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all about the yin and yang man...
hes balanced...... like ME! |
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Tax the rich and people who have big trucks.
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@ Hellboy: ok. name oen u cried at? im curious (aside Nemo) |
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And the original dog from Air Bud had heart and look where it got HIM. He's dead. |
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o0o o0o0o where!!
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^_^ I <3 dirty man.
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....... :mad: (.......)^50 |
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anyway. my post done fucked everythign up :( |
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^_^ ur good!!
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my girl almost made me cry
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If a person is overweight, and they decide to eat ice-cream (or lard, for that matter)...That's THEIR business not yours... I don't believe that ANYONE should treat people any differently based on their appearance, whether it's 'for their own good' or not... |
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overweight is the norm .. we all eat more than we need and get less excercise than we need ..except serious atheletes and heath nuts. as we get older its harder to loose the pounds - our mentabalisms slow down, our families prevent good fitness regimines... i'm guilty of all of those things. but obesity ... there is no excuse.. its plain and simple greed ... with the exception of mentally handicapped people who dont have the facilities to know whats good or bad for them. at that point i dont look at them differently for their appearance - rather what mindset they have that allows them to become that way .. |
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I try to reserve judgement.
I could stand to lose a few pounds m'self, but, more for health rather than appearance issues...however, I don't really think the size I'm at it what you're referring to...I'd like to be a little fitter, but I'm happy with my size. Regarding the OBESE...Well, in my experience, having been good friends with one guy that WAS fat to the point of poor health at about the age of 13...well, yeah, he had really poor eating habits, and his parents didn't give a fuck less, they practically endorsed it, very, very lazy people. Funny thing was, THEY weren't obese...but, I still blame them for it more than him, or, at least equally so. Now, in MY opinion...most people that are obese, or are going to be, are well on their way during childhood. You can see it 90%+ of the time. So, Why do people become obese? *Parents being lazy or negligent of their responibilities to their child/ren *Their own self control, or lack thereof. *Poor education about healthy eating and nutrition. *Low self esteem = weight gain = low self esteem which can go in cycles, sometimes insults, or things like this being the catalyst to perpetuate the process, if they're not already thinking "look at me, why bother trying?"... *Availability of more junk than healthy food, at home, school...etc. *Poor school funding resulting in REALLY bad quality, fat saturated foods being served to children. *and...I suppose there's a FEW that have ACTUAL disorders? *Lack of excersize (Now, on their own...these things may not lead to one becoming obese, but I am sure many people have factors in their life that bring about combinations of this stuff) When it comes to OBESITY, I think that aside from a few cases, of actual sickness (I dunno, glandular or metabolism issues), and on the other end of the scale, completely irresponsible self indulgence...it largely comes down to the parents, fitness/nutritional education and the food that is made available. Poor diet, poor habits, not knowing better. Now, if a person has lived in such a household all their life.., and these problems have not been corrected by the time the person leaves home, I would imagine the ongoing diet will be much of the same routine. People are creatures of habit...it's fucked up but true. This is why so many stupid assholes continue smoking on a regular basis, regardless of how much harm it does their health, or how many people around them it "repulses" - same deal, different "drug" of choice...sometimes it's hard, and from the outside observers perspective, certain things are much easier said than done. For these reasons, and the fact that I know how difficult losing even a COUPLE 'o pounds during adulthood can be, I reserve judgement. Sure, I might think they look terrible, they might even smell bad, but yknow...fuck it...they gotta live with it too. I personally feel sorry for the majority of these REALLY big people, aside from how much what they do to themselves (intentionally or not) sickens me. Yeah, I blame them, but I also blame alotta other things, and for good reason. Tax obese people, sure...but only if you're gonna give extra taxations to smokers, car drivers, large corporations that pollute, makers of aerosols and appliances with cfcs..etc, all those and the many other things that take up more of "your" oxygen than an obese person, with a more than likely diminished lung capacity ever would. The thought is pretty ridiculous. |
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In the end, skinnies and fatties will realise, the unhealthy option is not the tastiest option anymore. |
If today they come for the smoker, tomorrow they will come for you. If today they grab your cigarette, tomorrow they will seize your junk food, your carbohydrates, your yummy but "empty" calories. And don't think that your liquor is safe either; neo-Prohibitionism has been long on the march, what with "sin taxes" (revealing term, isn't it?), outlawing of advertising, higher drinking ages, and the neo-Puritan harpies of MADD. Are you ready for the Left Nutritional Kingdom, with everyone forced to confine his food to yogurt and tofu and bean sprouts? Are you ready to be confined in a cage, to make sure that your diet is perfect, and that you get the prescribed Compulsory Exercise? All to be governed by a Hillary Clinton National Health Board?
Fuck all of this tax talk shit, there are too many taxes as it is. Why on earth should a corporation that made it’s money giving people what they OBVIOUSLY wanted, be punished because that product is now deemed by society at large to be unhealthy? I eat junk foods and there isn’t a damn thing wrong with me. Why should I have to suffer with higher prices, or lack of junk foods entirely because Joe Bob doesn’t have enough self control to step away from the buffet bar? Because you *anyone in general* don’t like it? Fuck that. Do I think obese people are nasty? Damn skippy. Do I think they need their jaws wired shut? Double damn skippy. Do I really give to shitsnafuck if they die from it? Hmmmm is it going to cost me anything out of my pocket? …. No? then fuck no. Smoke em if you got em, eat it if you want it, and when the moral police come around knocking on your door to make sure you are practicing normal sex, IE: No one is suspended above the bed, you don’t have more than 5 battery operated devices in the bedroom, and you don’t consider the refrigerator to be a special kinky place for Friday nights, be sure to bash their fucking heads in with that bible they like to toss up in your face, or perhaps a nice shiny piece of exercise equipment, whichever you prefer, just please be creative, since that is about the only thing they aren’t trying to steal from us yet. Remember, when it comes to murder you are really only in trouble for the 1st one, so make a list, hell make a LONG list, wait for just the right moment and when your giveafuck is completely wore out, let ‘er rip and swing away. EDIT: This is NOT an attempt to derail MD's point, her opinion is her's and yes to an extent I do share it, but I do NOT support in any way whatsoever the whole "external intervention" thing. I was really mostly pissed when people started bringing up smokers. But then the "external intervention" shit creeped in and I just cant stand that. Question authority, BEFORE it questions you. |
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I have a great idea, lets kill all the politcians, attorneys, scumbag corporate execs., Right and left wing wackjobs, christian evangelists,toll booth operators, IRS employees,stupid people, slow drivers, anyone driving a hybrid vehicle, my boss, anyone and everyone at Newsweek, Nazis, my parents and sister, that homeless guy with the sign saying "will work for food" and then wont, PETA, terrorists, that idiot that started the reality show craze, George Lucas for Jar Jar Binks, Episode II, and the Ewoks, my coworkers, fast food restaurant workers, the mailman, doctors, and anybody else that I can think of for no good reason. Harm none do as ye will. Worry about yourself for a change and stop trying to change everyone else. |
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ok can we get rid of this thread now?
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We go from a dark ending film like Empire strikes back, to this?? Somehow I missed the transistion. |
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i'll be the first to say that some threads are def. worth getting rid of .. not this one in particular but there are ones that make it look like an idiot shop ...
when guys start threatening each other with death and family massacres because someone didnt agree with their choice of a favorite band ... that shit attracts goofs like flies to shit and repels potential good posters to the forum .. differences of opinion .. some spicy dialogue .. no problem .. but some threads have been total crap and judging from the attitudes of some newcomers .. they think that the 'bad ass' rules the roost and they start polluting the forum and driving away (not scaring away) people who are tired of wading through neck high shit to find one decent thread. i dont want the joy luck club .. but i dont want the 'Home for 14 Year Old Trolls' either .. |
Urge, your avatar has been upsetting many people on this board, and some people have asked me to talk to you about it. You should really mellow your act down a little, it is not right to frighten children as you have so irresponsibly done with your creepy ghoulish avatar. In case you are unclear, the image below is the one of which I speak:
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how about a pregnant person?
or a fat person who is pregnant? or a person who got pregnant and 3 years later still hasnt gotten rid of their 'pregnancy weight'?? |
Seriously, we shouldn't be taxing fat people... but we should be eating them.
I hate fat people, but I am all about the right to do what you want with your body. I will continue to give them disgusted looks, and let them know how annoyed I am when they bump into me though. I just thought taxing fat people was a funny idea. :p Even though the government screwing over smokers is just as unfair, but non-smokers are so happy with themselves. "Fucking smokers, I don't want to breathe that shit" Fuck you, why not protest against the pollution you breathe every second that is doing much worse to your lungs than a whiff of my cigarette. |
educate yourself.
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/...?printing=true Aug. 23, 2004 -- Three cigarettes can cause more air pollution than a diesel car's exhaust, according to an Italian study. The study compared levels of air pollution particles produced by cigarettes with those coming from a late-model "eco-diesel" engine. The research team was led by Giovanni Invernizzi of the Tobacco Control Unit of Italy's National Cancer Institute. Environmental tobacco smoke is a contributor of air pollution particles. These fine particles are a risk factor for chronic lung disease which can be debilitating and sometimes fatal. They can lead to conditions such as asthma, bronchitis, and emphysema, and are also a risk for lung cancer, write the researchers. The test was conducted in the small, northern Italian mountain town of Chiavenna, which has unusually low outdoor levels of air pollution. The experiment was conducted in a closed, private garage with six small vents, which were kept open during the experiment in accordance with Italian law. The car they tested was a 2002 turbo diesel Ford Mondeo that met European gas exhaust standards. Low-sulfur fuel was also used. The cigarettes were "MS" filter cigarettes produced by Italian State Monopoly. Each contained 1 milligram of nicotine and 11.2 milligrams of tar. The researchers started the Mondeo and then let its engine idle for 30 minutes. After airing out the garage for four hours, the scientists lit three cigarettes -- one after another -- and let them smolder for a total of 30 minutes. They measured air pollution levels every two minutes during the tests. They also measured pollution particle matter for an additional 90 minutes after the engine was turned off and the cigarettes had burned out. The car's exhaust and cigarettes were placed in the same position. Researchers focused on fine particulate matter air pollution -- microscopic particles in the air that measure less than 2.5 micrometers in diameter, which is about the size of cigarette smoke particles. The cigarettes produced 10 times as much particulate matter as the auto, comparing the first hour after starting the engine with the first hour after lighting the cigarettes. "Since we utilized a room with a volume similar to that encountered in many offices and homes, the present data give cause for concern," write the researchers. "Environmental tobacco smoke is a major source of particulate matter pollution." Newer vehicles have improved emission rates. "It has been estimated that older gasoline vehicles and light-duty diesel emission rates are on average 100 times higher than those of newer vehicles," write the researchers. Low-sulfur fuel also helps reduce particulate matter. While smoking is restricted for health reasons in many countries, it's not always associated with air pollution. "Even health personnel are often unaware of such risks," write the researchers, who suggest using their findings in antismoking campaigns. The research is published in the journal Tobacco Control. --------------------- make whatever point you choose, but dont back it with nonsensical BS same study - different article http://www14.medica.de/cgi-bin/md_me..._s_t&oid=13448 Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, which is the most dangerous element of air pollution for health. Levels indoors can far exceed those outdoors, because new engine models and lead free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car exhausts, say the authors. The controlled experiment was carried out in a private garage in a small mountain town in northern Italy. The town enjoys very low levels of particulate matter air pollution A turbo diesel 2 litre engine was started and left idling for 30 minutes in the garage, with the doors closed, after which the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fuelled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were then lit up sequentially, and left smouldering for a further 30 minutes. The nicotine and tar content of each cigarette was 1 mg and 11.2 mg, respectively. A portable analyser took readings every two minutes during the experiments. Combined particulate levels in the first hour after the engine had been started measured 88 ug/m3. Those recorded in the first hour after the cigarettes had been lit measured 830 ug/m3: 10 times greater. The diesel engine exhaust doubled the particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak; the environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15 times those measured outdoors. MEDICA.de; Source: British Medical Journal |
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research verifies/supports it. another example: schools FORCE immunization on children.. is that a bad thing? some people just DONT know any BETTER... |
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