yeah .. i've made mistakes ..none of them are crimes.

i didnt go 'oops - i just destroyed a childs life'

you get drunk, hop in the car, kill a family ... is that another little mistake ?

no - its another fucking crime ...

fuck people and their mistakes.
their birth was a mistake.

i'm trying, but everytime i hit refresh, someone else says something, basically what i'm trying to get at is that no matter what the crime, people can still be forgiven, and yes, some people on these websites do deserve death, but if they 'fess up, and get some help then we should move on, not execute, or torture, or anything like that

not at all, public humiliation is what is needed.

A child is humiliated under the rapists terms, so the rapist should be humiliated under the childs parent or guardians terms... public persecution and punisment is what is needed.

now there's a grade a mentality! lets kill everyone and move on! and then what... and yeah, i'm glad you brought the getting drunk thing up, people make horrible mistakes like this all the time, but do we execute them? do we put their faces on a website, do we post in a forum, "look wat this drunk asshole did, and get this! he lives near me!" no, why is that?

these fuckers cant be helped.

they arent human..they can't function in society without destroying the lives of everyone they come in contact with.

they are wired wrong - and there is no way to rewire them.

if you are a hetrosexual - do you think you can be 'healed' into being gay ?

or vice versa ?

not a chance - you are what you are.
if children sexually excite you now - they always will .. and you have no fucking place on my planet.

I have no sympathy for pedophiles or anyone that harms a child. At all. And I believe they deserve whatever they get and more (I have known of too many that serve a few years just to be released to attack another child).

But, I may be wrong, I have heard that even men that served time for statutory rape are on these lists because they are sex offenders. And I think there is a huge difference between a twenty-five year old man having sex with a fifteen year old girl who maybe he thinks is eighteen and a man that rapes a three year little girl (just examples of degrees).

well, seeing that shit like that works, i would have to call you wrong on that one BUT! you are right in thinking that some can't be "rewired" but thats like saying druggies and stuff like that don't belong in your world either, if you do drugs then you're wired to do drugs, so get rid of them, and people that speed, them too, ooh and people that drink... or the people that do this, or the people that do that, hey... i just relized somethin, people are different! EVERYONE'S WIRED DIFFERENTLY! i'm not attempting to say they're all right, i'm just saying that SOME PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES! and they should be punished accordingly, not FUCKING PUBLICALLY EXECUTED!

thank you!

i dont know !! we should !!!

if you fuck with other peoples rights - you just forfeited your rights

end of story.



i'll assume you are too young to understand whats happening in the world ... i was once too..

but i just spent 44 years listening to shit in the news .. the same shit most people take for granted ...

killing for the fun of it .. raping, molesting and killing children.
i hear it every fucking day of my life and i have to turn the radio off to keep me from weeping.

but holy fuck, lets do the right thing and take care of these scum - after all , they are people too ! we are better than them .. so lets make another failed attempt to rehabilitate the uncurable.
then they can attack someone elses child and we'll explain to the parents that loved that child why this fucking piece of shit was allowed to offend again.

this is a planet of excuses .. everyone has a fucking excuse.

2005 and its still the wild west - predators and prey ...

time to wake up.

agreed. Statutory rape gets tossed on guys who think with their dicks and piss off underaged girls often, but Pedophiles are the ones who should have their pictures up. if they have both, they should at leats detail the crimes.

for dante, read this if you havent alread:
the damage is in the wiring. send it back to the factory.

i agree re. the blurred line there ...
i'm definately talking about children.... or any forced interferrence - of any age.

hey dude, guess what, people can change, we live (or at least i do, i'm not sure where your from) the greatest country in the world where we can express our feelings and ideas freely, and i totally respect yours, but seriously... why kill them? they're people just like me and you, they're not the living dead, and they don't have some kind of "social plauge" some do granted, some totally turn around and yes, some do relapse, but don't they deserve a second chance?

just do one thing for me ...

use the internet .. check out the stats on re-offenders ...


(by the way - i live in canada - which is actually THE greatest country in the world :D

last i checked there was a thread of "What to do before you die" or something like that, and i believe someone said a three way with two SEVENTEEN year old girls, and yet no one seemed to correct him, 18 is legal, 17 and his ass would be on that list, so wait... isn't he just as bad as the people on this list? by your standards he is... so hey, why didn't anyone say any of this shit then?

lol, well the TWO greatest countries in the world (three w/ our pals the British) :D

Absolutely not.

if they fuck up once with one person, they have ruined one life. if they are given a "second chance" and they fuck up again, thats two. so do they get the opportunity to fuck up at least 2 lives before they are punished? why not 3 chances? or 4?

because the guy who said it was probably 16 or 17 ..


if not - then that is fucked.
i didnt see it.


i want my 3some to be with older women .. (30's - 40's) they got it going on.

and how about all the cases overturned by DNA evidence, and how about all the people proven guilty but are actually innocent, and what about the kid that lies, and says, "mommy mommy, that kid molested me" when in all actuality, she just doesnt like the man... wat about all that... hey i know, lets BURN THEM!

well if they float on water and are made of wood...

lol

that is the problem with our court system, innocent people get convicted, on occasion, and guilty are set free, on occasion. do we have no punishments on th eoff chance that someone didnt do it? better to err on the side of caution, maybe?

Has anyone close to you ever been molested or raped? get to know someone. It makes you calous to those kind sof people real quick. there is no second chance for the victim. their life is ruined, they have to live with someone else's mistake. there is no forgiveness for that, the harm is forever.

i do think that there should be a cap on exactly how many chances you get (i.e. 2 chances) and then yeah, you're basically fucked, but not to death, to an asylum or something, the only thing that warrants death is death

yeah, my sister was molested by well, none other then my uncle, which i guess is the REAL reason i fight so adamantly for it... and he's fine, he doesn't do anything like that nor would he ever if he wasn't piss drunk at the time, my sister tho, still doesn't talk to him, but she's fine too, she's completing college next year in business... so yeah, i do...

so they fuck one kid, shame on them, but lets make sure the first assault was just a mistake.

Oops, he fucked another little kid. yep, he's a bad guy incarcerate him.

do you have kids? do you want your kid to be the oops? tell him.her to live with it, the guy just made a mistake. he didnt mean to hold you down and hurt you like that, he was having a bad day.

you know, the catholic church followed that philosophy, and as a result, father james porter raped and molested over 100 kids.

Oops.

Wow, drunk. Nice excuse. No offense, but if i knew someone like that and he even glanced at my kid, i would warn him. next glance would get him a trip in an ambulance.

he wouldnt get a third, becuae if he came around again, i would kill him.

hey yeah lets just look at the bad, yeah, that always works huh, lets not however, look at the countless positive additions and contributions made in society by the people who were reformed, oh no, we can't do that

wow... aren't you an awsome example to your kids

I feel sorry for the ones that are falsely accused and falsely convicted. And I am often very peeved by the police procedures that lead to these kinds of convictions....but they are in the minority. And while I want to believe that everyone deserves a second chance, I wouldn't dare put any child's life on the line to give that person that second chance. Look at the sheer number of repeat offenders and how their crimes actually worsen. The number that go in for rape and get out a few years later and start actually killing. It is frightening. And lots of times it could have been prevented.

But again, I see where you are coming from....to a point. Some people do make mistakes and then can change. I just wouldn't want to risk anyone I loved by betting on that.

I dont believ that they do reform. in every case i have read about the guys who were serial pedophiles or went on to kill to cover their tracks, they all "reformed" at some point. that was usually when the really disgusting shit started.


I look at the bad with this because there is no good in it.

If my kid(s) defend their family the same way, the abso-fucking-lutely.

Of the people I know that had that stuff happen to them when they were young, some turned out real, real, REAL screwed up. Some are emotionally dysfunctional, some are sex addicts who don't understand or care why they are that way, some eternally angry and violent towards the world because of experiences they are still unable to process or assimilate.

it was no ones business anyways, I never wanted to bring it up here, its over-good ridance. I gross myself out.

yeah buddy, there is good, there's always good, no matter what the circumstance, they'res always good in someone... aside from hitler and a handful of others, there's always good

even hitler loved, and I come from a verr jewish family. If it wasn't for Hitler, my family would have never come here, and I would have never been born. Some days that would be a good thing, but all and all I enjoy living.

at what cost? "hey your dad killed a man because he looked at you funny... yeah now he's on death row"

yeah... i sure would be damn happy to hear that... but then again, maybe it is a good thing your kids protect their family(ies) but to what extreme?

i know there are those that simply make mistakes. Oprah Winfrey was raped by a cousin who was basically a confused kid. he took her out for ice cream later to try and make up for the mistake.

here is the point i am trying to make (i dont pretend my opinion is correct. i will continue to defend it though). I know "prevention" rarely happens. if the death penalty was a real preventive measure, people would not kill in states that have it. BUT, it does prevent some.

When it comes down to it, i truly think they should be given life sentances like most murderers. just make sure everyone in the prison knows who he is and what he did.

And if "prison justice" stops him from ever seeing his first parole hearing, so be it.

well i didn't want to say that because if i'd said it i'd have caught hella flak for saying it

Hey, you caught flak anyway? what's one more thing? :)

when you go to prison, people know what it is you did, and child molesters do not get treated nicley not by inmates and not by the guards. The truth is is that what they do is so disgusting that its hard for anyone to see anything beyond the crime.

Hey, thats cool that you guys can forgive and see the good in things. i think i speak for urge too when i say i have grown very cynical about the world, and i hold grudges the people in the middle east would envy.

I do believe that in some cases, to fight monsters, we must become monsters. some garbage just needs to be atken out.

We have laws to keep vigilantes from running amok. that is great. And if the victim can forgive, fine. Just make godamn sure they dont do it again, because if they do, then your forgiveness is just an enabler to an evil person.

And i do believe that some people are just evil. they may have been made that way, but they are, and ther eis no forgiveness for evil. Richard Ramirez doesnt deserve forgiveness, he deserves death. Same with Pedro Lopez.