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_____V_____ 07-22-2007 11:45 AM

Nice bashing of Romero's Land of the Dead folks!

It was a bigger budget addition to the Dead franchise but did little in way of critical and commercial appreciation for Romero's famous trio. Most of us keep it apart from Night/Dawn/Day and from the looks of it, we have valid reasons for it too.



Excellent addition, illdojo. Why is there so much hatred towards

Jeepers Creepers

while I know some of you absolutely adore it? Since it gave the horror genre a new, terrifying and ruthless "creature" killer, and the Hansel & Gretel situation at the end was stupefying...

Here comes the bashing!!:D

zwoti 07-22-2007 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 616500)
If this has been done before, sue me.:p

Its common to see hate towards a particular movie. Sometimes a favorite of one person turns out to be hated by another.

Here we will feel free to dissect a movie.

- Why didnt you like it? (or) What part of it wasnt good?

- What movie makes you turn the TV/DVD player off?

- What pisses you off about it?:mad:

- (do you quietly watch it afterwards, when your hateful peers are gone or snoring in bed? Is it a guilty pleasure for you?;) )

Bash the movie, as much as you want. But dont take it personal, please. This will be healthy/unhealthy criticism of the movie ONLY, not the people who like it for some reason.:)

Ok...lets have the first one, which shares a love/hate relationship a lot around these parts...

interesting thread,

for the record

halloween 3 - liked
event horizon - liked
house of 1000 corpses - pish
the shining - liked
land of the dead - meh
jeepers creepers - pah


just wait till someone mentions blair witch project :mad:

_____V_____ 07-22-2007 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwoti (Post 616878)
just wait till someone mentions blair witch project :mad:

I was actually thinking of that one after the bashing of Jeepers Creepers was over.;)


(get ready with your knives, forks and razors, Z):D

Kane_Hodder 07-23-2007 02:11 AM

The characters were not upto par in Jeepers Creepers. The killer was great, but some of the acting was either too annoying or too bad.
I did not hate the film though. I thought it was good.

jenna26 07-23-2007 09:44 AM

I find Jeepers Creepers more amusing then anything. I was certainly entertained by it, but I don't think it was all that well done. I didn't really care about the characters, and while I kind of liked the idea, and the creature, I didn't find much scary about it.
But again, I was entertained. Can't expect much more than that. ;)

_____V_____ 07-23-2007 10:26 AM

It was an entertainer, no doubt about it. But there wasnt much sympathy generated for the lead characters, and the supporting cast got skewered before audiences could identify with them. The Creeper is a good addition to the killers of yore though. I thought "he/it" was very creative.

Righto...I see this movie in many people's top 10 lists, yet many other members get a bitter taste in their mouths when it is mentioned. Why do the haters dont like


The Blair Witch Project?


Let the bashing commence!! (that means you too, Z):D

massacre man 07-23-2007 10:41 AM

The Blair Witch Project... the only good thing I think came of it was the "Scooby Doo Project" thing that came on Cartoon Network during promotion for the movie (Keep in mind I was 8).

Roderick Usher 07-23-2007 10:51 AM

I feel sorry for those too young (or whatever the reason) to have seen this in the theaters the opening weekend.

It was an event that I thoroughly enjoyed. Sure there are holes in it, but I look past them completely because the vibe in the theater was one of apprehension and very palpable fear. The finale is chilling and people screamed their heads off in the cinema.

Doc Faustus 07-23-2007 11:58 AM

I'm going to be honest. I laughed my ass off. If the kids weren't so damn histrionic, it might have been believable, but as is, they were just plain funny.

alkytrio666 07-23-2007 12:56 PM

I think it's an example of brlliant and unique filmmaking, and I have an immense amount of respect for the makers. I own the DVD, have watched it several times, and it still manages to send a shiver to the spine.

I will support the BWP any ol' day.

Zero 07-23-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 616970)
I feel sorry for those too young (or whatever the reason) to have seen this in the theaters the opening weekend.

It was an event that I thoroughly enjoyed. Sure there are holes in it, but I look past them completely because the vibe in the theater was one of apprehension and very palpable fear. The finale is chilling and people screamed their heads off in the cinema.

i agree with rod - maybe its a generational thing. i saw this in a packed theater and i think i was the only person who knew it was not real. still, even though i had read trade mags talk about the sundance deal - i still thought (and still think) it was a great film.

i also, for that matter, love land of the dead and think people didn't give it a chance because they were hoping for some speedy-zombie splatter fest.

but what would i know - after all i'm a monkey

X¤MurderDoll¤X 07-23-2007 07:16 PM

I liked the Blair Witch Project. :)

Despare 07-23-2007 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 616970)
I feel sorry for those too young (or whatever the reason) to have seen this in the theaters the opening weekend.

It was an event that I thoroughly enjoyed. Sure there are holes in it, but I look past them completely because the vibe in the theater was one of apprehension and very palpable fear. The finale is chilling and people screamed their heads off in the cinema.

The theater I was in was semi full and a couple people walked out half way through but nobody seemed afraid. Me personally, I grew up camping and was in the woods all the time so the movie didn't really scare me a bit. I didn't even get the willies. I'll have to give it another shot but really the only thing that stood out for me was jumping in the wrong girl's lap in the theater and the part where the one guy says he punted the map into the river.

illdojo 07-23-2007 09:29 PM

I also saw it in the theater. I have nothing negative to say about BWP. :cool:

Except for the sequel. :rolleyes:

swiss tony 07-23-2007 09:36 PM

i think the most important thing this movie demonstrated was that there are still directors and writers out there that can come up with a novel concept. i watched in the cinema the first weekend it came out and the movie put me on edge for a few days. it was also the first and only movie i've seen at the cinema where the audience didn't stampede out as the first hint of credit appeared, they just sat transfixed for maybe 10 seconds then slowly filed out in utter silence. i think it's a great movie but not rewatchable. which in itself makes it pretty individual. it also has one of THE great finishes

The STE 07-23-2007 10:55 PM

I'm torn on the Blair Witch Project. On one hand, it's a good concept that, at the time, hardly ever got used. They did it right, and they made a metric shit-ton of money on a movie that cost, by industry standards, next to nothing to make. There are valid reasons to show love for the Blair Witch Project.



On the other hand, it's just so fun to make fun of it. There are environments in which it's an effective movie, but in any other environment, it's just goofy. And I loved the joke about it on Family Guy. "Ok, they're in-they're in the woods...the camera keeps on moving...uh, I think they're-they're looking for some witch or something, I-I don't know, I wasn't listening. Nothing's happening...nothing's happening...something about a map...nothing's happening...it's over. [looks around] A lot of people in the audience look pissed."

Kane_Hodder 07-24-2007 02:07 AM

I was not scared much through it, unlike a few other viewers.
I thought it was a bit over-dramatized, rather than touching on the raw emotions of the viewers.
It was engrossing to watch, but did not have much fizz to make things captivating.

_____V_____ 07-24-2007 07:20 AM

Excellent bashing. Hopefully Z will put in his two cents later too.

All the points covered nicely. There isnt much for me to add or subtract so we ll move on...

Over the years I have noticed that one movie is spoken of with a lot of fondness by a select group of members here, but a bigger group dont like it for some reason...

Will the haters stand up and say why they hate/dont like


Friday the 13th as much?



Here comes the bashing!!

zwoti 07-24-2007 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 617086)
Excellent bashing. Hopefully Z will put in his two cents later too.

its a fucking twig




woooohoooo.........scary...

_____V_____ 07-24-2007 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwoti (Post 617087)
its a fucking twig

woooohoooo.........scary...

So you DID like the Blair Witch Project, after all.;)


:D

zwoti 07-24-2007 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 617090)
So you DID like the Blair Witch Project, after all.;)


like hell,


too much hype before watching the film.



"scariest movie ever made" - like fook.



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyfz2DFZ9OA

massacre man 07-24-2007 08:08 AM

Whenever I'm near Burketsville there's a fucknut of people around the woods.

About Friday The 13th, it overused the killer's POV way too much, I mean it's cool for a small bit every now and then, but every time Pamela was around it was her POV until the end, that's what killed it for me. That and it was basically "Halloween" without the effort and with a vagina. The sequels I didn't mind so much (namely 2, 3, 4 and 6).

_____V_____ 07-24-2007 10:56 AM

Hmm to an extent I agree with massacre man's point there.

The climax was a bit of a downer...although the "second" climax was a sort of hint for things to come...

Any more bashings guys?

jenna26 07-24-2007 12:31 PM

My main issue with Friday the 13th was that I just didn't buy it; I didn't like Alice as herione, she annoyed the hell out of me. The story was bland and not very scary. The only thing it had going for it was there was some blood, some really good death scenes. I have always thought this film was overrated. Halloween, the rules of which this movie was obviously following, had a far better build up of suspense, and much better characters, was just all around a far better film. Friday the 13th just pales so much in comparison. But admittedly, this movie's influence on the horror genre is undeniable, so many horror fans love it, I often wonder what is wrong with me...lol.

illdojo 07-24-2007 12:45 PM

Betsy Palmer was great in her role, and it was the franchise that brought us Jason. I am a much bigger fan of parts 2-5.
IMO, You gotta tip your hat to the Slasher that started the 80's off right. ;)

The_Return 07-24-2007 01:58 PM

Friday the 13th is a good movie that spawned one of my favourite franchises, but it really doesnt hold up to multiple viewings. Really enjoyed it the first two times out, but when I popped it in for a 3rd time I ended up fast forwarding alot.

That said, it really served to cement slashers into the public consciousness. Nowhere near as influential as Halloween of course, but it still deserves some respect.

Doc Faustus 07-24-2007 05:05 PM

I have no issues with Friday but the kids. Betsy Palmer is amazing. I only wish Jason could have been as scary.

_____V_____ 07-24-2007 11:10 PM

Its true. Somehow most of Jason's kills make for enjoyable viewing, rather than creeping the audiences out. More often than not, we find ourselves cheering for him.

Maybe Jason could not fit the exact bill of a creepy, psychotic deranged killer like Norman Bates or Henry, or even Michael Myers to an extent. But then, in the original, mama Voorhees was the killer, although it was a bit hard to digest. (They could have shown that Jason was still prowling in the woods, and mama was puppeting him around...it could have brought an interesting angle to the whole franchise)

Once again, very nice bashing, folks!

This is getting really good...and most of us are good at grinding a movie to a pulp!!:D



Okay, how often have I read around these parts from members that they didnt find this movie scary? Especially when it has been touted as one of the most scariest movies ever made?

After all...it did make a whole lot of people afraid of going into the water for a long, long time...yet, why doesn't

Jaws

click with many die-hard horror fans?

Bring on your views, haters!!

swiss tony 07-24-2007 11:44 PM

a bit of a tall order to ask people to criticise jaws but i don't understand one thing: where did the shark learn to play the cello?

Unaboner3000 07-25-2007 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss tony
a bit of a tall order to ask people to criticise jaws but i don't understand one thing: where did the shark learn to play the cello?

Yea...and couldn't they teach him more than those same two notes. :p

Anyways, Jaws is a great film. I can't imagine anyway claiming this movie sucked. Now the sequels....that's another story.

newb 07-25-2007 08:26 AM

love Jaws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92yHyxeju1U

alkytrio666 07-25-2007 09:47 AM

I never understood how anyone would have a bad thing to say about Jaws. It's an epic adventure-horror movie, something we don't see very often. If the fresh excitement wasn't enough, it's got an unbelievably believable cast and directing style galore thanks to Mr. Spielberg.

I mean, really, what's there to dislike about it?
(...and if somebody says "the shark looks fake" I'll tweak...)

_____V_____ 07-25-2007 10:57 AM

I personally love it...the sheer terror and the really creepy and electrifying atmosphere of the movie gives me chills just to reminiscence about it...

But, it was surprising to see that some of our members regard Jaws as over-rated and over-hyped for some reason. I read lines on the same in some threads, hence Jaws is up here.

But maybe they dont know the movie is up for them to bash...lets give them some more time to chance upon it and give us their views on why they think so.

jenna26 07-25-2007 11:46 AM

Jaws is one my of my favorites, one of the few movies I never get tired of, not matter how often I watch it. I can recite most of the dialogue I have watched it so much. Its a very well made film; the writing is soild, and it is one of the few movies that I found to be far superior to the book it was based on.

But fear is very subjective; what scares one person makes another giggle. The Exorcist is the perfect example of this, a lot of people I know were pretty freaked out by it the first time they watched it, but I also have a friend that finds it hilarious. I suspect that most that didn't like Jaws just do not get why so many claim that it is so scary. Many don't even seem to consider it a horror film.

Despare 07-25-2007 01:05 PM

I liked Jaws a lot, I think the setting is a little foreign to me since I'm far from the ocean but the movie was really well done. I just don't think it's really a horror flick...

Roderick Usher 07-25-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Despare (Post 617259)
I just don't think it's really a horror flick...

I gotta disagree with you on that one. It has a near-unstoppable killer that takes out a naked chick, a kid, a couple of old men, the tough-as-nails fisherman and nearly eats our hero.

There are jump scares, lots of creepy mood, a chilling soundtrack and tons of suspense.

And there are people who were so traumatized by the film (both my wife & my mother fall ionto this category) that they will not set foot in the ocean for fear of being eaten.

Any film with all these elements is a horror film.

Doc Faustus 07-25-2007 03:46 PM

It's one of the great man vs. nature movies. I like early Spielberg much better than I like late Spielberg, actually. Duel and Jaws are both amazing.

illdojo 07-25-2007 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 617226)
I never understood how anyone would have a bad thing to say about Jaws. It's an epic adventure-horror movie, something we don't see very often. If the fresh excitement wasn't enough, it's got an unbelievably believable cast and directing style galore thanks to Mr. Spielberg.

I mean, really, what's there to dislike about it?
(...and if somebody says "the shark looks fake" I'll tweak...)

Ditto....Thanks for writing mine for me, Alky. :D

alkytrio666 07-25-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illdojo (Post 617284)
Ditto....Thanks for writing mine for me, Alky. :D

I'm here for ya, ill!


We gotta get Return in here- I know he wasn't as fond about Jaws as others are, and he's good at making valid arguements.

novakru 07-25-2007 07:23 PM

Thanks to that movie, I have been afraid of getting more than 2 feet in the ocean for 30 years now.
Thanks, you fucking mechanical fish:D


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