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Dave 12-12-2003 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
BASICALLY. BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS JUST BECAUSE IT'S A DEMON DOES'NT MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE A FREAK IT MOST LIKELY MEANS THAT BUT IT IS'NT LIKE A RULE OR ANYTHING.
that's the same thing i was thinking....Jason isn't a demon though...he is already dead and his face shows the results of what time has done to him...Michael has a face, which we have seen briefly in a few scenes. I wish they would stick with one actor though.

Mercury33 12-12-2003 10:48 AM

I haven't been a fan of horror my entire life, I've only really gotten into it the last 5 or 6 years or so. I saw Friday and Nightmare movies when I was younger (I'm 21 now) but they never really did anything for me, I thought they were more funny than scary. It was Halloween that really got me into Horror movies. I still remember the scene where Jamie Lee Curtis was calling for Tommy Doyle to open the door and watching Micheal just walk after her in the distance...that was the scene that did it for me, I have been hooked on horror ever since then. In time I've come to really appreciate all of the slasher movies, but for a long time I would accept nothing other than Halloween. I know that wasn't really on topic for why Micheal never dies. For that my answer is that he is pure evil. How can pure evil die? And I definatly feel the same way as Leslie, 1&2 were basically one great movie, and thats were i consider the true story to be over. the others are just wonderfully sweet desert.

Leslie Daher 12-12-2003 10:52 AM

;)
 
amen to all the loyal halloween fans!

Dave 12-12-2003 10:55 AM

I've discovered something about horror movies and thought I'd see what you guys thought about it. Horror movies aren't scary. They aren't meant to be. They are more for the entertainment of the horror in the movie, but not meant to install fear in you. That is where Thrillers and Suspense lie. They too have horror in them at times, but they are the ones that are all about scaring you. Horror movies on the other hand like the big three (Freddy, Jason, and Michael) are more about the horror part. Halloween does kind of straddle the fence a bit though with the mannerisms of Michael though, bringing a bit of suspense into it, but it is still more a horror movie than a suspense. That is my take on it, after seeing as many horror movies and thrillers as I have seen. They all seem to go by that formula.

mudsliptones 12-12-2003 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I DO LOVE TALKING ABOUT HALLOWEEN CAUSE I LOVE THE MOVIE AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM DISCUSSING AND TALKING ABOUT IT WITH SOMEONE SUCH AS YOURSELF OR DAVE BASICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT UNLIKE WHOEVER THIS GIRL THINKS SHE IS COMING ON HERE SAYING MICHAEL MYERS SUCKS.THAT'S HER OPINION I RESPECT HER OPINION...I RESPECT ANYBODY'S OPINION UNTIL YOU SAY SOME SHIT LIKE WISHMASTER AND IT ARE BETTER FILMS THAT JUST MAKES ME MAD AS HELL WHEN SOMEONE DOES'NT RESPECT THE FILM FOR WHAT IT IS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST HORROR FILMS EVER MADE. EVERBODY ON THIS FORUM THAT I'VE ARGUED WITH ABOUT HALLOWEEN BEING THE BEST, OR HOW I HATE HELLRAISER WITH A PASSION, I'M SURE YOU NOTICE THAT THE ARGUEMENT GOES ON AND ON UNTIL THE PERSON CONCEEDS AND ADMITS THAT HALLOWEEN IS A CLASSIC HORROR FILM. AFTER YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT HOW PINHEAD IS BETTER OR HOW YOU THINK MICHAEL IS BORING BUT UNTIL YOU SAY THAT HALLOWEEN IS A CLASSIC HORROR FILM I'M NOT GOING TO STOP DEFENDING WHAT I THINK IS THE BEST SLASHER GENRE FILM OF ALL-TIME NOT THE BEST HORROR MOVIE OF ALL-TIME BUT DEFINATELY THE BEST SLASHER FILM EVER. DON'T GET ME WRONG I THINK IT'S THE BEST MOVIE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET EARTH EVER KNOWN TO MANKIND BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THERE'S TO MANY THINGS OUT THERE THAT HALLOWEEN CAN'T EVEN COMPETE WITH I HATE TO SAY THAT BUT IT'S TRUE.
dude, halloween IS a classic horror movie, cmon it's from 1978, it's normal that it isn't as scary as some other movies from 1990 or so
but I love it, the mask, the hair, the eyes, I love micheal, but I like the hellraiser movies better, even friday the 13th, don't ask me why, it's just like that

Dave 12-12-2003 05:17 PM

What the hell have I started haha

Keyser_Soze 12-12-2003 05:19 PM

Someone said that Halloween is not "as scary as movies from 1990????? O my god, what movie from 1990 was scary?

I find it really really funny that people are arguing over opinions . Halloween is a classic, by the very definition. So is Citizen Kane, but I don't like it.

I will argue though that horror movies are just that "Horror". Dave you don't think The Thing was scary? How about The Exorcist or The Omen or The Shining? I have to disagree with you there.
Don

AUSTIN316426808 12-13-2003 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by Mercury33
I haven't been a fan of horror my entire life, I've only really gotten into it the last 5 or 6 years or so. I saw Friday and Nightmare movies when I was younger (I'm 21 now) but they never really did anything for me, I thought they were more funny than scary. It was Halloween that really got me into Horror movies. I still remember the scene where Jamie Lee Curtis was calling for Tommy Doyle to open the door and watching Micheal just walk after her in the distance...that was the scene that did it for me, I have been hooked on horror ever since then. In time I've come to really appreciate all of the slasher movies, but for a long time I would accept nothing other than Halloween. I know that wasn't really on topic for why Micheal never dies. For that my answer is that he is pure evil. How can pure evil die? And I definatly feel the same way as Leslie, 1&2 were basically one great movie, and thats were i consider the true story to be over. the others are just wonderfully sweet desert.
THIS SHIT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER FIRST LESLIE NOW MERCURY.

AUSTIN316426808 12-13-2003 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Keyser_Soze
Someone said that Halloween is not "as scary as movies from 1990????? O my god, what movie from 1990 was scary?

I find it really really funny that people are arguing over opinions . Halloween is a classic, by the very definition. So is Citizen Kane, but I don't like it.

I will argue though that horror movies are just that "Horror". Dave you don't think The Thing was scary? How about The Exorcist or The Omen or The Shining? I have to disagree with you there.
Don

I HAVE TO GO WITH BEETLEJUICE ON THIS ONE I'VE SEEN THE EXORCIST ABOUT A HUNDRED 167 TIMES AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE IT.

AUSTIN316426808 12-13-2003 05:36 AM

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Originally posted by mudsliptones
I love micheal, but I like the hellraiser movies better
ONCE AGAIN I RESPECT YOUR OPINION BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS. LOL

graveyard ghoul 12-13-2003 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
THIS SHIT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER FIRST LESLIE NOW MERCURY.
you can swar on this forum and not get kicked off?? i like this place!!! wah ha ha:D

Mercury33 12-13-2003 11:54 AM

I just saw the Hellraiser movies over the course of the last couple of weeks. They were pretty good, but not exactly my cup of tea. One thing I did love...Almost evertime Pinhead says something, its more bad ass and evil sounding than the last thing he said.

Dave 12-13-2003 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Keyser_Soze
Someone said that Halloween is not "as scary as movies from 1990????? O my god, what movie from 1990 was scary?

I find it really really funny that people are arguing over opinions . Halloween is a classic, by the very definition. So is Citizen Kane, but I don't like it.

I will argue though that horror movies are just that "Horror". Dave you don't think The Thing was scary? How about The Exorcist or The Omen or The Shining? I have to disagree with you there.
Don

Truthfully, I haven't found a scary movie yet. There are some scenes in some movies that make me jump but never a movie that just scares the shit out of me.

However, The Thing is another type of movie that straddles the Sci-fi fence. But not, it wasn't a scary movie to me at all. The Exorcist is the movie that I knew someone would mention, and I'm still not afraid of that movie. There were things in it that were freaky, but for the most part it was just a horror movie. Stuff grossed me out as a kid, but didn't scare me. The Omen was not scary at all to me.

Dave 12-13-2003 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
ONCE AGAIN I RESPECT YOUR OPINION BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS. LOL
haha

Killer Clown#1 12-13-2003 06:12 PM

If part 6 made any sense then yes the reason why he can't die is because his spirit is posessed and his body is not in control of him so if his body is hurt then it does not affect him because his soul lives on. But I hate it when people say "he is just pure evil,errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" that is one lame ass explanation:rolleyes:

Dave 12-13-2003 06:17 PM

Am I the only one that noticed that at the end of part 4 when they shot the crap out of him that his clothes didn't rip at all, yet he flintched alot like he was being hit?

Killer Clown#1 12-13-2003 06:31 PM

Thats just a fuck up

Dave 12-13-2003 06:51 PM

haha, I'd say so...but I love when they do stuff like that (me = MST3K fan)

AUSTIN316426808 12-14-2003 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by graveyard ghoul
you can swar on this forum and not get kicked off?? i like this place!!! wah ha ha:D
HELL YA YOU CAN SWAR ON THIS FORUM YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANNA SAY.

Dave 12-14-2003 09:54 PM

And just when I thought this thread was going away lol...it bounces back like Myers!

Leslie Daher 12-15-2003 08:56 AM

long live the beauty queen
 
Michael is far superior IMO to any of the other baddies and i can't see a flaw though may be i am biased. i watched halloween 4 this past w/e and i loved it. a little similar to the first in pace and gore and that was okay. i LOVE when he's almost at the top of the stairs and they're trapped in the house and foolish brady is trying to fight micheal w/ the gun and he just takes that gun away from him and drops it over the railing..that's what he thinks of them..they're useless against him! talking about him gives me chills! i love him!!!!! watched jason x as well and that movie is fun; i watched the special stuff and they went on about how jason is superior to michael...HAHAHAHA!! WHATEVER! JASON is all right but he's no Mike!

AUSTIN316426808 12-15-2003 09:04 AM

Re: long live the beauty queen
 
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Originally posted by Leslie Daher
Michael is far superior IMO to any of the other baddies and i can't see a flaw though may be i am biased. i watched halloween 4 this past w/e and i loved it. a little similar to the first in pace and gore and that was okay. i LOVE when he's almost at the top of the stairs and they're trapped in the house and foolish brady is trying to fight micheal w/ the gun and he just takes that gun away from him and drops it over the railing..that's what he thinks of them..they're useless against him! talking about him gives me chills! i love him!!!!! watched jason x as well and that movie is fun; i watched the special stuff and they went on about how jason is superior to michael...HAHAHAHA!! WHATEVER! JASON is all right but he's no Mike!
THOSE SANCTIMONIOUS SONS OF BITCHES ACTUALLY SAID THAT ON THE DVD?

Dave 12-15-2003 05:49 PM

It should have been Jason vs. Mike but again, Jason would have to win no matter who he fights. There is a reason for this: Jason X. He can't die before Jason X because if he does, they wouldn't have been able to make Jason X because the main character wouldn't have been available.

AUSTIN316426808 12-16-2003 04:36 AM

GET REAL THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THAT IF YOU GO AND TELL THEM THEY'LL MAKE MORE MONEY IF THEY HAVE JASON LOSE THEN THEY'D DO IT IN A HEARTBEAT.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

Aylmer 12-16-2003 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT PINHEAD.

CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE BOX IS ALL ABOUT?


READ THIS ARTICAL ABOUT THE BOX THERE IS SOME TRUTH BEHIND ALL FICTION I GUESS.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mace/

Leslie Daher 12-16-2003 08:27 AM

i'm soooooo
 
with austin on this it's not even funny. no vs movies it really is doing an injustice to really great films. halloween is a classic truly-why can't we make more sequels that are GOOD!? why ruin something that is so awesome that it stands the test of time. that is genius! hollywood is full of whores who's only goal is to make money and yes! it makes the world go 'round but why trash something good for the sake of making a buck?!

insane78 04-02-2006 10:31 PM

Michael Meyers
 
The problem I have with the Michael Meyers series is they never explained his motive or reason for killing everyone. At least with Jason, Freddy, and Chucky they did that. I don't really buy the reason they gave in Part 6. I also question the killer's motive in "Saw". What a lame reason. He kills because people don't appreciate what they have in their lives. Boo-hoo-hoo. Give me a real motive, like revenge.

Juicy Jon 04-03-2006 02:18 AM

Someone mentioned the Myers head tilt earlier.. I love that. It lets you know he's not a complete murder machine but he apparently has to stop and think for a second too.

Basically Myers, Jason, Freddy, Pinhead are all forms of evil, and there's no real way to kill that. Scripts come up with a way to make you think its finally over and then the next script comes around and he's back again slashing someones face off.


Freddy is my favorite, and the most entertaining. "KUNG FU THIS, BITCH!". C'mon, it doesnt get any better than that

Juicy Jon 04-03-2006 02:26 AM

Re: Michael Meyers
 
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Originally posted by insane78
The problem I have with the Michael Meyers series is they never explained his motive or reason for killing everyone. At least with Jason, Freddy, and Chucky they did that. I don't really buy the reason they gave in Part 6.
Who cares what his motive is really.. He's here and he's right in your face with a butcher knife. Are you gonna be like "MICHAAEELL WHY ARE YOU ABOUT TO KILL ME?" or are you gonna do something about it?

Posher778 04-05-2006 04:37 PM

Re: Re: Michael Meyers
 
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Originally posted by Juicy Jon
Who cares what his motive is really.. He's here and he's right in your face with a butcher knife. Are you gonna be like "MICHAAEELL WHY ARE YOU ABOUT TO KILL ME?" or are you gonna do something about it?
sometimes it's scarier without a motif""

^Scream

filmmaker2 04-05-2006 05:35 PM

Actually, the posts in this thread are scarier than anything in the Halloween series.

filmmaker2 04-05-2006 10:48 PM

Well, yes but no, not really. I'm kidding, actually.

urgeok 04-06-2006 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
MICHAEL MYERS IS POSESSED JUST LIKE FREDDY.

IT'S CALLED THE CURSE OF THE THORN WHICH IS A CONSTALATION IN THE SKY THAT SHOWS UP ON HALLOWEEN AND I'M NOT TO UPDATED ON THE CURSE OF MICHAEL MYERS (PART 6) HAVE'NT SEEN IT IN AWHILE BUT THE SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE CURSE MAKES HIM GO AFTER HIS FAMILY. THAT'S WHY HE CAN SURVIVE EVERYTHING CAUSE HE'S POSESSED THAT SHOULD ALSO EXPLAIN THE SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH YOU ASKED ABOUT. HE'S NOT JUST A ''LUNATIC'' HE'S BASICALLY A DEMON. AND IF YOU WATCH THE CURSE OF MICHAEL MYERS AND REALLY PAY ATTENTION YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND IT CAUSE IT TOOK ME AWHILE TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. MYERS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED YOU JUST DID'NT UNDERSTAND IT THAT'S ALL.

shit .. Austin used to post in all caps :D

filmmaker2 04-06-2006 08:30 AM

freddy is not possessed freddy is just maniac monster that's all

The STE 04-06-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
shit .. Austin used to post in all caps :D
you didn't know that? I forget why he stopped, but I'm glad he did, that shit's annoying

Lorre 04-12-2006 12:48 PM

I love Halloween. I've probably seen it a hundred times. Who cares what Michael's motive is? Why does he even have to have one? Why can't we just say that he kills because he wants to and shut up and enjoy the movie.

There are certain movies that require you to really focus and pay attention otherwise you're lost, but I do not think that Halloween is one of them. If you're sitting there wondering about continuity problems then you really aren't just enjoying the movie for what it is. It's entertainment.

Posher778 04-12-2006 12:55 PM

Re: ARGH!
 
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Originally posted by Leslie Daher
H20 AND RESURRECTION ARE NOT A PART OF THE HALLOWEEN SERIES AT ALL IMO!! JUST A WAY FOR SCUMMY HOLLYWOOD TO GET THEIR HANDS ON A WONDERFULLY CLASSIC IDEA AND RUN IT INTO THE GROUND! IT WAS AWFUL BOTH OF THEM! I CONSIDER H20 TO BE A RE-MAKE OF THE CLASSIC HALLOWEEN AND JAMIE LEE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF FOR BEING A PART OF IT AND RESURRECTION WAS A SEQUEL TO H20. THERE IS NO HALLOWEEN W/O DONALD PLEASANCE. IT'S JUST SOME DORK RUNNING AROUND IN A PSUEDO WANNA BE MICHAEL MASK! THEY STINK!
I actually thought H20 was ok. Could have been a lot worse, but i think once the 4 teens start getting killed off was when I started caring about it.


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