But, Sweetie think about it...You don't have to give up your culture, just to learn another language...No one expects someone to change who they are, how they live, or what they believe in, only to change what they KNOW


It's to COMMUNICATE...Not to ASSIMULATE


See?...It's really not so bad...



"Join Ussss"...heh


BTW...I can speak Spanish...But, I'm still...umm..well...whatever the hell I am...We are ALL mixed anyway, ya know...There really is no 'pure race'...

Well we are asking them to change how they LIVE, and as for what they believe in... us Americans will persecute them for that once they're here... but that's a totally different conversation.

And I'll NEVER join you... I'll always stick up for the little mexican guy.

Only in some ways for the better...Yet, WE don't ask them to do that, THEY choose to do that when they decide they wanna live here...They can still prepare and eat the same foods, celebrate the same holidays, decorate their homes the same way, raise their children however they like, etcetera...

Hell, people do that EVERYWHERE...We should all be used to it by now...At least we (Americans) don't do it as bad as some...Ever heard of a little place called 'The Middle East'?


Anyway...This has given me an idea for another thread...:p

Is that the restaurant where they make you penis hats out of newspaper?

I'm not persecuting anybody.

I do agree that they should at least TRY to learn English. Like It's said, we've got tons of ethnicities and cultures, should we try to learn ALL of their languages? Or is it more fair to have someone who is (in most cases) voluntarily moving to this country try to learn English?

Thank you...That's my point


And everyone can 'hold onto' their own language, as well as know another one...You don't have to 'give up' one for the other

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Wah. You don't think they've altered their lives?

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It's not like the reason behind giving jobs to black people over white people is a way to apologize or something. I just think that black people are still effected by slavery and that they are disadvantaged in some degree so that in the result of two equally qualified people, one white and one black, the black person should get the job. If you think that it's a stupid idea, that's fine by me. I'm out of this thread after this post because I'm in the serious minority here and that's no fun.

I'll agree that every spanish only speaking person should learn to speak english, but only on the same ground that english only speaking people should learn to speak spanish.

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Aww, but diversity, and opposing opinions is what makes discussion interesting...

I think we've had some awesome point/counterpoint going on here...

And I appreciate it


Thanks Guys:)

I wanna say a little something about Japan and the Middle East...

You can't immigrate to Japan. If you marry a Japanese citizen, you are still an American living in Japan. You can't become Japanese. However, you can live in America and Japanese- American. Strange little flip, that.

You've all heard of the Crusades: A bunch of nut-hatchs marching into the Middle East (at the behest of a nut-hatch Pope) slaughtering thousands in the name of God, and attempting to snatch the land out from under the peope because the Europeans had deemed the area, "The Holy Land." Oh yeah, and said nut-hatches would often stop along the way and slaughter the Jews that lived in Europe.

Now, it's the Muslims breeding nut-hatches. If they were able, and Iran is really putting forth the effort (fascist asshole government) to pretty much do the same thing except not because they consider the US and Europe as "holy," but because of the opposite. They think we're evil.

Funny how history plays out. As you probably know, I'm not taking up for the terrorists/extremists by any means. I think killing in the name of any deity is stupid. I think killing people, period, is stupid. I'd like to beat up a terrorist/Jihad extremist. I'd also like to beat up most of the hoity-toity shmucks in Europe during the times of the Crusades.

This thread makes my head hurt.

Blacks use slavery as an excuse. Give them their 40 acres and a mule and then tell them thats it not another fuckin word about it.

Social programs were invented by hoity toity white folks who feel bad for the have nots because they have more than need and deserve.

If Babs Striesand is so damn concerned about the poor, the downtrodden and the weak then maybe she should get her lazy beak out of her limo, sell her million dollar homes and give all the money away and go live with the Tibetan Monks.

She expects everyone else to do it, but not her. Yes I know she gives alot to charity, so do I. And my guess is by percentage I give an assload more. But you dont see my face on the tele telling everyone what I have done.

She along with Oprah are too busy stroking their egos.

Give the folks a hand up not a hand out. never mind that teaching a man to fish thing.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal." I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slaveowners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood. I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a desert state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day the state of Alabama, whose governor's lips are presently dripping with the words of interposition and nullification, will be transformed into a situation where little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls and walk together as sisters and brothers. I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together. This is our hope. This is the faith with which I return to the South. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring." And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania! Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado! Let freedom ring from the curvaceous peaks of California! But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia! Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee! Let freedom ring from every hill and every molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"


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