trying to enjoy a steak dinner. I think in an ideal world it would be possible for those with faith to co-exist with those without, but until tolerance and education override personal stigma and paranoia it seems were doomed to live with idiots who can't seem to leave well enough alone.

Yeh its pretty fucked up all the belief systems that would've been stomped out
by Christianity.

I meant from the Christian context.

...ELF firebombs Hummer dealerships...

You say that like it's wrong or bad:confused:

I don't know what happened here. I did not mean to "force my beliefs on anyone." What I don't understand about people is that they react in this fashion. Why did you type all that out? I don't WANT a debate. I started this thread out of curiosity, nothing more. ;)

This thread is about God, not any certain religion. :confused: And I have come in contact with Atheists, Catholics, Pagans, and Baptists, and so on. I don't care if you believe or not. Most of my friends are Catholic while I was raised in The Church of Christ. My parents would have a fit if I married someone from the Catholic faith. I'm 40 years old. I don't feel a need to explain myself to them. I am explaining this to you, Flayed, because I think you misunderstood my comments.

I think you misunderstood me, Nella. I quoted you and was agreeing with what you said. Then I went off on a small tangent to which the thread had been semi sidetracked to.

Pretty much any religious thread, regardless of the nature of the OP, is going to turn into a debate be it friendly or heated. I was simply using your quote as a starting point to drive into the direction which I saw the thread inevitably heading.

I would most likely never say anything to which you would have to justify yourself unless you made a statement which is provably wrong.

Perhaps I should have taken the last sentence out of the quote. That may have eliminated the confusion of where I was going with this.

I'm good. ;) Hope you are.

Perfectly fine, love. I generally don't let things on a forum get my goat, unless someone says they like the movie Boo:p

I don't know anyone that well yet. I often get frustrated while communicating through "the window to nowhere" as I call it. The written word lacks inflection so it is hard to know if someone is upset or merely stating an opinion. I always try to post a smiley or something so no one will misunderstand me. I don't like arguing. Too much of that in family situations. Hehe.

Ooh, I LOVE that movie.....




:p ;)


Not sure what I believe. But if I had to say, I would say yes, I do believe there is a god, or a higher power, or SOMETHING. But like others here, I am not much into organized religion, for some reasons that have already been mentioned. But I will say my grandfather is a preacher, and he is absolutely the best man I know. An amazing person. So its not all bad....;)

You....unbelievable.....asshole.....







*head asplode*

Funny fucking timing.
I was reading the bible today and talking to one of the JW's.
She said we are never alone in our pain,bladdy bladdy blah

Well sweetheart- it sure fucking feels that way:mad:
Not one fucking person I know is in- what are the fucking odds of that?
Goddammit to Hell:mad:

You ok? ;)

Just having a really bad day hon:(

Anything I can do?

I think someone needs a hummer to make her feel better! (does it work that way?)

*snaps to attention* Hmmmm?

LMAO:D
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@Nella- I'll be ok, thx sweetie:)

I believe in God,i just don't understand him.Why things happen,why they don't..i don't know..
Nova,pm me if you need anything!Luv ya!:)

I guess you could call me an Agnostic Theist - I dont subscribe to any one religion/set of beliefs, and I think that whatever the hell is out there is WAY beyond human perception...but I do kind of like to think that there is something positive after we die.

God only knows what it might be...

(See what I did there? ;) )

That's my thinking aswell.