Oh what a sad thing to say about one's sister...

In my state....16 is legal....

You dont know my sister....

i met my wife when we were set up unwittingly by mutual friends...
it wasnt really a blind date - more of an opportunity ..

that was over 8 years ago and we talked every day on the phone after we met, spent every weekend together and eventually moved in together and got married.

pretty intuitive friends...

Vod, yur sister's gotta have some kinda redeeming qualities otherwise no one woulda not done nothing there!

Urge, whata cute story!

She actually had some redeeming qualities until she broke up with that particular boyfriend. After that, she turned into oneo f the most self-serving people i have ever met. i wont air family bullshit here (who knows, may be some legal crap that could come from it...) But you can ask Nchantress(my wife), my sister is a shitty human being. She has done shit in my life that damn near left me emotionally crippled.

but anyway.


Probably the last decent thing she did was introduce me to Bree. We were just goingto chat, and it grew legs REAL fast. we talked every day for the first week after our introduction, met face to face a week later, and were dating by the end of the weekend. 2 years later we were married and now we have a baby that just turned 1 :)

you're the only other guy here who knows what it's like to have retards for immediate family members..

Yeah Vod...My sister sounds like yours...So does my mother...

I feel so left out...my family is pretty normal.

Never big on the dating thing.Of course i've been married for over 25 years so I wouldn't even know where to begin.

Pat yourself on the back and drink a toast. I hope we can last 25 years.

Its friday....most def have a couple of beers tonight.

Believe me....with kids, 25 years flys by.Just keep your sense of humor.....works for me:D

Please...
Between a sister that is the most unlikeable, materialistic snob under the sun, to the manic depressive mother who's tried to off herself numerous times (first taste of that I got was at about age 8) who throws herself at any nutjob that considers her attention-worthy, then blames her children for her inevitable relationship failures (to this day, it's my BROTHERS fault now), then we have the grandparents (now dead) who decided anyone under 20 was scum, the ones on the other side being an alcoholic business owner who lost everything he was ever worth, to his ex wife, the grandmother who sapped off him, while eating herself into a heart attack, and the aunt that's like a younger version of her...pretty much every one of them being a mortal enemy of one or the other at any given time...there's me, my half-brother (miles away), and my dad (who if my mother found out I was associating with at all, would stop me from seeing my brother ever again), wondering what the fuck is going on with all the crazy...
My family is a retard redefinition.
Not tryin' to rain on your parade folks, just sayin' I'm with ya.

Oh, and Olivia...just another thought...you could just spend some time yknow, getting to know yourself as an individual instead of launching back into it...learn how to be "ok" on your own, and perfectly at ease, so when you enter the dating scene again so to speak, you'll have a slightly better perspective about your wants and needs. You don't need anyone to complete you (I don't know how many chicks I've said that to...), so you can always cool out for a bit, think things through, and enjoy the time alone, 'cos if the next one turns out, could be a while before you get to be "just you" again. When something's "right", by the way...age won't be such a consideration, I don't think so anyways...you'll know it, it'll come along.

That's awesome, old man:) I'm gonna hit 10 years with the wife on April 1

yeah, that's right...got married on April Fool's Day! It's all just one big joke to us and it gets funnier every year.

Would love to give you some advice but never really dated so why don't you become a lesbian? :P

I've been reading all the responses and they're all very interesting and useful. Many interesting points of view to consider.

Yes me too. :P Make a vid and send it to me.

LOL if I end up with a girl, I'll make you guys a tape with a summary and everything.


Spending time alone hasn't ever been a huge problem for me....I went for a couple of YEARS being by myself because it was so nice to be alone in a new place.
I think it's always hard when you're used to something and it changes, like trying to stop smoking. You know it's bad for you, but sometimes it's just so damn GOOD. Rationality isn't always a factor. Of course I know the best thing would probably be to take things slow, but at the same time there's that feeling of "Fuck him, I can do WAY better. Watch me."
Hurt pride is a dangerous thing to deal with, it can make you bitter and cruel to other people just because you can.

i'm in that phase at the moment as well - although i'm in the same old place - i've given the whole idea of pursuing 'dates' a rest. . . its been very liberating!

You know, the amazing thing about being alone (in my experience, anyway) is that you really don't get that lonely. I've studied more in the last couple of years than I ever have, and I'm really proud of that. Don't get me wrong, being together with someone worthwhile is a wonderful thing. Being alone is really underated, though.

By all means, Irish, take some time off if you need. Get laid here and there, but just enjoy knowing and loving yourself. It's a great big world, and you seem like a special, level headed girl. I think after all the shit has blown over, you deserve a little me time. Hit a club, visit a museum and just be happy to be you. Life's a beautiful thing; most people who live just don't get the chance to experience it:)

You're awesome, Crunchy.:p

That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

A good friend of mine says "what doesn't kill you, makes you bitter". I like that version, the friend that said it is very intelligant and sarcastic and can describe things in the most amusing matter. Just makes ya laugh.

Anyway, just relax and have some fun and stay safe!

I hate dating, I usually meet people through mutual friends. I met my present BF from mutual friends and we've been together 10 1/2 years. We still drive each other crazy, but at least we know what to expect from each other no matter how much it sucks.

You've had the strength to get beyond that. Observe and think about what you want. And if ya get some pleasant attention from someone, young or old, just as long as it legal and you're OK with whatever, then relax and have fun. Doesn't mean you have to go to bed with them, just relax and enjoy, and hopefully it'll be good weather, light breeze and all that.....um, I need a nap...later.

take em when you can..!!LOL..
5 yr difference is not such a knock back..
age is just a number..experience and how he treats you is the key.. :p

That's also a REALLY good point. Maybe I'm being too judgemental. I'm sure not ALL younger guys are lame.....there are bound to be four or five somewhere in Utah that are good guys.:p

Lame? LMAO!
I've met guys a lot older than me that are lame.
I mean, come on, when you have to sit through someone repeating the same Larry The Cable Guy joke 15 times in two minutes, it gets as you say, lame.
Not to mention the only way him and his brother thought girls were pretty was by the size of their ass.
They never looked at their personality, face, eyes, anything.
As long as they had a nice ass, they would date them.
They were in their 30's and were looking at girls younger than me....

Well then, I must amend my statements as there has been a protest.
There must be at least eight MEN in the whole WORLD who are worth the time and effort.
And the same amount of women, let's be fair. The bottom line is that most people SUCK in one way or another. I'll be the first to admit there are things about me that should be changed.....I have a nasty temper and I can be mean for no good reason.
I guess when you get right down to it, I'm pretty bummed on people in general right now. Of course, I'm not in the best state of mind right now. My PRINCE of a soon to be ex husband asked me if I'd keep the kids last night for a while during HIS weekend and I said sure.....I never saw or heard from him again. I am so far beyond pissed right now, I only got three hours of sleep.
MotherFUCKER in general.

Bah. Fuck him. A special girl like you shouldn't have to try too hard to find a guy who would treat her exactly like she wants to be treated. Last I checked, you lived in CA, not some freak planet where men hate sexy horror geek girls:)?

Seriously, though. Last time I checked, the demand was pretty high for beautiful intelligent women who like stuff like video games, horror movies and the what. One would think that gals like you and Haunted could pick and choose. If your ex is enough of a fucktard to give something that good away, so be it. Don't let it get to you; you'll end up with the better end of the stick eventually.;)

You're awesome. I really hope you're right. This is getting a tad ridiculous.

Yeah....horror geek girls are actually in high demand in California. If you're a little gothy looking and wear geeky glasses, even more so. I forget if you wear glasses, but even if you don't you're ahead of the game. Go to your local alternative music store or hip coffee hangout and give the doods a look-see.

Unfortunately, I have good eyesight.:p

You're right though, I should try to hang out with people who share my interests.....most of the aquaintances I've made during my relationship usually spend their time drinking beer and head butting each other.:rolleyes:

headbutting is a bit much but drinking beer is fucking unreal.

Sidenote, i just bought my third 15 pack in the last 17 hours. No I did not drink all of the first two, it was a shitshow of a night, the kind of night where you wake up in the morning and leave NFL sunday ticket behind and tell one of your best friends to "Have a nice life". man those nights are unreal :rolleyes:

Wow.....that's a lot of beer.
I don't mind drinking beer provided it's not CONSTANT, and that's one of the problems. There is such a thing as too much.
Especially when you're still smoking all my pot.:p

Ok, Me and my family (hubby,2 daughters and baby boy)
went to the local coffee/scone/music/DVD/poetry corner place and oh, it was a bookstore I think too( :D )
Anyway, I noticed ALOT of young hotties there scanning more than the latest best seller.
So-get yourself dolled up and head out to Barnes and Noble on Friday-you'll get more than a latte buzz I'm sure! :)

At least you don't have some asshole trying to control you day after day after day... God I'm so sick of that I could scream. Most of the time I try to pretend everything is all OK here, but it isn't. Far from it. And there are a few details that are preventing me from leaving my situation at this time. You are free now. Take care of yourself! Whatever that entails. Just take this time to heal and spend time with your kids and enjoy it. Keep remembering, you are free now, you don't have to put up with the crap anymore. Take care. :)

You know, I have some rope and a shovel;)

So, has there been any love in this thread yet?

I think so. Maybe not at a couple of our homes, but support between HDC members, yes most definately.

That's nice, I feel all warm, wait that's because it's 35 degrees!

Hey, don't feel bad, it's 23 degrees up here in Minnesota. At least I have a warm puppy to snuggle up to, cuz the man-human ain't getting anything even remotely resembleming cuddling tonight or anytime in the foreseeable future if he doesn't stop his crap. I've had it. Warm puppy warm puppy think good thoughts.....

He's talking 35 of OUR degrees, aka - Fuckin' HOT.

!!!! ;)