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pythagoraz 08-17-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722175)
Not hypocritical.

One, you're a n00b. You don't really know anything about any of us yet.

Two, if we were downloading movies, we wouldn't be openly speaking about it. And technically, you were talking of downloading movies, because I don't believe this movie has been released, and the only way it would be on your computer is if you downloaded it, or ripped it. Seeing that it isn't out yet, the latter would be near impossible.

Three, there are a lot of filmmakers and special effects people here. I'm sure that they don't appreciate someone coming on here, saying that they have their movie, when the thing isn't even released.

As far as the MP3's go, yes, people do download those. But not everyone. I myself am a musician. I get pissed when my stuff winds up on LimeWire. But when someone out and admits to me directly, that they stole it. :mad:


One, yes I am a newbie.. :) Thanks for reminding me, I tend to forget my place on my knees in the HDC harcores shadow.. I appologize...

Two, I said very clearly that I was just presuming. I did not conclude anything, so I would'nt say I pretend that I "know" any of you...

Three, I have already adressed the whole "illegal download" thing in this thread, and we clearly do not agree. I get mad when my music ends up on Limewire etc. too, but I am not hypocritical enough to cry about it. -I keep it to myself.

But if you are as "honest" as you say, I really do respect that -And by "You" I mean everybody. If however you are not, and just won't admit it, I have NO respect for your aggression or points in this thread.

There is no honor in the downloading of copyright material just because you don't admit that you do it. "filmmakers and special effects people", musicians or whatever, are not loosing more money from a download that are mentioned in a forum than they are from your "secret, hush hush" downloading... -That whole attitude is precisely what I am calling hypocritical.

Anyway.. this is so off-topic -And even though I don't like it, I will do as everybody else and "pretend & lie" in the furture... :rolleyes:

Now... let's leave it be. ;)

VampiricClown 08-17-2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pythagoraz (Post 722184)
One, yes I am a newbie.. :) Thanks for reminding me, I tend to forget my place on my knees in the HDC harcores shadow.. I appologize...

Two, I said very clearly that I was just presuming. I did not conclude anything, so I would'nt say I pretend that I "know" any of you...

Three, I have already adressed the whole "illegal download" thing in this thread, and we clearly do not agree. I get mad when my music ends up on Limewire etc. too, but I am not hypocritical enough to cry about it. -I keep it to myself.

But if you are as "honest" as you say, I really do respect that -And by "You" I mean everybody. If however you are not, and just won't admit it, I have NO respect for your aggression or points in this thread.

There is no honor in the downloading of copyright material just because you don't admit that you do it. "filmmakers and special effects people", musicians or whatever, are not loosing more money from a download that are mentioned in a forum than they are from your "secret, hush hush" downloading... -That whole attitude is precisely what I am calling hypocritical.

Anyway.. this is so off-topic -And even though I don't like it, I will do as everybody else and "pretend & lie" in the furture... :rolleyes:

Now... let's leave it be. ;)

You know, usually, I don't flame n00bs, and I usually stick up for them. But you are being a pain in the ass. You aren't going to make it here. I give you a week or two at most.

This isn't a forum for downloading things. This is a forum for watching HORROR movies. And if you're dumb enough to admit openly on the internet that you download illegal copies of movies, you deserve to be caught doing it.

You started this whole conversation with your hostility, and being an ass towards one, short comment, from a regular member, then expect us to welcome you with open arms?

None of us are "pretending" that we don't. A lot of us here, rely on the fact that HONEST people won't do it.

And yes, I DO lose(I'm assuming that's what you were trying to say) money from people who do this. Maybe not anyMORE often than people that don't admit it. But why the hell would you say you steal shit? Why don't you go to the police station in your town and tell them you're stealing movies and music? Keep it out of our forums. I'd love to see what their reaction to it is.

You are officially blocked from my field of view on this site.

pythagoraz 08-17-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722191)
You know, usually, I don't flame n00bs, and I usually stick up for them. But you are being a pain in the ass. You aren't going to make it here. I give you a week or two at most.

This isn't a forum for downloading things. This is a forum for watching HORROR movies. And if you're dumb enough to admit openly on the internet that you download illegal copies of movies, you deserve to be caught doing it.

You started this whole conversation with your hostility, and being an ass towards one, short comment, from a regular member, then expect us to welcome you with open arms?

None of us are "pretending" that we don't. A lot of us here, rely on the fact that HONEST people won't do it.

And yes, I DO lose(I'm assuming that's what you were trying to say) money from people who do this. Maybe not anyMORE often than people that don't admit it. But why the hell would you say you steal shit? Why don't you go to the police station in your town and tell them you're stealing movies and music? Keep it out of our forums. I'd love to see what their reaction to it is.

You are officially blocked from my field of view on this site.

We clearly have different views on this subject. But remember that I wasn't the one who brought "Downloading" up...

Anyway even though I am bored enough to find your aggression amusing, I am happy that we agree on one thing. -to end this discussion.

As to how long I will "stay" on HDC. -I will until I won't any more. Maybe in a week. who knows and who cares... again what is your point?

*hugs and kisses

The Mothman 08-17-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pythagoraz (Post 722202)
We clearly have different views on this subject. But remember that I wasn't the one who brought "Downloading" up...

Anyway even though I am bored enough to find your aggression amusing, I am happy that we agree on one thing. -to end this discussion.

As to how long I will "stay" on HDC. -I will until I won't any more. Maybe in a week. who knows and who cares... again what is your point?

*hugs and kisses

you can't end a discussion with "again what is your point?" :rolleyes:

pythagoraz 08-17-2008 10:10 AM

But I just did though... ;)

VampiricClown 08-17-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 722204)
you can't end a discussion with "again what is your point?" :rolleyes:

Exactly. I still think we should have that slogan posted somewhere on the site.

It seems like we're getting back to the troll era. :eek:

urgeok2 08-17-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722217)
Exactly. I still think we should have that slogan posted somewhere on the site.

It seems like we're getting back to the troll era. :eek:

or the troll feeding era..

VampiricClown 08-17-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 722244)
or the troll feeding era..

Indeed. :D

The Mothman 08-17-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722217)
It seems like we're getting back to the troll era. :eek:

http://www.thedopefiend.com/uploaded...ll2-700297.jpg

pythagoraz 08-17-2008 01:16 PM

Wow I really am somewhat of a troll ain't I... lol but as much as I am trying to write condescenting and smartass thread replies etc. you are replying with even worse ones... -so this would be a something like a Troll-feeding masochist gathering of people with nothing on their minds that has to do with the OP Thread...

I love this place! :D It's much better than watching television...

VampiricClown 08-17-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pythagoraz (Post 722255)
Wow I really am somewhat of a troll ain't I... lol but as much as I am trying to write condescenting and smartass thread replies etc. you are replying with even worse ones... -so this would be a something like a Troll-feeding masochist gathering of people with nothing on their minds that has to do with the OP Thread...

I love this place! :D It's much better than watching television...

You have to "try" to be condescending. We don't try, we DO. That is why you fail.

Good day.

pythagoraz 08-17-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722279)
You have to "try" to be condescending. We don't try, we DO. That is why you fail.

Good day.

you "are"... :)

VampiricClown 08-17-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pythagoraz (Post 722282)
you "are"... :)

I'm a smiley? Nice. :cool:

pythagoraz 08-17-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722283)
I'm a smiley? Nice. :cool:

No, i was trying to help you with your english, but I see now that you in fact ARE a smiley.. i was like being double-clever withoout knowing it!

I oWnZ yOu! :D n00b -HeaDshOOOT!

Now lets stop this...

VampiricClown 08-17-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pythagoraz (Post 722290)
No, i was trying to help you with your english, but I see now that you in fact ARE a smiley.. i was like being double-clever withoout knowing it!

I oWnZ yOu! :D n00b -HeaDshOOOT!

Now lets stop this...

Let me get this straight. You're going to help me with my English, and you don't put a capital E on English, you spell condescending, condescenting, and without is withoout? And just so you know, the I, when you are referring to yourself as an individual, should be a capital Yeah, I don't think I'll be taking any grammar lessons from you.

And for the record, I wasn't saying we are condescending. I was saying that we do things, instead of trying to do things.

I'm a writer as well. Do not try to correct me, when you have five or more mistakes per post.

urgeok2 08-17-2008 05:46 PM

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...HT35_24369.gif

VampiricClown 08-17-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 722308)

Yup. I finally got him on ignore.

pythagoraz 08-17-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722302)
Let me get this straight. You're going to help me with my English, and you don't put a capital E on English, you spell condescending, condescenting, and without is withoout? And just so you know, the I, when you are referring to yourself as an individual, should be a capital Yeah, I don't think I'll be taking any grammar lessons from you.

And for the record, I wasn't saying we are condescending. I was saying that we do things, instead of trying to do things.

I'm a writer as well. Do not try to correct me, when you have five or more mistakes per post.


Touché... ;)

X¤MurderDoll¤X 08-18-2008 11:54 PM

I'm laughing so hard at all the people on this forum who claim not to download music and movies from the internet.

or "Well, I only download movies I know I wouldn't buy or music I usually wouldn't buy"

GIVE ME A BREAK :rolleyes:

urgeok2 08-19-2008 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 722677)
I'm laughing so hard at all the people on this forum who claim not to download music and movies from the internet.

or "Well, I only download movies I know I wouldn't buy or music I usually wouldn't buy"

GIVE ME A BREAK :rolleyes:

notice i didnt say a thing ? :)

pythagoraz 08-19-2008 06:56 AM

:rolleyes:

VampiricClown 08-19-2008 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 722677)
I'm laughing so hard at all the people on this forum who claim not to download music and movies from the internet.

or "Well, I only download movies I know I wouldn't buy or music I usually wouldn't buy"

GIVE ME A BREAK :rolleyes:

In case you forgot, I'm in this industry, and it does hurt it. Thus why I don't.

The Mothman 08-19-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 722677)
I'm laughing so hard at all the people on this forum who claim not to download music and movies from the internet.

or "Well, I only download movies I know I wouldn't buy or music I usually wouldn't buy"

GIVE ME A BREAK :rolleyes:

who said that? sounds like a skewed, inaccurate version of what I said.

VampiricClown 08-19-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 722771)
who said that? sounds like a skewed, inaccurate version of what I said.

That's kind of like saying that we all jack off to kiddie porn, because it's there.

novakru 08-19-2008 04:45 PM

Funny thread.,..oh, ok, I haven't really read it, but I did catch someone saying they were on their knees and the word 'porn' was mentioned ...so...ahem... since someone is on there knees... while you're down there..............:cool:

X¤MurderDoll¤X 08-20-2008 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 722740)
In case you forgot, I'm in this industry, and it does hurt it. Thus why I don't.

I didn't forget, I just don't care. :)

plus I never really read your posts anymore because I noticed a trend awhile ago with most of them being full of bullshit.

Angra 08-20-2008 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 722942)
I didn't forget, I just don't care. :)

plus I never really read your posts anymore because I noticed a trend awhile ago with most of them being full of bullshit.



Do me, do me!!!

VampiricClown 08-20-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 722942)
I didn't forget, I just don't care. :)

plus I never really read your posts anymore because I noticed a trend awhile ago with most of them being full of bullshit.

Bullshit. Haha, Really now?

Ferox13 08-21-2008 01:37 PM

Fuck down loading - tape trading is where its at:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../snuffhunt.jpg

and yup that is a real front page head line from back in the day AND yeah they did refer to shoddy Italian Gore flick as Snuff movies....

:-)

Prolly watch the Wiz of Gore remake tomorrow anyway...

illdojo 08-22-2008 01:26 PM

6/10
Not the best remake, but not the worst. ..Some nice gore, good acting especially from Crispin Glover...it would have sucked without him. Definitely worth a rent.

ChronoGrl 09-07-2008 05:59 AM

So we finally got around to watching this last night... And I have to say that I was not only surprised, but ridiculously impressed.

I've never seen the original, so I don't have it as a frame of reference, but...

The direction was clean, purposeful, interesting well-done.

All of the characters were fascinating (the costumes were brilliant).

And Crispin Glover steals the show (which isn't that much a surprise).

My only two critiques:
  • The end was a little silly and non-sensical (then again, if it's Hershel Gordon Lewis, then non-sensical, well, makes sense... Also, everything blurs at a certain point and you need to just suspend your sense of disbelief).
  • There wasn't enough gore. For a film entitled "Wizard of Gore" that actually had a huge budget,I was expecting Glover's stage performances to actually shock me (let's go beyond what exploitation and torture porn have already put on film for us and find a new level of gore to test the audience)...

Despite my critiques, however, I absolutely loved this film. Unfortunately I don't have the original for a frame of reference, so I can't speak as to whether or not it's a good remake, but for a good horror film itself, it was amazing. Absurd. Surreal. Bloody. Horrific.

I'd recommend to everyone.

A-/A

urgeok2 09-08-2008 09:07 AM

how were the Suicide Girls ? was it obvious who they were ?

illdojo 09-08-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 728445)
how were the Suicide Girls ? was it obvious who they were ?

Completely sexy (I love women with tattoos).... and yes very obvious.

Ferox13 09-08-2008 12:50 PM

I was suprised how good this was...

And not giving the SGs many lines was a good choice.

ChronoGrl 09-08-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 728445)
how were the Suicide Girls ? was it obvious who they were ?

RIDICULOUSLY sexy.

And, honestly, I didn't think that they were that bad. I went in thinking that they'd be TERRIBLE.

But - Very few lines. Very good pieces of meat. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...dofgoreDVD.gif

Honestly Urge - This film was fantastic.

Elvis_Christ 09-08-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 728489)
And not giving the SGs many lines was a good choice.

Yeh I agree. The SG thing put me off checking this out initially.

Really decent watch I enjoyed it. The director threw in a bit too much David Fincher worship and it could've done with more gore. It doesn't top HG Lewis' flick but its one of the better remakes I've seen in awhile.


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