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Gentlemen Death 06-11-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wensday13 (Post 609785)
Ive always though the 2nd Nightmare was as good as the first one. Alot of people dont agree, I love it though. Freddy was as sinister in the second one as the first.



Im not gay by the way, not theres anything wrong with that.

Ive never enterained the gay notion concerning this film.

Neither have I.....That just means whomever brought it up is probably gay....Not that there is anything wrong with that.....

Shazbut 06-11-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hethwheel (Post 609713)
Thought Event Horizon started out brilliant, ran along well and then that F**king ending.

It just wrecked the head completely. Visually it works and the atmosphere and potential for shocks is done well. But the core concept of the movie and how its revealED towards the end, just wrecked it. (opinion only)

Utterly, utterly agree!

Sci-fi movies should not end up with zombie-type thingies going on! See? I still cant quite put my finger on it with E H!!!!!!

Shazbut 06-11-2007 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss tony (Post 609732)
............... i'm right and you're wrong.:D

Naughty man!!! :p

Shazbut 06-11-2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 609734)
Hey, I might have loved it and just don't remember loving it....;)
I think it is time for me to rewatch it.

Oh and as far as underrated goes I would like to add Ravenous, In the Mouth of Madness (yes, I like it dammit), Lord of Illusions, Nightbreed.....and one of my absolute favorite movies that very few people seem to talk about very much.....Videodrome.

RAVENOUS *IS* definitely one of the most underrated movies of all time!!!

And In the Mouth of Madness is scary in that the psychological twist makes the viewer feel as *insane* as the main character - do you agree? Definitely another underrated one!

swiss tony 06-11-2007 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 609734)
Hey, I might have loved it and just don't remember loving it....;)
I think it is time for me to rewatch it.

Oh and as far as underrated goes I would like to add Ravenous, In the Mouth of Madness (yes, I like it dammit), Lord of Illusions, Nightbreed.....and one of my absolute favorite movies that very few people seem to talk about very much.....Videodrome.

i had no idea in the mouth of madness and videodrome weren't held close to HDC's heart. these are two of the best horrors period. some of the FX are badly dated but if you look past that, in the way you would with the thing, then they are truly great ps. farewell to the flesh

bwind22 06-12-2007 04:39 AM

Demons
Demons 2
Redneck Zombies
Zombie Holocaust
Psycho 2

jenna26 06-12-2007 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss tony (Post 609809)
i had no idea in the mouth of madness and videodrome weren't held close to HDC's heart. these are two of the best horrors period. some of the FX are badly dated but if you look past that, in the way you would with the thing, then they are truly great ps. farewell to the flesh

Actually they might be well loved here, but elsewhere, even some other horror forums I have posted at (and now no longer post at :p ), there seem to be people who haven't bothered to see them or they don't truly appreciate them.

jenna26 06-12-2007 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shazbut (Post 609805)
RAVENOUS *IS* definitely one of the most underrated movies of all time!!!

And In the Mouth of Madness is scary in that the psychological twist makes the viewer feel as *insane* as the main character - do you agree? Definitely another underrated one!

Ravenous is a great film. Good cast, some great dark humor, and its pretty creepy actually. Among the few films to combine horror and comedy, and get it exactly right (in my opinion).

In the Mouth of Madness is a very psychologically intriguing film. Glad to see some other appreciate it around here. :D

_____V_____ 06-12-2007 08:28 AM

Everyone seriously needs to check this out...

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26771

Hunt down all those movies, and I gurantee you will find plenty of under-rated gems. Quite simply put, one of the best and brilliant set of obscure movies you will ever get to choose from.

Nikkif8 06-12-2007 09:08 AM

It's not really a horror movie but Natural Born Killers is my all time fav and I think it is a very underrated movie. It was rated worst movie of the year in 95 when it came.

mordrid 06-12-2007 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 609867)
Everyone seriously needs to check this out...

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26771

Hunt down all those movies, and I gurantee you will find plenty of under-rated gems. Quite simply put, one of the best and brilliant set of obscure movies you will ever get to choose from.

Thanks for pointing out that thread V. Would be great if we finished up writing the blurbs for those movies. Everyone really should check out that thread. Has an amazing list of flicks that are not as recongized as they should be.

jenna26 06-12-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 609867)
Everyone seriously needs to check this out...

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26771

Hunt down all those movies, and I gurantee you will find plenty of under-rated gems. Quite simply put, one of the best and brilliant set of obscure movies you will ever get to choose from.

Finally read this, and yes, a great list and quite a few of the ones I mentioned are actually on there, so good job folks...lol. :D

_____V_____ 06-12-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mordrid (Post 609877)
Thanks for pointing out that thread V. Would be great if we finished up writing the blurbs for those movies. Everyone really should check out that thread. Has an amazing list of flicks that are not as recongized as they should be.

I wasnt the first one who pointed out that thread here...

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 608828)

Unfortunately, not many paid attention to Rod when he pasted the URL to that thread earlier in THIS thread. I merely repeated his post...credit goes to him.

Thanks for checking it out THIS time around.;)

mordrid 06-12-2007 11:19 AM

Then thank you Rod for pointing it out and thank you V for pointing out his pointing it out. My brain doesnt always work, been married too long

Shazbut 06-12-2007 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikkif8 (Post 609876)
It's not really a horror movie but Natural Born Killers is my all time fav and I think it is a very underrated movie. It was rated worst movie of the year in 95 when it came.

Only because of the hollywood hype! People are geared up to watch something totally different to what they actually see on the big screen.

Also, alot of people (especially the critics) miss the whole point of that movie - the title is the hint! The statement is that people can be born evil. But all the way through the movie, both killers deny completely that their *upbringings* caused their overt behaviour (they are both in denial).

Basically, there are hidden depths to a wonderfully graphic, photogenic, satirical, exciting film (well, IMO, anyway!!) :D

Shazbut 06-12-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 609867)
Everyone seriously needs to check this out...

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26771

Hunt down all those movies, and I gurantee you will find plenty of under-rated gems. Quite simply put, one of the best and brilliant set of obscure movies you will ever get to choose from.

I'll be honest here and say that I am guilty, although being a horror buff, of not being knowledgeable on the more *obscure* films. The list is great if you are aware of them, which I am not - but I will try my best to check them out.

I assumed underrated movies were only ones which were in the commercial (hollywood) genre, which didnt become blockbusters because people werent interested - but we can see the diamonds in the coal, so to speak!

For example, RAVENOUS was a flop at the cinema, but I (and a few others here) think its an absolute gem of a film - for plot, continuity, acting, script, imagery, photography, gratuitous violence, etc etc :D

Wensday13 06-12-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazbut (Post 609946)
I assumed underrated movies were only ones which were in the commercial (hollywood) genre, which didnt become blockbusters because people werent interested - but we can see the diamonds in the coal, so to speak!


That was really the point of this thread. All due respect to who wrote/contributied to that list. But most of those are pretty obscure.
The movies I was talking about arent particularly hard to find, just movies alot of people overlook or that are largly ignored.

Roderick Usher 06-12-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazbut (Post 609946)
For example, RAVENOUS was a flop at the cinema, but I (and a few others here) think its an absolute gem of a film - for plot, continuity, acting, script, imagery, photography, gratuitous violence, etc etc :D

It's on the list. You can find most of the films on Netflix.

From the "Other HDC 100" list:

Ravenous (1999)

Ravenous is a tasteful combination of survival, legend, and cannibalism seasoned with dark humor. Guy Pearce plays an Army captain who is transferred to a fort in the Sierra Nevada foothills which is home to a motley crew of soldiers and Native Americans. Soon thereafter, Robert Carlyle shows up with a frightening tale of a traveling party who was stranded in the mountains. It’s a very well scripted movie and easy to get caught up in the insanity.

A solid cast and a unique soundtrack (that truly enhances the movie) make this a very overlooked film and a must see in my opinion. - cactus

Nikkif8 06-13-2007 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shazbut (Post 609942)
Only because of the hollywood hype! People are geared up to watch something totally different to what they actually see on the big screen.

Also, alot of people (especially the critics) miss the whole point of that movie - the title is the hint! The statement is that people can be born evil. But all the way through the movie, both killers deny completely that their *upbringings* caused their overt behaviour (they are both in denial).

Basically, there are hidden depths to a wonderfully graphic, photogenic, satirical, exciting film (well, IMO, anyway!!) :D

Exactly! Nobody got the movie and there for said it was crap when in reality it is a great movie.

bwind22 06-13-2007 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey (Post 609157)
For some ungodly reason
John Carpenter movies don't do much for me..

Just wait until LA Gothic hits!






And yes, Ravenous is a spectacular film. I fought hard to make sure it was allowed on to The Other 100 list. :)

Shazbut 06-13-2007 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 609989)
It's on the list. You can find most of the films on Netflix.

From the "Other HDC 100" list:

Ravenous (1999)

Ravenous is a tasteful combination of survival, legend, and cannibalism seasoned with dark humor. Guy Pearce plays an Army captain who is transferred to a fort in the Sierra Nevada foothills which is home to a motley crew of soldiers and Native Americans. Soon thereafter, Robert Carlyle shows up with a frightening tale of a traveling party who was stranded in the mountains. It’s a very well scripted movie and easy to get caught up in the insanity.

A solid cast and a unique soundtrack (that truly enhances the movie) make this a very overlooked film and a must see in my opinion. - cactus

Thank you :) Yes, I recognised a few there and can probably count on both hands the ones I have actually heard of and can count on one hand those I actually saw.

"Family Games" gave me nightmares for months after and may not necessarily be underrated - just hard to watch!!! :eek: Not for the graphic gore in it (none there?), as its left to the imagination of the viewer, but the cold way in which the perps operate. And that dismissive/indifferent *tipping over the side of the boat* scene near the end - boy oh boy!
I'd rather psychological horror to in ya face gore anyday!!

Two others I would have liked to have seen on the list were:
1) Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? - classic psychological horror (again!)
2) EL dia de la bestia (Day of the Beast) - a wicked Spanish film - but that one *IS* obscure!!

I suppose it is all relative. I class underrated as movies that *I* thought were brilliant, were on release to the general public (and would be recognised by most people) but classed as a *flop* in said movies. A flop because people had preconceived ideas about what they were going to watch (due to biased and bigoted comments from film critics beforehand) and therefore disappointed. Also a flop because the content was either too graphic, or the plot was too *deep* or too *superficial* for them.

As a group our interest lies in the horror genre - many of you are into more obscure horror films that I havent heard of - like I am sure some of you havent heard of El dia de la bestia (??). Some of you may not even think "....Baby Jane?" is horror - but I class that as a classic psychological horror movie. It is underrated because some viewers only saw two brilliant actresses playing out a thriller. It's the cruel and *insane* way in which one character treats the other, who is completely helpless (like the guy in the wheelchair in TCM!!).

Think of Christian Bale (in The Machinist) who had to lose tons of weight for his character, Joan Crawford had to do the same, to allow Bette Davis to drag her across the floor by her hair! There was no CGI in *those* days!!!

So, our interpretation of *underrated* is subjective and relative, yes?

stubbornforgey 06-13-2007 06:00 AM

fuck..i forgot about Baby jane..

brilliant movie
and mummy dearest..

anything that had Bette Davis..
Joan Crawford and Barbara Stanwick

I liked Mia Farrow in the Alfred Hitchcock movie..'blind fury'
and Rosemary's baby'
but i never thought much of her over all acting as coming close
to what these 3 gems portrayed.

Roderick Usher 06-13-2007 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Shazbut (Post 610089)
Thank you :)

"Family Games" gave me nightmares for months after and may not necessarily be underrated - just hard to watch!!!

Two others I would have liked to have seen on the list were:
1) Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? - classic psychological horror (again!)
2) EL dia de la bestia (Day of the Beast) - a wicked Spanish film - but that one *IS* obscure!!

Well it's FUNNY GAMES, not FAMILY GAMES...and it's on the list

El Dia de la Bestia is great and it almost made the list, but it was too hard for all our judges to get their hands on. We did however include Accion Mutante - by the same director, Alex de la Iglesia.

And Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is awesome. So awesome in fact that it doesn't belong on an unsung list it belongs on the must-see list for any film fan.

I must say I like your taste:)

Shazbut 06-13-2007 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 610136)
Well it's FUNNY GAMES, not FAMILY GAMES...and it's on the list

Oops, yes, a slip of the keyboard keys!! Just testing to see if everyone was awake!!! :o

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 610136)
El Dia de la Bestia is great and it almost made the list, but it was too hard for all our judges to get their hands on. We did however include Accion Mutante - by the same director, Alex de la Iglesia.

And Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is awesome. So awesome in fact that it doesn't belong on an unsung list it belongs on the must-see list for any film fan.

I must say I like your taste:)

Thank you.... I do me best to enjoy! :D

Lord 06-13-2007 11:10 AM

Storm of The Century. one of the most underated movies of Stephen King, i beleive horror fan should see that movie.

swiss tony 06-13-2007 11:59 PM

just ordered blood on satan's claw, is this any good? it is reasonably untalked about. i suppose i'll find out soon enough if that's cause it's poor

neverending 06-14-2007 01:42 AM

I've never heard any stories about Joan Crawford losing weight to make things easier on Davis in Baby Jane. In fact stories abound about the feud between the two divas in this picture doing their best to make life difficult for each other. One of them even has it that Crawford filled her pockets with rocks to make it HARDER for Davis to drag her across the floor.

texaschainsaw 06-14-2007 09:36 AM

what about dead alive? i love that movie, and it doesnt seem to get talked about a lot. also 976-evil, night of the demons 1 & 2, waxwork, i really could name a lot here.

Nikkif8 06-14-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by texaschainsaw (Post 610395)
what about dead alive? i love that movie, and it doesnt seem to get talked about a lot. also 976-evil, night of the demons 1 & 2, waxwork, i really could name a lot here.

976-EVIL was awesome LOL I remember catching that on late night TV a few times.

jenna26 06-14-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikkif8 (Post 610399)
976-EVIL was awesome LOL I remember catching that on late night TV a few times.

I always thought there was a possibility that I was the only one that liked, or would admit to liking, that movie, glad I'm not....lol....:D

texaschainsaw 06-14-2007 12:53 PM

how could not love a movie directed by freddy krueger himself??

alkytrio666 06-14-2007 03:54 PM

I didn't check the last few pages, so I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but the most underrated horror movie of all time is The Brood (1979). It's one of my all time favorite chillers...it's scary, psychological, twisty, and well-acted.

I can still get creeped out big time when I watch this alone in the dark.

Shazbut 06-14-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 610306)
I've never heard any stories about Joan Crawford losing weight to make things easier on Davis in Baby Jane. In fact stories abound about the feud between the two divas in this picture doing their best to make life difficult for each other. One of them even has it that Crawford filled her pockets with rocks to make it HARDER for Davis to drag her across the floor.

I have a tendancy not to believe alot of Hollywood hype - and, *IF* it's true that Crawford did indeed put rocks in her pockets to make it harder for Davis to drag her, then it's Crawford who suffered, having her hair pulled alot harder and for longer!!

But either way, who cares!!! - the *scene* is fantastic! :D

swiss tony 06-15-2007 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 610493)
I didn't check the last few pages, so I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but the most underrated horror movie of all time is The Brood (1979). It's one of my all time favorite chillers...it's scary, psychological, twisty, and well-acted.

I can still get creeped out big time when I watch this alone in the dark.

ditto. i watched it for the first time a few months ago and it definitely made my top 20. one question, did they borrow a little from don't look now?

the_real_linda 06-15-2007 02:25 AM

C.H.U.D the bud

alkytrio666 06-15-2007 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss tony (Post 610578)
ditto. i watched it for the first time a few months ago and it definitely made my top 20. one question, did they borrow a little from don't look now?

To be honest, I'm not sure. I haven't seen that one.

texaschainsaw 06-15-2007 07:21 AM

ok, im sure not many people will agree with me, but i really liked the blair witch project. i was one of those people that heard about it way early, and was checking out the website before i saw the movie. they really made it seem real, the website especially. i saw it at some independent film theatre, and it scared the living shit out of me. for like 2 weeks, i thought it was real footage, but once it got out, it ruined it.

Roderick Usher 06-15-2007 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 610633)
To be honest, I'm not sure. I haven't seen that one.

You should seriously check it out. Don't Look Know is really good and really cool and the sex scene between Donald Sutherland and the lovely Julie Christie has long been rumored to have been "non-simulated."

And yeah, the kids in The Brood do seem to have more than a passing resemblance to the kid in the red mack in DLK, but it's odd to think of Cronenberg as the type to reference another film - he seems so self-contained and original.

alkytrio666 06-15-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 610662)
You should seriously check it out. Don't Look Know is really good and really cool and the sex scene between Donald Sutherland and the lovely Julie Christie has long been rumored to have been "non-simulated."

And yeah, the kids in The Brood do seem to have more than a passing resemblance to the kid in the red mack in DLK, but it's odd to think of Cronenberg as the type to reference another film - he seems so self-contained and original.

Will do, Rod.

Hethwheel 06-15-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the_real_linda (Post 610613)
C.H.U.D the bud

:D :D :D :D

Was it not C.H.U.D. 2 Bud the Chud.??????

"We're gonna get you....we're gonna get you!"

Sorry.


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