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urgeok 03-09-2005 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
The executin itself may be painless, (injection) but the time leading up to the actual execution is anything but painless.
their pain will be over long before the pain experience by the parents of a murdered child.

i'd love to be there while they are experiencing their pain ...
and slowly pass pictures of the victim into the cage .. one at a time.


i have no feelings for a piece of human filth that could take another life ... unless it was in self defence.

i'd love to know how low that percentage is ..

Vodstok 03-09-2005 06:04 AM

Sitting around terrified, knowing that you are going to die soon and there is nothing you can do about it has be pretty godamn terrible. Some are no doubt remorseless and may laugh all the way out, but i am willing to bet they are a significant minority.

urgeok 03-09-2005 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
lol I say throw them off a cliff, that doesn't cost anything. :p
c'mon, you know how i feel about littering :)

X¤MurderDoll¤X 03-09-2005 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
The executin itself may be painless, (injection) but the time leading up to the actual execution is anything but painless.
Good point.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 03-09-2005 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
c'mon, you know how i feel about littering :)
Fine, burn them. 5$ of gasoline and a match. :D

urgeok 03-09-2005 06:09 AM

just dump them in the incinerator - or trash compactor with the rest of the prison garbage.

Vodstok 03-09-2005 06:11 AM

bah, with gas prices these days, that would be more expensive than just giving them the injection.

urgeok 03-09-2005 06:39 AM

what about those 'bolt guns' they use to kill cattle ?

we dont even waste a god damn bullet !!


i'm a genius !

Vodstok 03-09-2005 06:46 AM

A guilletine over a big ole hole in the ground. Sure, set up would cost a couple of grand, but after a couple of executions, it pays for itself :)


Kinda like a coffee maker. its the gift that keeps on killing :)

*Chop**Sweep**Reset* "NEXT!"

ShankS 03-09-2005 06:47 AM

I say let them all live in a hole and eat cactus and spikes for the rest of their days.

Vodstok 03-09-2005 06:50 AM

Cactus and spikes cost money, man! where is your thinking cap?

Of with their 'eads! dump the bodies in a deep pit! It's the only sensible solution.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 03-09-2005 06:52 AM

Or we could just send them all to australia.

ShankS 03-09-2005 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Cactus and spikes cost money, man! where is your thinking cap?

Of with their 'eads! dump the bodies in a deep pit! It's the only sensible solution.

make them grow them in the hole

Vodstok 03-09-2005 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Or we could just send them all to australia.
The english already tried that. They ended up becoming wealthy off of tourists and then Sydney became the second hollywood.

Plus, i happen to like Cheeba and i dont want to stick him with my garbage.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 03-09-2005 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
The english already tried that. They ended up becoming wealthy off of tourists and then Sydney became the second hollywood.

Plus, i happen to like Cheeba and i dont want to stick him with my garbage.

lol

Vodstok 03-09-2005 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by ShankS
make them grow them in the hole
Oooh... even better. Going with ShankS hole theory, i think they should have to grow Stinging Nettles for food and eat them raw. They can have protein from whatever other inmates there are, or any slugs and spiders that happen to infest their crops.


Anything with a backbone, aside from other inmates, would be forbidden as food. Any inmates caught eating rats or mice would then have to clean out "Human Chitterlings" (read; small intestines) with the power of suction.

(if it wasnt obvious what i am suggesting, they would have to suck shit out of a dead person's guts)

LilMissScareAll 03-09-2005 01:11 PM

Torture would be good, for people who really deserve it... actually I kinda think they should do back to these people, whatever they've done to other innocent people...like a pay-back for what they've done to others. Or they should have the victims' families come in and do whatever they want with them.

urgeok 03-09-2005 01:25 PM

i saw a comedian say something that was funny .. but very true ..

he was talking about killers getting time off for good behavior etc ..


he said .. here's what we'll do - we'll bury the key to your cell with (__________) (the girl he killed)

when she comes back from the grave to unlock your cell, you're free to go.


i like the idea of that - i just dont like the expense of keeping the fuckers alive.

Vodstok 03-10-2005 04:00 AM

Steve Odekirk said that in "High Strung".


I like what bobby slayton said about people pleading insanity

"People think they will egt off if they plead insanity. 'Oh, he didnt know he was killing people while he was doing it.'

Okay, good. He didnt know he was killing them, he wont know we're killing him. Tell him the electric chair is a ride. Fuck it, put his family on it too, they can all go for a ride."

movieman64 03-10-2005 04:29 AM

Indiana executed a guy last night for the 1982 murders of a mother and daughter. He admitted to the murders, but it took 23 years before he was executed.

Vodstok 03-10-2005 04:39 AM

Well, i guess that goes to show you that there is plenty of time for appeals.

urgeok 03-10-2005 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Steve Odekirk said that in "High Strung".


I like what bobby slayton said about people pleading insanity

"People think they will egt off if they plead insanity. 'Oh, he didnt know he was killing people while he was doing it.'

Okay, good. He didnt know he was killing them, he wont know we're killing him. Tell him the electric chair is a ride. Fuck it, put his family on it too, they can all go for a ride."

i remember that one too .. mint !

AUSTIN316426808 03-11-2005 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by The STE
If there's a certain amount of concrete evidence that they did it, do to them what they did. Guy rapes 47 people, have 47 different people rape him, etc. But mix it up a bit. Have every 10th person be a clown
exactly what I think, whatever they did have it done to them. You shoot somebody and they bleed to death in God knows what kind of pain you don't get a needle put into your arm and put to sleep, you get shoot and left to bleed to death simple as that.

ItsAlive75 03-11-2005 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
exactly what I think, whatever they did have it done to them. You shoot somebody and they bleed to death in God knows what kind of pain you don't get a needle put into your arm and put to sleep, you get shoot and left to bleed to death simple as that.
The whole "cruel and unusual" punishment thing doesn't make sense to me...

I mean, its usually a cruel and unusual crime when it's murder.

Gren the cake 03-11-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by ItsAlive75
The whole "cruel and unusual" punishment thing doesn't make sense to me...

I mean, its usually a cruel and unusual crime when it's murder.

has everything to do with stooping to their level

we are THE world power and have an example to accept. so im wondering how u felt about the iraq, afghanistan, older china regime?

ItsAlive75 03-11-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Gren the cake
has everything to do with stooping to their level

we are THE world power and have an example to accept. so im wondering how u felt about the iraq, afghanistan, older china regime?

Well that's just a case of taking a responsibility of being a super power and running it into the ground

movieman64 03-13-2005 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by ItsAlive75
The whole "cruel and unusual" punishment thing doesn't make sense to me...

I mean, its usually a cruel and unusual crime when it's murder.

If they took out one or the other. Just made it cruel, or just made it unusual would that work?

ItsAlive75 03-13-2005 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
If they took out one or the other. Just made it cruel, or just made it unusual would that work?
If they took out the "cruel" and just left it with unusual, I could probably be alright with that...

AUSTIN316426808 03-13-2005 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by ItsAlive75
If they took out the "cruel" and just left it with unusual, I could probably be alright with that...

''cruel and unusual'' punishment

that phrase makes no sense to me when you're talking about putting a criminal to death, rape,murder,pedophilia ect. these crimes amoung others are cruel and to damn usual. If you do something to someone it should be done to you.

someone gets raped and murdered and all the son of a bitch gets is a needle in his arm bullshit.

movieman64 03-14-2005 04:21 AM

I believe that if the States retributive action was more severe and widespread for lesser crimes it might, (I emphasize "might") have more of an effect. Someone mentioned atrocities committed in Iraq. From what has been learned, most of these acts/torture were done as a means to ascertain information/intelligence, not necessarily on persons who had committed a crime. I do believe that some other countries actions or ways of dealing with crime are effective. Caning, cutting off the hand of a thief, castration of a sex crime offender, (Done voluntarily in some States already) etc. Obvisouly none of these methods is perfect, but the system we have in place now is not, and does not work!

Vodstok 03-14-2005 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
I believe that if the States retributive action was more severe and widespread for lesser crimes it might, (I emphasize "might") have more of an effect. Someone mentioned atrocities committed in Iraq. From what has been learned, most of these acts/torture were done as a means to ascertain information/intelligence, not necessarily on persons who had committed a crime. I do believe that some other countries actions or ways of dealing with crime are effective. Caning, cutting off the hand of a thief, castration of a sex crime offender, (Done voluntarily in some States already) etc. Obvisouly none of these methods is perfect, but the system we have in place now is not, and does not work!
What do you work for the justice system in some way, like at a prison or something? what do you know? :D


I think kids in this country would have a lot more respect for things if they got their asses beat publically like in singapore. It would have been nice if our response as a nation to that stupid little shit in the 90s was "Beat his ass. Give him 2 extra whacks for us. And let that be a lesson to you here in America. Shape up or we'll start beating you too."

movieman64 03-14-2005 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
What do you work for the justice system in some way, like at a prison or something? what do you know? :D


I think kids in this country would have a lot more respect for things if they got their asses beat publically like in singapore. It would have been nice if our response as a nation to that stupid little shit in the 90s was "Beat his ass. Give him 2 extra whacks for us. And let that be a lesson to you here in America. Shape up or we'll start beating you too."

I am a Lieutenant with the Indiana Department of Correction, 18+ years. I was even the CAB chairman for about 3 years, back in 99-02

Vodstok 03-14-2005 06:46 AM

Sarcasm my freind :)

I personally believe you are the most qualified person on the forum to render judgement on the subject.

movieman64 03-14-2005 06:57 AM

I didn't take it like that, just thought you didn't know.

Vodstok 03-14-2005 06:58 AM

Cool.

bwind22 03-14-2005 03:26 PM

I didnt read the thread but my views on torture are this...

If someone is found guilty of rape, cut off their balls. They won't do it again. It's not torture, it's prevention.

If some commits multiple or mass murder, fuck yeah. Make them suffer. But I think that the families of the victims (aka those most hurt by this individuals disregard for human life.) should have a hand in it. Whether it be them deciding on what type of suffereing to inflict or actually inflicting the suffering upon the murderer himself. It is fair and just.

I know if some fuck killed someone I cared about, I would be more than willing to inflict approriate punishment upon them and if the courts backed me up, then thats all the better.

Elvis_Christ 03-14-2005 06:41 PM

That's just fucking stupid. What a moron.

"Let's go burn some crosses pa"

bwind22 03-14-2005 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
That's just fucking stupid. What a moron.

"Let's go burn some crosses pa"

Your brother is looking more and more like you all the time.






I don't know you in the slightest and I can tell that you are a self-righteous and arrogant prick by that one post. Does it make you feel better to put down someone's (clearly labeled) opinion, fucknut?

I'd like to see your reaction if someone raped, then gutted your mom or sister and left them laying in a creek. I'm pretty damn sure you'd be wanting to do a lot more than 'burn some crosses', but I guess we'll never know unless it happens...

Either way, get the fuck off your high horse because making any attempt (however weak it may be) to insult someone for having an opinion just makes you the asshole.

Vodstok 03-15-2005 04:14 AM

He is self righteous. Ignore him, that is what i have been doing.

Elvis_Christ 03-15-2005 06:03 PM

Good ignore me I could give a fucking shit. I'm self righteous? Whatever.

So I'm not allowed a opinon either........? I think the death penalty is barbaric and wrong. Maybe if you had've read the rest of the thread you'd see I was just stating this point again.

But yeh I could care less what you have to say about me.


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