i only found out about halloween through my oldest sister. I wouldn't be writing this thread if it wasnt for someone from the eighties. And yes, when i explain to them which michael myers i mean, they still don't know who it is. Some of my friends know because i spend hours on end explaining the films to them.

A: they always said "he was the boogeyman" so he is a supernatural force.....

B: he never was a psycho when he was a child his babysitter was in a cult and brainwashed him into thinking he would save the world from some kind of turmoil if he killed his family....so he never was born a psycho...

maybe you should do some research:D

C: micheal knows how to catch people thats why he always appears near them...all serial killers in horror movies do that....

D:didnt halloween come out before F13????

ummm he's a psycho

I don't do research on movies, I just watch them.

A: Ted Bundy could be referred to as a Boogeyman, that doesn't mean he has supernatural powers.

B: When was this information mentioned? o_O

C: Just because you know how to catch people, doesn't mean you can instantaneously transport around on your free will. There are situations in the Halloween movies in which a catch scene has no possible way of explaining itself. ie -> not possible.

D: Yes it did. Friday the 13th was admitted to be a quick film to cash in on Halloween's sucesses. Therefore, F13 is the copy of Halloween - not vice versa.

ahhh no wonder....its okay...just check www.wikipedia.org it will give you all the info ya need...and yes he is a psycho but he was brainwashed into it....but for all of our sakes DO SOME RESEARCH!!!!!!!

Researched the whole cult aspect revealed in the SIXTH film (ha). This is the 6th film. The sixth. In a franchise used to rake in the cash. John Carpenter was not at all involved with this production; writting, directing, anything. I'm not sure if such a researcher of film as yourself is aware... but when a film turns into a franchise and the original creator drops out... the story is taken on by independant writers who give the film their own twists. The fact that Michael was "chosen by a cult" in the sixth has nothing to do with the original; you CANNOT say that John Carpenter intended from the start to have Michael be in a cult. He very well could have deemed him as he was presented in HIS VERSION (ie. THE ORIGINAL)... as a confused child with a knife.

ooooo you got me there:cool:

They will in time...

such a child :rolleyes:

I can't deal with a little billy badass 14 year old right now, sorry.

hey i thought i was the one in these forums who was the official smart ass!!!!!:D

thats 13 get it straight dumb ass !!!!!!

This one is strange. Especially the storylines about beating off to pictures and the sounds of dead animals.

fuck you....evryone thinks i am trying to be a badass but i just give my opinion and you guys pissed me off.."billy badass" thats not like me and i wish you wouldnt expect that everyone my age has something to prove...i am just a normal person...and that comment was crossing the line...actually i was just PM'ed saying that i am un civil so i guess i will have to try harder to be a nice guy...you guys are great i hope we can be friends but lets just drop the arguing????

i all i want is to not be treated like a child even though i am...in return i will stop being....

a.....dickhead,jackass,dumbass.............ok!!!!

i wont stop the smartass:D :D :D

sorry about that

exactly....alright thanks i gotta go i will mos def be back around 6:00 EST

gore, i like you because you keep to your opinions, you are only one year younger than me and you love haloween.

As for the h6 stuff, yes, that was the franchise stuff but i researched john carpenters reason for michael. It was to do with his nanna who was like him and neglectful parents. He was as shocked as we were when he killed judith and that is why he never talks.

Bah. Don't judge a movie until you watch it, bottom line. You can say it probably will suck, or you think it will suck, but you can't say Zombie ruined it or that it's a bad movie yet.

thanks;) its not just halloween i love its horror movies in general....my parents and my sister just sit there and try to listen when i try to tell them about a certain aspect of TCM,halloween etc. kinda like your friends....and despare is right....we havent seen it yet but i just care for a great horror series and would hate to see us horror fans get tricked into another shit remake it would make me cry:( i always keep to my opinions...when i think something is right i push it...like i think that zombie is a shitty director:D

This is true,however the problem for me is that Halloween is almost perfection,which would be difficult to improve upon for any director let alone Mr Zombie whose Movies so far have been o.k but have not suggested he possesses the talent to improve one of the great horror movies.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating though, so grab a spoon!

It's a great movie but honestly, it's far from perfect. There can't be a perfect film in my opinion, a perfect film would eliminate the need for any other movies in that, or any other genre.

Sorry, but even John Carpenter would laugh pretty hard if you called Halloween almost perfection. He didn't even want to direct the second one even though he wrote it.

I liked it, probably my favorite slasher movie. Saying it's pretty much impossible to improve upon is just a little too much.

Can you explain why Halloween is "almost perfection" with actual reasons?


also: no resorting to stupidity/name calling please

Well thats how i feel,of course everyone has their own opinion,but i do believe without Halloween the horror landscape would be a rather different one to the one we have today. I stand by what i said about perfection because i have yet to see a more effective slasher.And as for Carpenter, Well he has made more poor career choices than good ones imo.Did i just get my first flaming?

no, it wasn't flaming. :) Most people here think Halloween is one of the best movies ever too.

You feel that it's almost perfection? not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

You've never seen a more effective slasher? still not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

I'll rephrase my question:

What makes Halloween so great that it can't be improved upon? I think being a slasher movie already means it could be improved on greatly by being remade without abiding by the rules of the mindless slasher. Which is what I thought Rob Zombie was going to do with his version, not that I think his will be better but I'm hoping it will be different (it seems everyone is angry because it's not going to be the same)

I don't think you were flamed, I just think that the validity of you calling Halloween "perfect" was challenged. Maybe you wouldn't remake it because you feel it's perfect but apparently other people believe there's more they can add. I doubt Zombie feels that he's making a "better" movie but I don't think everybody remakes a film thinking it will be better. Sometimes they just want to put their energy and their thoughts into it, not try and improve it.

I don't think "Halloween" is that great!

When I'm in the mood for a slasher... I need to see the RED STUFF.


Halloween is a bloodless slasher!

:) Blimey your making this tough.:)
Ok didn't say it couldn't be improved upon just difficult.
To me no other movie in the slasher genre has been as effective at creating a truly heavy atmosphere and such knife edge tension.I find Michaels presence more malevolent and purely evil than any other character in the genre.The score is simple yet chilling.It just floats my boat!its just an opinion.
Nice to meet you though.P.S i don't do name calling that would be rude.

I agree that no other movie in the slasher genre has been as effective, Michael Myers is my favorite "monster" The Halloween themesong is my favorite horror theme aswell, but.... I wouldn't say it's almost perfection. My thing is, what's the point of a remake if you're going to copy the movie exactly except using new actors who the fans hate anyway because they're not the characters they've come to love. Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest for Rob Zombie to go ahead and make the movie as different as possible and maybe make a really great movie, instead of a second rate copy of the original?

Besides, even if it is the best movie ever you can take solace in the fact that every single Halloween fan is still going to insist that the original was better. :p

Nice to meet you too. :)

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Well i hope he's got balls this big cos he will need them to pull it off!!!lol

wow, i might a pretty thought provoking thread (for once). Change I can deal with but destruction and rebuilding with only afew of the original building blocks seems a bit too much. There's nothing we cando about it but I personally would sleep better if he either changed the names to make it his own or just didn't make it. Why try and remake a cake if you've already got a perfectly good one that was just right. It seems as though he came up with some ideas, didn't think they'd be recognised so he put those idea onto a great story to boost it. If john caprenter were dead, he'd be turning in his satanic, legendary grave.

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carpenter would be turning in his grave but we cant fix it...its too late..zombie is making this and we cant stop him..bottom line

john carpenter isn't dead :confused:

and you told me I needed to do research :rolleyes:

Carpenter is getting his piece of the action too. I'm fairly certain he doesn't mind.

ferret chucker was the one who told me he was dead!!!!!...i was told that..

Well, I think we've all learned a leson here today kids. Always believe what other people tell you.

ohhhh shut up:rolleyes:

Look at the first word ;)

son of a bitch.....you all got me there:rolleyes: :o

we all make mistakes. I have a teacher who looks like Super Mario and I once called him that.