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halloweenrules 10-03-2006 07:29 AM

I think we should give him a chance to prove himself as a director to one of the greatest horror movies of our time. however i do think it\\\'s bullshit that he\\\'s in charge of the movie. i think that you guys are right with the whole blood and guts vs. suspense and real terror. but every good horror movie has to have some blood and gore, but not grotesque. i think something that should be added is a freaky ass little kid that no one knows about till the end of the movie and it turns out to be Stephen Lyod( jamie\\\'s son from Halloween: the curse of Michael Myers)

i heard it was supposed to come out on Michael\\\'s B-day next year
which is oct. 19
oh and i don\'t they should remake it i think they should elaborate on what we don\'t know, like what happpened to John Strode ( lauries son)

the_real_linda 10-03-2006 08:14 AM

i think halloweenrules likes josh hartnett....perhaps if robs prequel is successful then he can do a follow up from h2o

makemebad 10-04-2006 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by Burning in Hell
I heard a rumour saying that Sid Haig would play Dr. Loomis. Anybody else heard this?
I haven't but his character does look similar

Geddy 10-05-2006 02:49 AM

on the rob zombie remake
 
I read on IMDB that they were going to make a prequel to Halloween and it would have been about him in the asylum.That might have been cool.

spookpro34 10-12-2006 11:10 AM

Halloween Fan FIlms
 
Anyone make Halloween Fan films or know of any good ones?

atris3 10-17-2006 04:31 PM

agreed
 
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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 474161)
I know I'll see it, but I'm having a tough time trying to imagine myself enjoying it. I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Zombie, both as a director and a fellow horror fan, but I can't see this clinking in with his style.

Halloween is one of my sacreds...I'd hoped it'd never be done, same with The Evil Dead, but it was only a matter of time.



I can't agree more. Halloween basically defined the slasher film. Remaking it just seems wrong. While I'll watch it on DVD just to give it a fair shake, it will certainly never replace the original in my collection!

atris3 10-17-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning in Hell (Post 483899)
I heard a rumour saying that Sid Haig would play Dr. Loomis. Anybody else heard this?

I stand by my earlier concerns about this remake, but that would be a neat casting.

The_Return 10-17-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by atris3 (Post 491276)
I can't agree more. Halloween basically defined the slasher film. Remaking it just seems wrong. While I'll watch it on DVD just to give it a fair shake, it will certainly never replace the original in my collection!

Replace? Never.

Im still hoping that it will be a worthy flick to take it's place beside the original on my shelf.

alkytrio666 10-17-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning in Hell (Post 483899)
I heard a rumour saying that Sid Haig would play Dr. Loomis. Anybody else heard this?

That would be horrible.

The_Return 10-17-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 491307)
That would be horrible.

Keep an open mind.

Thats my theory for approaching this remake...Would Sid Haig be able to give a performance as good as Donald Pleasence? Not a chance.

Would he be able to put a totally different twist on the character? Personally, I think so.

I really hope Zombie decides to take this in some radically new direction...there is no way in Hell that he can re-create the original, so Im hoping to see something new and different. As horrible as it could turn out, Im holding onto faith in ol' Rob.

alkytrio666 10-17-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 491308)
I really hope Zombie decides to take this in some radically new direction...there is no way in Hell that he can re-create the original, so Im hoping to see something new and different.


Sow hy remake it at all, if he's striving for something new and different? :confused:

hypnocil addict 10-17-2006 08:27 PM

i really just hope he doesnt make it to gorey (i love gore, but thats never what made these Halloween films scary), and i swear if i see some blonde bimbo screaming "tuti fuckin fruity" at michael, im leaving. ahah.:cool:

phantomstranger 10-17-2006 10:42 PM

Personally, I'm just sick and tired of all the damn remakes. The reason these films are remembered is because they were ORIGINAL! Maybe it's time for Hollywood to get off it's lazy ass and start making something that is unique and different, like say.. a brand new idea, Not just a tired retread of something we have all seen before.

the_real_linda 10-18-2006 05:41 PM

phantom has a way more than valid point....its what ive been thinking for ages......get some originality..........im not saying htere isnt original stuff out there just too much emphasis on remakes

The Dark Shape 10-18-2006 06:14 PM

You guys should read the Rob Zombie interview. He says it's more of a re-imaging than a remake.

John Carpentar's Halloween theme remains, but it's a little different. Same score though.

I'm really excited as Rob said that the script is nearing completion and they are currently looking at different places to shoot now.

The theatrical release is planned for October 2007.

Prelude95Si 10-18-2006 06:22 PM

I'm a big fan of the original vision of Halloween. However, I am curious to see Rob's take on this movie. I mean I see Rob as being a really violent movie maker, so I think it will be interesting to see how me imagines a movie that was mostly driven on suspense rather than numerous amounts of gore.

AmericanManiac 10-19-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by phantomstranger (Post 491359)
Personally, I'm just sick and tired of all the damn remakes. The reason these films are remembered is because they were ORIGINAL! Maybe it's time for Hollywood to get off it's lazy ass and start making something that is unique and different, like say.. a brand new idea, Not just a tired retread of something we have all seen before.

Well if "Hollywood" is going to get into Horror we are going to get shitty films like "The Curse" Wes Cravens older shit Last house, Nightmare, Hills have eyes were good because He wasn't mainstream yet, he did what he loved. If you stay true to yourself and your fans and not worrying about what some guy in a suit sitting at a desk has to say, your going to put out good work. Its when you have to get approval from these "hollywood" Producers of what your going to do. When you produce your own film or have friends that produce it, it's going to extremely kick ass. Zombie has Carpenters Approval on this remake and I don't think zombie's going to let Mr. Carpenter, Halloween fans, or any of zombie's fans down on this film, as someone said before he knows what is at stake here and being a true horror fan himself this film will be a great film.

Does anyone know what company it's going to be release under ? I think Lions Gate Films are the best for Horror movie's they have more "balls" to show new and different shit.

Doc Faustus 10-19-2006 07:31 PM

If Zombie reimagines Halloween, it's not like it will be in the hands of some suit who doesn't have any interest in or respect for the genre. Rob Zombie is as big a horror fanatic as most anyone on this forum, and is an interesting director who will be smart enough to show the necessary restraint to get into the spirit of Halloween. Halloween is a subtle slasher flick and I think Zombie can tell that's part of the appeal. He was able to carnivalize the atmosphere of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Eaten Alive and other slasher classics, adding a sense of fun and a metafictional edge that a lot of movies don't have. He knows why we go to horror movies and it stands to reason, knows why people love Halloween. I think we should let him prove how much passion he has for the horror genre, if he hasn't already. And in regard to Lion's Gate, they've come up with a lot of hip, original horror, but Lion's Gate horror is still something of a gamble. Lion's Gate is pretty much run by a big rubber stamp. It's good to give struggling filmmakers opportunities, but I think they still need work when it comes to separating the wheat from the chaff. That said, I think back to a quote from some writer (I can't remember who) who was asked if he was disappointed that Hollywood ruined his books. In response he said, "They didn't. They're still right there on the shelves." The source material doesn't change when a remake gets made, nor does the attitude about the original. If Zombie does fail, there will be no end of nostalgia for the original. So, we need not worry about losing Carpenter's classic, or about it disappearing from American culture. Remakes are often offensive and stupid and a shame to the original, but the old material won't get any better or worse. I'm more worried about the Wicker Man remake, since the Wicker Man is a movie that not everybody in America has seen. In this case, curiosity over the original might not be excited.

AmericanManiac 10-20-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 492332)
I think we should let him prove how much passion he has for the horror genre, if he hasn't already.

That's what I was trying to say ! :D

makemebad 10-20-2006 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape (Post 491828)
You guys should read the Rob Zombie interview. He says it's more of a re-imaging than a remake.

John Carpentar's Halloween theme remains, but it's a little different. Same score though.

I'm really excited as Rob said that the script is nearing completion and they are currently looking at different places to shoot now.

The theatrical release is planned for October 2007.

you mean 2008?

Ginger<3 10-20-2006 05:28 PM

i think it's a movie that shouldn't be messed with but i'm dead set against remakes of movies that have sequels ..... so i wasted hours and hours of my time watching things for them to be redone or retold or some other crap. just freaking leave things alone already!! we didn't need another batman, we didn't need another superman we don't need another halloween!!!

The_Return 10-20-2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginger<3 (Post 492747)
we didn't need another batman, we didn't need another superman

THEY ARENT FUCKING REMAKES!!


sorry...pet peeve of mine

Prelude95Si 10-20-2006 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginger<3 (Post 492747)
i we didn't need another batman, we didn't need another superman

These are comic book movies, anything goes with these. Also The_Return said these are not remakes, Batman Begins was a restart b/c the series had gotten so fucked-up after Batman Forever. Superman Returns takes place after Superman II so this is a sequal/restart.

Better conperisons would be The Fog, The Grudge, The Hills Have Eyes, The Amityville Horror, you know actual remakes.

Ginger<3 10-21-2006 04:48 AM

call it a remake, retelling or a restart it still annoys me. prequel or sequel fine but geez these people need to leave things the way they were and have original ideas. why remake the whole series just because the last few movies sucked? that doesn't make the first ones bad. call them mistakes and move on, don't redo it all.

Prelude95Si 10-21-2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginger<3 (Post 492893)
call it a remake, retelling or a restart it still annoys me. prequel or sequel fine but geez these people need to leave things the way they were and have original ideas. why remake the whole series just because the last few movies sucked? that doesn't make the first ones bad. call them mistakes and move on, don't redo it all.

So how do you feel about movies based on novels or short stories?

Ginger<3 10-21-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Prelude95Si (Post 492983)
So how do you feel about movies based on novels or short stories?

that's different, maybe cause it's an entirely different form. and i'm not against all remakes anyway but for some reason remakes/retelling etc of a series annoys me. the idea of "we F'ed up so let's trash it all and start over" is annoying. admit you made a crappy movie and move on or leave it alone completely. and if the movie is good like in the case of halloween why in god's name would you want to mess with it? in my opinion it could never be as good as the original no matter what.

Prelude95Si 10-21-2006 01:08 PM

I see your point. For example I felt the same way about the DVD version of Star Wars, Lucus fucked that up royaly. Those were 3 classic movies that didn't need to be changed to fit the prequals better.

Ginger<3 10-21-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Prelude95Si (Post 493028)
I see your point. For example I felt the same way about the DVD version of Star Wars, Lucus fucked that up royaly. Those were 3 classic movies that didn't need to be changed to fit the prequals better.

i agree 100%. the new additions to the originals stunk.


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