Ok, I just need to comment on this. Now, I havent seen Scream, as Ive mentioned a few times around here. Looks to be a fairly decent film, I saw the last 10 minutes or so on TV. It's effect of the horror genre, however, is legendary. Helped breath life into it? How about helped create a half-assed, self-aware ressurection of the slasher genre? If by "helped breath life into it" you mean the quantity of horror films influenced by it, you have a point. However if you're saying the films that it influenced brought quality to the dying genre...if that's the case, I have nothing more to say to you.

Scream on its own ... was an entertaining fanboy homage to the 80's slasher film. It had fun with it.

UNFORTUNATELY it did resurrect the genre..intentionally or not.

i somewhat agree urgeok. I think it resurrected the genre, but it resurrected the GOOD part of the horror genre, with the good films, unlike the shit we see today.

The first was excellent, the second was just alright, the third was pretty good.

Urban Legends
Urban Legends: Final Cut
I Know What You Did Last Summer
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer
Nine Lives
Valentine
Cry Wolf
Soul Survivors

These are the type of films spawned from the Scream trilogy.

Good?

I enjoyed Urban Legend for what it was. It wasn't anything special, but there are much worse films.

I also somewhat enjoyed cry wolf, I don't care about all the hype about it. It wasn't THAT horrible, and I enjoyed the ending, then the extra part of the ending where you really found out what was going on. The aol idea was kinda neat, and I admit the acting sucked and so did the gore and stuff, but it was a kind of slasher-lite treat for once. The i know what you did... movies are some of my least favorite movies ever, fuckin... terrible... The idea was cool, and it couldve been great if it was done at least 1/5th decently... Never seen valentine.

Urban Legeds had, if nothing else, a good concept. Wasnt executed all that well, but it was a great idea for a slasher.


EDIT- Stupid typos...

I liked (and still do) the first Scream film a lot.
Sure, it borrowed relentlessly...but that was it's whole deal...behind that, I think they managed to string together a pretty decent plot, and some good twists, and a suitably menacing faceless killer.
It was funny, had a few extreme stereotype characters...and some that were just begging to get killed. Not to mention the whole "plot" that revealed itself over the last 20 minutes of the film, I loved that...and that the killers ended up being completely incompetent fucks in the end, their plan makes me laugh every time I watch it, but I have to admit, the first time I saw it, I thought "coooool".

The second was not too bad...had a few nice kill scenes, but seemed to have been more a cash in than anything, in the end. I still enjoyed it upon first viewing, and I liked the dialogue...as a sequel, it was "ok", no problems here.

The third one, I simply cannot enjoy, and I've tried to watch it around 3 times...the killers motive was so fucking water-thin, it's like they were just looking for any possible way to have yet another person want to kill sidney...seemed like every character in the series either got killed off or became an asshole. None of the fun of the last 2 films.

As for the "clones" that came out...I didn't mind the FIRST "I know" film, although I hated just about everyone in it. I think it had a slightly deeper plot, and a more scary atmosphere.
The sequel was complete shit, the first urban legend was ok up until the last half hour...the sequel to that, also shit..I understand there's a third film in the series now....don't know if I'll ever see that. Valentine...now there's a REALLY shitty film.
The rest aren't really noteworthy IMO.

The scream 3 killer was apparently the killer from every scream, or at least the first, if you understood it correctly. It seems like the point they tried to make was that HE was in charge of the idea for the 1st killers in scream 1, and just didnt happen to be there, like he organized it. In scream 3 they find there was a 3rd killer, and it was him, and it made perfect sense to me. He didn't try to blame the movies or peer pressure, he just wanted his sister dead, and i couldn't think of a better explanation than that. I think it was the perfect slasher trilogy, everyone had twists, it was random and fun, easy to watch too. Scream 3 was just weird, cause neve campbell wasn't in it as much.

Q: Who would be considered the most pretentious - Wes Craven (Scream) or Stanley Kubrick (2001)?

hmmm, not sure, but scream beats 2001 any day.

Heh heh!

Citizen Kane would just sooooo kick Scream's arse if the original film reels had fists and legs and were sentient things.

i cant believe that's in print ... anywhere..

HDC strikes again

:eek:

2001 just didn't appeal to me. I even liked hitchhikers guide to the galaxy more.

Ok, but what didn't appeal in 2001?

The depiction of the beginning of man? (Bah! Mere actors in monkeysuits!)

The slow, plodding mid-section? (The stunning cinematography and intense exchanges between the crew and HAL aren't always noted)

The ambiguous, surreal destination? (Where? Who? What?)

Or all the flashy lights? (Seriously, because the final reel is where some viewers get out and decide the film and Kubrick are now taking the piss).

even as a teenager i had respect and love for classic films and appreciated the fact that although the effects may be a bit dated thanks to the latest technological advancement - that they were still amazing works of art.

most kids today cant get their head around the fact that things happened before they were born.

I'm not sure if the fairly recent DVD re-issue was subject to any CGI twiddling - probably not, though with Kubrick no longer around the screen was probably tidied up with some of the old ultra-remastering.

Nevertheless, the special effects are fundamentally awesome - so clearly inspirational to today's science-fiction. And when the brilliantly provocative music isn't blaring, the silence of space really gives a sense of wonder and... size: of the spaceships, of space, and of the big question.

Possibly the only thing that could make 2001 even more a mysterious, ahead-of-its-time masterpiece would be if it was created a few years earlier - in black & white....

it was definately one of the main stepping stones in modern affects.

i dont know what would be considered the main one before that .. but taking up with 2001 on i see it as

2001
star wars
abyss/terminator 2

as far as major speciall effects advancements go.

(i know a lot of subtle things are in between those to make the big ones possible.

and yeah ... the big question ...
thats another reason it gets lost on the majority .. everything isnt spelled out for everyone at the end .

but the worst possible affront to todays sensibilities :

not one big titted blond with a gang of horny teenage kids (each one representing a seperate major stereotype) trying to fuck her was onscreen at all in this film.

that's it.....i'm selling my copy now

I wasn't a big fan of 2001 either and would probably watch Scream over it on any normal day. Now that's not saying I think it's a bad movie, I recognize it's merrits and it is a classic but it's just not my thing on the average day.

Scream trilogy
 

I though parts 1 and 2 of the Scream trilogy were great. Sorry, i just didn't care that much for part three, and thus, have only seen it once. The original Scream did something that no other horror movie dared to do, parody the horror movie genre. It was a great plot with some proven modern day actors. I liked part 2 better than part 1. By the way, where can I get one of those things that change your voice?

so..... fucking..... sick.... of.... this....


SEARCH FOR THREADS.... JUST... SEARCH!

are you listening to me? SEARCH DAMMIT.

i know it gets anoying when there are two threads but when i post a thread i rearly search. i have double posted in the past.


just figured i should help out mr/mrs. insane78


but ill stick to topic and say i agree with you i injoyed the first and second one, but the thrid one was lame. but the first one will always be my fav.

Nothing wrong with posting a repeat thread if there hasnt been one on that topic for awhile...but Posher started one like last week! And it's only on the second page!

No offence man...but I just thought Id point tht out

'ey buddy I didn't start it.

You no... after watching them all again, I think scream 2 beats scream 3, its not as slash happy, but its damn scarier, i.e. *spoiler*



The car scene, and gale in the back room of the theater with those walls.

I've always liked part 2 better than part 3.

Yeah, I think i'd give 2 an 8.5/10, and scream 3 an 8.1/10.< mainly just because scream 3 has the cooliest ending ever.

they were all gay i thought.

Why? Elaborate.

i thought ir was funny.

I respect your opinion, but I'm interested in hearing why you think the first one is "gay".

Heh...I guess not. Seems I look like an idiot right now, eh?

What a HUGE mistake you made. IDIOT!

no... not really.

i like bullet bill

i didnt notice it before i said anything your right there is a thread (at this time) that is about 3 thread under this one and they both have the same name, thats a different situation all together.

why the hell would you just randomly post that.....