OK. I take it that angra is a male and you want me to have some fun with him then?

mmmhmm. I thought he was a girl for nearly 2 years.

Would we fool with you??????????
Angra is all woman..
and is such a sexy one at that ..
pm her and say 'hubba hubba baby'
and she is like putty in ure hands :p

Sorry. I can't envision myself ever using the phrase "hubba hubba baby" besides in the context of this post.

I didn't read through all the pages of this thread. I just popped in to address the initial question posed in the subject.

I'm certain that the existence of Jesus is a historical fact. I don't think any person or religion will tell you the man did not walk the Earth. The question or debate comes in as to whether or not he was the son of God, could perform miracles, resurrected after death, etc...

So to answer this question.... Yes. I believe in Jesus. Anyone that doesn't, needs to do a little research.

thank you bwind. This was turning into a elementry school really fast.

Well, I just made the mistake of going back and reading the whole thread... Whooops. Another good thread crashes and burns, huh?

First, I'd like to thank BR for saving me a moment's typing by pointing out to the 'Satanist' that he didn't know what he was talking about. God & the Devil are Christian concepts & since The Church of Satan is not Christian, they do not believe in (or worship) either. Una, you may have just been saying that get a rize, but really all you were doing was making yourself look like you had no idea what you were talking about.

Okay, moving on... Like I said, no one (with any degree of intelligence) denies that Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the man, was at one point alive on Earth. That much is fact. The debate is whether or not he is the son of God like Christians believe, a prophet like Muslims, Jews and a few other religions believe, or simply a good man like atheists and pagans believe.

My ponderance is this though... Does it really matter which is right? In any of those 3 scenarios, we can all learn how to live a better, more moral, more wholesome life by following his examples set forth in the Bible. If you're Christian, you can benefit from following his teachings. If you are a Jew or a Muslim, you can benefit from following his teachings and if you are an atheist or pagan, you can benefit from following his teachings. Why? Because regardless of whether or not he was the son of God, he led a good life and we can all learn from that.

So my take on religion is this... Believe in God if you want, don't if you don't want, but lead a good life either way and the world will be a better place.



In regards to James Cameron's film... It can't possibly prove anything conclusive. For starters, Jesus & Mary were 2 of THE most common names in that era. Secondly, I saw that they were taking DNA samples from the tombs, but what's that gonna prove if there's no other samples of Jesus Christ's DNA to compare it to? It'll all be guesswork & speculation without the possibility of concrete scientific facts to back it up. Because of that, the believers will disavow it and continue to believe while the naysayers will claim it's proof that Christians are wrong and presto... We end up right where we started out.



Anyways, that's my take on the whole thing... I'm agnostic by the way. I don't know what's out there & I doubt I will figure it out in my lifetime so I'm content to just live my life without the answers. (I'd rather do that than spend my whole life believing in something that can't be proven or waste my time searching for answers that are not to be found.)

In all seriousness though..
I do believe in this topic ..more ways than one.

Why must every thread be derailed with schoolyard nonsense?

From what I have read, I can accept that someone named Jesus may have lived in the location and around the time the Christian Jesus was supposed to have lived. However, I do not believe in gods, angels, devils, or any other sort of supernatural entities. If a Jesus actually lived, he was human. Much of the Jesus myth existed in the culture long before the Christian Jesus supposedly lived, and it is rather easy to find how these ancient legends were applied to him by early Christian writers interested in elevating him to divine status.

Hey I know...Jesus is that guy, right?

This is a bit late I know but who cares. satan was gods first angel but he disagreed with god so god gave him the horrible job of ruler of hell. Satan only tries to get people to do bad things to get them down there with him instead of with god. Satanism is about (like stated earlier) praising yourself when you do good or good happens and you don't beg for forgivness for sins, you admit you did wrong and get on with life

I personally think that's a good way to go as far as religions are concerned. It annoys me when people talk about all this sacrificing goats and slicing yourself with knives shit. Just thought I'd get my say in, no matter how late I was. Also, angels hate humans because we have freewill to believe in what we want and worship what we want. They're constantly arguing with god about it and such. By coincidence, my name is Gabriel. And just for the sake of it(and because I like the name) my first born son will be called Azrael.

You gotta stop believing everything you see on tv.

didn't see it on tele. Read it in a really old book in the gothic/magic/anything cool shop in town.

I believe.My real name is Jeremiah by the way,it's from the bible if any of you have read it.

my names bibleier

Ah. Well, then... It must be true.

He has a point, Kid...

lol-That reminded me of Dogma.

The problem with faith in God is it requires....well, FAITH. Religious people love to sstate emphatically that GOD has to exist, but how do you know? You don't. You just take it on faith or on the word of a priest (who took it on faith or the word of another priest). I'm not saying there definitely isn't some higher power somewhere (since I can't prove THAT either), but I would like for those that believe to at least be honest....and say, that they ARE NOT 100% SURE that God and Heaven actually exist. That's all I want in these conversations. I think the overwhelming majority of the Christian community isn't all that certain of anything, but won't admit it. I just want less of the bullshit.

I believe books. They tell me to burn things. gah hoy

Very good ferretchucker........ Idont think it is a question of whether or not it actually exist but if you just have faith. Just like the devil a nother character. I see the devil and god as just a comic charactor. They both are not real. at least to me. I believe we are just here for this exisitence. but to learn as much as we can. about 99% of people don't reach there potential and waste away. what happens after this life I dont think there is a real answer to it. till we experience it. No Living human can answer that question.

Yea what is up with all of these kids in here lol.

I resent that... :eek:


Most of us are kids at heart. :p

i sometimes believe that we go wherever we believe we'll go. If you're christian -heaven/hell, humanist- nowhere, hindu - ressurect. Like stated, it's all a matter of faith. I'll believe when there is conclusive proof nowadays. Jesus came, miracles happened and angels spoke to people. So far, none of that has happened to me and anyone close to me. It was so long ago, for all we know, the bible could hve been a story book that we misinterpretted.

Bill Nye is a poser.

Bill Nye???

I remeber watching that when I was like 6...

That and the one with the people with New England accents and the fat guy in a rat suit...



wow...

Beakman's World (sp?)

Remember the penguins in the beginning? What the hell was that all about? What a weird ass science show.

Aw, man...Beakman's World kicked ass. I have a tape of that somewhere.

bananas in pyjamas, arecoming down the stairs!

I still watch that show (I've got all the episodes) :o



I'm not kidding either




"I'm a rat, I'm a rat, I'm a clever, clever rat"

I had a nightmare about being kidnapped and tortured by one of the bears from that show:(

It was probably Amy, she can be evil sometimes :D

You probably watched the episode where she tied B1 to a chair

Actually, it was Morgan:eek:

Return, only you would have a dream like that:rolleyes:

word to that I like nightmares

My friends, friend Jesus? I guess. Never did anything wrong to me. I'd cheer him on.

Oh, wait...You mean the biblical one.

Nope.