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Spallalala 10-30-2005 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
I cant stand by idley and let him put her down like that.
Its funny you say that trippin because I think the same way when people bitch at cheeba. Im not gonna sit by and let people in here have a go at him for voicing his opinion.

MoonLit Meadow 10-30-2005 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Spallalala

And Meadow it is possible to control what you are doing to yourself.

Maybe, but not until you get the right kind of treatment...and like I said, even then...sometimes there's nothing that can be done...trust me...not that Haunted is a schizophrenic or suffering from psychosis, etc...but those who are...they can't help themselves...it's a disorder that in most cases, is so severe that it needs therapy and often medication.

Marroe 10-30-2005 12:26 PM

no one is degrading her...just trying to make her realize this is no way to get attention. I mean, name one other good reason you'd TRY to kill yourself, then post a thread about it on a forum, or attempt the act all? If people really want to kill themselves for any reason other than attention...they'd suceed. Not trying to sound morbid about it, but it's true.

pinkfloyd45769 10-30-2005 12:29 PM

Im not on anyones "side"..... no wait, I have only been a member here for a few months and since then all I ever read is bullshit bitching and then the few that chime in to stir the shit, my point is, as I have told another member(you know who you are;) ) there are only a handful of people on here who have been a friend to me in my times of need and I intend to do the same! To everyone who feels the need to post another rediculous comment on this thread, the more you stir shit the worse it smells, I think it should just stop!!!!!

MoonLit Meadow 10-30-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by pinkfloyd45769
the more you stir shit the worse it smells, I think it should just stop!!!!!
Mine smells like roses, yours doesn't? muahahahah;) :p I kid, I kid. Wait, no I don't...it really does smell like roses.

Spallalala 10-30-2005 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by MoonLit Meadow
Maybe, but not until you get the right kind of treatment...and like I said, even then...sometimes there's nothing that can be done...trust me...not that Haunted is a schizophrenic or suffering from psychosis, etc...but those who are...they can't help themselves...it's a disorder that in most cases, is so severe that it needs therapy and often medication.
Treatment or not. It is possible to control your actions. You just decide if you wanna go through with something or not.

I do believe that Haunted has admitted to having something wrong. ( if im wrong my apologies )

pinkfloyd45769 10-30-2005 12:36 PM

I think everyone agrees she has some issues, so why is it so wrong to support her??

stubbornforgey 10-30-2005 12:39 PM

gee funny that came up ..
yesterday had a visit from my nephew who was SO ANGRY with his ex girlfreind..'he showed me a txt which read'..
soz to let ya no but ***** was killed last nite in a car smash'her lst words woz to tell u tht she loved u till the end'

of course he was devastated untill he was at the florist when he bumped into her brother..turned out to be a huge LIE.
Her own brother was disgusted ..so he has told her to lose her number ..cos thats sick shit..!!now shes txting for forgiveness..how do you forgive someone for spinning crap like that..??
I dont think u can.

Marroe 10-30-2005 12:39 PM

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more right. Have you ever been in a psych ward? Have you ever seen mentally ill patients? THEY CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES!!
and did YOU know that people that are truely psychotic, don't know it

slasherman 10-30-2005 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by slasherman
hmmmmm....cant help
..:rolleyes:

Spallalala 10-30-2005 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Nobody bitched at him. I simply made views that I thought he was wrong. He felt compelled to argue his case, admirable, but that doesnt make him any more right. Have you ever been in a psych ward? Have you ever seen mentally ill patients? THEY CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES!! So your prior statement is wrong. Thank the higher being that Haunted had enough mental capabilities to realize she needed help. Whether it be by coming here or going to the psychward. Either way, she is dealing with it.
Bottom line is this, there are people in this world that cant handle things as others do. They must be taught to do so. Tough love is one way, but there is no love tough or otherwise in calling someone who needs help a self-centered asshole. I'm not attacking Cheeba, I'm attacking his insensativity towards his fellow man/woman.

If you think its not possible to control yourself, then so be it.
I dont think my statement is wrong.

I have never been in a psych ward but my I know someone that has worked in the area.

stubbornforgey 10-30-2005 12:42 PM

'm sorry but I reckon Haunted's right. You are all silly. petty boring fuckers



What the fucks up with that..??
This Haunted is spinning on one side an stabbing on the next..??

shit enough of coronation street drama's..lets get back to what thi forum is all about ..HORROR DISCUSSIONS

MoonLit Meadow 10-30-2005 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by stubbornforgey
'm sorry but I reckon Haunted's right. You are all silly. petty boring fuckers



What the fucks up with that..??
This Haunted is spinning on one side an stabbing on the next..??

shit enough of coronation street drama's..lets get back to what thi forum is all about ..HORROR DISCUSSIONS

Why would you even want to discuss ANYTHING with all of us silly, petty, boring fuckers? ;)

Marroe 10-30-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by stubbornforgey
'm sorry but I reckon Haunted's right. You are all silly. petty boring fuckers



What the fucks up with that..??
This Haunted is spinning on one side an stabbing on the next..??

shit enough of coronation street drama's..lets get back to what thi forum is all about ..HORROR DISCUSSIONS

why not mosey on over to another thread then? Another forum? No offense sweetie ;) general discussion area here.

pinkfloyd45769 10-30-2005 12:47 PM

Good point MM, I guess thats what I meant by the ones who feel the need to chime in!

Spallalala 10-30-2005 12:47 PM

Stubborn, obviously your not clear on the situation. I suggest you stay outta it.

I think all the arguing isnt helping either. Haunted some advice. Start from the bottom, and work you way up slowly. Dont rush yourself. You will get yaself sorted, just takes a lil time.

Ritualistic 10-30-2005 12:50 PM

Haunted you know if you ever need me I am here.

stubbornforgey 10-30-2005 12:54 PM

..none taken ..was just wondering about that post from fanny (2nd or 3rd page).

Spallalala 10-30-2005 12:59 PM

How about people give ideas on how Haunted can help herself instead of saying sorry or bitching about her mental state. Im sure its not helping her at all.

pinkfloyd45769 10-30-2005 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Spallalala
How about people give ideas on how Haunted can help herself instead of saying sorry or bitching about her mental state. Im sure its not helping her at all.
I agree! Im sure the bitching isnt helping. How can we help you Haunted????

pinkfloyd45769 10-30-2005 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Well, I thought I was adressing the mental illness issue, but I could be wrong. And that's all we were trying to do before Cheeb insinuated that I was using this to wave my dick in her face. But I'll agree. There's plenty of us here that are willing to help her. But the negativity, I'm sure hurts. And she doesnt need any of that.
I think you have a right to bitch,but I know Haunted knows you are here to help her. Im here for her to and I hope she gets better!! I also agree that the negativity isnt helping.

Spallalala 10-30-2005 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
And that's all we were trying to do before Cheeb insinuated that I was using this to wave my dick in her face.
Im pretty sure he didn't say it like that did he.
Maybe you should stop acting like a perverted dick around certain females in here then.

Anyway enough of that.

meetthecreeper 10-30-2005 01:46 PM

Haunted-you know where I am if you ever need me. I pray to the Gods that you feel better. I love you so very much.

Trippin the Riff-I dont care if your a perv. What man isnt??? Kudos to you brother for doing what you do.

Cheebs-Disappointment-thats all I can say. I know a thing or 2 about you. The pot shouldnt be calling the kettle anything.

By the way watch for my sign. I give out one and thats it. Next time no mercy. By the by, I feel for you also in the pain you have gone thru. But instead of acting this way, maybe you should be a bit more understanding. If you cant do that then maybe you should just be quiet.

Oh yea and anybody who just came in here to be a jagoff. Dagda got something for you.

novakru 10-30-2005 02:36 PM

I don't care who you are or what you've done-if you're at a low point-I'll say something uplifting and/or positive,if I am able.

Also,this just occured to me.
I am not so sure my previous attempt at suicide when I was young and in serious pain from abuse after abuse that it would have had much affect,but it would now.
I have kids now and that changes everything.
It Would be selfish now,and thank goodness I won't allow myself to fall into that comfortably numb emotion that beckons daily.
And thank goodness I have people around me now that WOULD say something to shake that mind-set when I do not feel I have the energy to do so for myself.

This is a tough issue,and I am not really sure what can make it better-I just know once someone is set on one extreme or the other-it rarely changes.

Haunted 10-30-2005 02:54 PM

Dagda gotta get behind The Morrighan;)

I'm determined to have a really great Samhain despite defecation from the mouths of the unconscienable. (It means- those without conscience- a truly horrible condition).

Unfortunately, I DO have psychosis, and thats just fyi. However, it's not my main issue. That would be "acute chronic depression" as the diagnosis reads. Mental illness runs in my family like wine. I couldn't escape it if I tried.

I swear to Goddess I was not attention whoring. I really and honestly just needed to spill my guts. There was no where else to go. As I said, I was alone, hurting, and more than a little upset. I needed a place to unleash. You can bet your ass I won't come here for any support again.

Well, to those of you who maintained contact and friendship, I've figured out how to send one private message to a lot of people. So, if I ever get in a bad way again, I'll pm you guys with my phone number. That way, I can hear friendly voices (yes there's a pune there).

Once again, I'm really sorry this thread has escalated the way it has. I was expecting a few "Get well girl! Here's my number..." and then it'd fade into obscurity like the rest of my threads. (The one thread....sheesh :rolleyes: )

Thanks to those who've at least tried to understand. A big thanks to who've been supportive through "hell week." A big raseberry to those who don't know what in the cornbread hell they're talking about. Finally a big middle finger to anyone who called me a name or was in anyway derrogatory.

As you can tell I've made friends with the WWW (Wicked Witch of the West), and she's teaching me some tricks. So some of youse betta watch out!;) What with it bein' Samhain and everything.

Marroe 10-30-2005 03:08 PM

well this is from Cheeba...see he can't post because he was banned And if you feel the need to ban me for posting this for him, all is well. It's bullshit, but all good.



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p.s. why are australians such whiney bastards anyway?
Neither race or nationality defines you as a person...don't embarrass yourself, and do not speak ill of my countrymen.

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its doesnt give you the authority on the subject..
Never said it did, just that I was in a valid position to comment.

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Sorry to you as well Cheeba for what you have went through in your life, but it seems to me you would be more compassionate
I don't waste my compassion on those that would (potentially) use it to justify further attention seeking attempts on their life...I would not want to live with myself otherwise.

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Have you ever been in a psych ward? Have you ever seen mentally ill patients? THEY CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES!!
So, if your daughter happened to have her throat slashed in her sleep...and they found that the murderer was mentally ill, would you want to go any easier on him because he CLAIMED that he couldn't control himself? Even if in fact it was true, and he couldn't, would you feel no anger?
Suicide IS murder...it's just that the intended victim is ones self.
Their family and friends still have to deal with the loss, and I don't believe a person could be so far gone that they'd not so much as consider this. You might, I don't.
Ask Haunted...case in fact...is she actually saying that she didn't know what she was doing and literally could not control herself?
I'm thinking not.
As I said, it was either an inconsiderate (look it up) asshole of an act, or a very selfish cry for help. I'm not going to be made to feel sorry for saying what I've said...it's justified, and your inexperience in the matter serves only to cloud your judgement, I'm afraid. Your hearts bleed only nonsense...if it were an attempted murder, you'd have a different reaction, you don't have to agree, I know. Would you coddle them too? Tell THEM it was all ok? Be there for them?

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We know this. And I think the majority believes its better to support her than it is to ridicule her
I did not RIDICULE anything.

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And that's all we were trying to do before Cheeb insinuated that I was using this to wave my dick in her face.
Fair enough, in hindsight, it was a little below the belt. When one is judged and called a coward for their views, by one attempting to use such as leverage in an argument that shouldn't even BE one, one responds in kind. THIS one anyway. Your actions were in the past innapropriote, and I just thought I'd join in on the character assassination too, I didn't like it, I take it you didn't either.

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Cheebs-Disappointment-thats all I can say. I know a thing or 2 about you. The pot shouldnt be calling the kettle anything.
ABOUT me, sure. I'd believe that.
However, you don't KNOW me, so any information you claim to have about me is biased at most. Now, I don't know you either, but from what I've seen, you seem smarter than to follow blindly like...how would you put it? sheeple?

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instead of acting this way, maybe you should be a bit more understanding. If you cant do that then maybe you should just be quiet.
So you're saying your individual viewpoint is the be all and end all on this matter? It's because of my understanding that I say these things.
I should be quiet, eh? Well, I've said pretty much all I have to on the matter...and I can see that the majority of (if you don't mind me using your terminology yet again) SHEEPLE in here are only going to rip into me for simply being realistic, while they have no REAL understanding of the matter at hand...I see I'm not convincing anyone...maybe someone has to die, hm?
Perhaps if more people turned their back in disgust, little miss gimme would consider other, more productive ways of gaining recognition and attention, rather than thinking that at least if she fails again, she can fall upon the idiot matress instead.

Sorry to crash your sympathy party.
Seems I don't have a choice in the matter on whether to follow up on this discussion further or not, as I've been banned. Banned for voicing my opinion, it seems it's ok for anyone to rip into me, even in borderline racist ways...but when I speak the truth, I get banned.
Well, thankyou to whatever mod banned me...I expect you're busy running about with your damage control now, deleting my posts, by all means, you may...all those of any relevance have seen what I wanted them to, and will hopefully see this reply also. So I join the ranks of the banned knowing that I spoke only the truth you seek to supress, because you don't want to hurt anyones feelings. You're doing a GREAT job, don't let anyone tell you different.
I only request that you don't hold my friend responsible for doing this for me.

- B

Spallalala 10-30-2005 03:37 PM

Fucking Ridiculous .
Must be pretty easy to get banned in here then.

crazy raplh 10-30-2005 03:47 PM

good luck

stubbornforgey 10-30-2005 03:49 PM

Banned??
for speaking an opinion??

Haunted 10-30-2005 05:09 PM

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthre...threadid=17292

The STE 10-30-2005 05:34 PM

See, this is EXACTLY why I posted a jokey, non-commital phrase and left. But since shit hit fan anyways...




Okay, I'm confused. Did Haunted out-and-out say it was a suicide attempt, or just cutting? Cause it seems like everyone's saying "suicide attempt" EXCEPT her.

Marroe 10-30-2005 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by stubbornforgey
Banned??
for speaking an opinion??

and hey, if you ever want someone banned all you have to do is suck on any one of the moderaters toes for a while...they'll do whatever you say. it's insane that we lost such a good poster/topic starter because they wanted to show a different perspective. Whether or not someone was my friend, or USED to be, I'd do it the same way. Nothing works better than a reality check.

I just hope for your sake Haunted, that you took something from some of those posts...as mean as they sound, it's all true. Hurting yourself is no way to gain attention. No matter what is wrong, it's not that bad. Things always work out for the best in the end, you just gotta see it thru. I don't even know if you read my post about my mother, or if it's even still there...but could you imagaine losing a mother over a man? I couldn't...and I had to get really fucking mean about it before she understood what it was doing to me, and our family. And I know your family, and friends couldn't imagine losing you for whatever is going on in your life now. Even if it wasn't a suicide attempt...you're still hurting yourself, and it could lead to death if you're not careful. Start considering others more...I know you wouldn't want to lose anyone like that.

The STE 10-30-2005 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Marroe
Even if it wasn't a suicide attempt...you're still hurting yourself, and it could lead to death if you're not careful.
Exact same thing could be said about smoking or drinking.

Marroe 10-30-2005 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by The STE
Exact same thing could be said about smoking or drinking.
this is true. And when I had a drinking problem going on, I was so glad someone threw it in my face like they did...Like I said, people need reality checks every once in a while.

The STE 10-30-2005 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Marroe
this is true. And when I had a drinking problem going on, I was so glad someone threw it in my face like they did...Like I said, people need reality checks every once in a while.
Not knowing what went on with the drinking problem or who threw it in your face (hell, it could've been me for all I know), I can't comment on that.

But "drinking problem" =/= this. This is more comparable to "drank to much last night and got alcohol poisoning"

Marroe 10-30-2005 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Ugh!!!! Marroe, I never attacked the man, just the insensativity he so knowingly and willingly displayed. If he so had the right to display that type of anger and diappointment, I so had the right to comment on it. The girl came here for help from her "so called" friends and was met with anger and hostility. I'm sure that the mod who saw fit to do this would have done it to any they felt deserved. Everyone know's I've been on that end of the rope. And deserved it at one time.

Now on the matter of the "my daughter" scenario. There would be no limit to my anger if that were to occur and trust me when I say the right authorities better catch up with the person responsable before I did. Totally different situations. There is a difference in bodily harm to yourself as opposed to that on someone else. And although I would understand that this person could not help themsef, I would most definately be extremely angry and vengeful.

Had Cheeba had chosen to show his disappointment with out the namecalling and the verbal attack he had no problem posting, I'd have kept my mouth shut. But he didnt so why should I?

why "UGH!!!! Marroe" me? that was him, not me. I was just doing a favor. Call me out on one of MY opinions if need be....but I don't see much of a need here.

Marroe 10-30-2005 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by The STE
Not knowing what went on with the drinking problem or who threw it in your face (hell, it could've been me for all I know), I can't comment on that.

But "drinking problem" =/= this. This is more comparable to "drank to much last night and got alcohol poisoning"

and if someone you cared about got too drunk and got alcohol poisoning, and then went and did the same damn thing to themselves a week later, and you spoke nicely to them about their issue, then they turn around and do it a 3rd time...would you be nice about it then? I'd hope not. Things get a little silly after a while.

Not saying you said anything about it , just trying to make a point here...hope it came thru.

meetthecreeper 10-30-2005 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Marroe


ABOUT me, sure. I'd believe that.
However, you don't KNOW me, so any information you claim to have about me is biased at most. Now, I don't know you either, but from what I've seen, you seem smarter than to follow blindly like...how would you put it? sheeple?


So you're saying your individual viewpoint is the be all and end all on this matter? It's because of my understanding that I say these things.

- B [/B]
Well I dont agree with the banning. I think that is a little bit of nonsense seeing is all he has to do is come back with a name change.

Yes I don't KNOW you. Is my info bias. Perhaps. But I draw my own conclusions and dont paint everything with such a broad stroke of a brush.

Perhaps I will visit you in a dream some night and we can discuss further.

And I would never say that my view is the end all be all of anything in anyway. As a matter of fact I welcome all viewpoints and digest them individually based on there own merits.

I understand you have been thru similar situations. Do you think your brand of "TUFF LUV" makes things any better????

There is a difference between giving somebody an ass kickin' cos' you care for them and then there is just being rotten.

I dont care if she was crying out for help or not, when a human being is down do you give them your hand and help them up or do you put your boot on their throat and kick them while they are down???

Again Cheebs, its BS that you got banned but I would like it if you would carefully consider what I have said and then think about what you said. Maybe you were being a bit harsh?

Just for the record, normally I would be swinging my battle axe like a beserker right now, but I am in too good of a mood for that for tomorrows evening celebrations.

The STE 10-30-2005 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by Marroe
and if someone you cared about got too drunk and got alcohol poisoning, and then went and did the same damn thing to themselves a week later, and you spoke nicely to them about their issue, then they turn around and do it a 3rd time...would you be nice about it then? I'd hope not. Things get a little silly after a while.

Not saying you said anything about it , just trying to make a point here...hope it came thru.

No, but that situation is still not this situation. THAT is a drinking problem.

I understand your point, I just don't agree with it in the least

Marroe 10-30-2005 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Marroe, there's a difference between being angry and being mean. He was just mean. That never makes anything better. Maybe being mean worked in your situation, but I hardly think it works in every situation.
hey, I think I used the word "mean" also...not "angry". When all else fails with someone, what else is there to use? I'm not saying I don't feel bad that Haunted has problems...we all do, but we're all not trying to kill ourselves, or hurt ourselves in any way because of them. I think that anyone who uses suicide attemps, or cutting to get attention needs to be told how they're acting...EVEN my own mother.


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