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MisterSadistro 12-09-2004 09:49 AM

It's been a bad year for nightclubs. This, the fire in Rhode Island at the Great White concert and the C2 stampede in Chicago. A lot of senseless deaths. There's going to be a lot of changes after these.
CK

Vodstok 12-09-2004 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by ShankS
never realy knew much about the guy untill now... not into metal....but R.I.P all the same.

but it's clear as day, that the security in some of these venues is shite. Dont they search or have detectors to stop loonies taking guns into places like this??? The nutter obviously had an intention to maim or kill the guy and take down others aswell. I would have thought, when letting the guy in he'd have looked a bit suspicious, trying to conceal a gun.....unless this loonie was good at acting 'normal' infront of the public, just waiting to carry out his business.

The really funny thing is that epople will be saying "why wasnt he checked before hand? if they had searched him and found the gun, those people wouldnt have died."

Many of these same people would say "Why to i have to wait so fuckign long to get on an airplane. Im not a terrorist. what a pain in the ass, they dont have the right to search me...."

newb 12-09-2004 10:04 AM

Not to split hairs , but The Station fire was in February of 2003. I live in R.I. and had gone to that nightclub many,many times. There has already been lots of changes concerning fire codes and such. Some clubs even had to close down because of the cost to keep their buildings up to the new codes.

ShankS 12-09-2004 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
The really funny thing is that epople will be saying "why wasnt he checked before hand? if they had searched him and found the gun, those people wouldnt have died."

Many of these same people would say "Why to i have to wait so fuckign long to get on an airplane. Im not a terrorist. what a pain in the ass, they dont have the right to search me...."

your right.... these days the tragic events happen, then they decide to carry out the preventitive measures afterwards.

MisterSadistro 12-09-2004 10:11 AM

Now that I think about it, the C2 club stampede must've been 2003 as well (it happened a week before R.I.).
CK

Death By Jell-O 12-09-2004 11:54 AM

The motto in America should be, Hindsite's always 20/20......

MichaelMyers 12-09-2004 12:32 PM

From what I read, it seems the person that shot him may have been upset over Pantera breaking up and was blaming Darrell for it. The band that was performing had two of Pantera's members but was called Damageplan. Unbelievable. He was one of the best metal guitarists ever.

PurplePoison89 12-09-2004 12:45 PM

R.I.P dimebag never heard much about him til he died but R.I.P anyway

Sedated_replica 12-09-2004 04:44 PM

Re: Dimebag Darrell is Dead
 
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Originally posted by ZombieAss

according to a witness who identified himself as Sean. Some members of the audience reportedly thought the man running onto the stage with a gun was part of the band's act

Why when bad things happen people always think its apart of a act.

Hate_Breeder 12-09-2004 04:50 PM

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Fucked Up.....beyond belief

Sedated_replica 12-09-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Right, lets blame the fucking gun.
I mean, Guns should be alittle to blame for this. No, not completely. But When Crazy douche bags are able to get ahold of a gun. Shit like this happens.

Fuck the NRA and fuck the gun laws.

DraculaInDallas 12-09-2004 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by FilthyCannibal
worst news of the year so far...
wtf :confused: try watching a news channel or reading a newspaper once in awhile........

MisterSadistro 12-09-2004 11:47 PM

I came off sounding more crass than I should've on this post before knowing all the facts. I am not a great fan of Pantera or whatever his new band's name is, but he sure as hell never asked to be gunned down on stage in any life, shape or form.
I didn't mean any disrespect to him or his surviving members in my original post. I thought he got into it with some douchebag about whatever and might've had it coming to him. After hearing everyone and their mom basically say he was the coolest guy you would ever meet as a "rock star", I now regret saying anything about the guy last night in my Jagermeister induced post.
Aftedr getting into a mix with some dude myself tonight, I can see how easily a misunderstanding can be the end of your world (mind you I'm the eaSIEST m.f. you will likely meet in your life).
Sorry to all the Dime friends and famly for sounding like a dick.
CK

FilthyCannibal 12-10-2004 07:26 AM

I do read newspapers, and watch the news. I meant to me it's the worst news of the year so far. He was one of the last great guitar players along with Zakk Wylde. Nobody can touch those two. Most metal bands anymore don't play solos. To me it is a huge tragedy and to me it's the worst news of the year so far....

DraculaInDallas 12-10-2004 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by FilthyCannibal
I do read newspapers, and watch the news. I meant to me it's the worst news of the year so far. He was one of the last great guitar players along with Zakk Wylde. Nobody can touch those two. Most metal bands anymore don't play solos. To me it is a huge tragedy and to me it's the worst news of the year so far....
I can respect that.... :)

FilthyCannibal 12-10-2004 12:36 PM

ok cool beans

george 12-10-2004 01:20 PM

whit life comes death. its a natural part of life.

Sedated_replica 12-10-2004 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by FilthyCannibal
Most metal bands anymore don't play solos.
I don't listen to metal anymore. But Metal and solo's go together like Peanut butter and Jelly. I thought there was to many solo's in metal. They sounded all alike. But thats me.

SOLO ON YOUR FACE!

voltron 12-10-2004 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by george
whit life comes death. its a natural part of life.


this was in no way natural.

I,ZOMBIE 12-10-2004 05:19 PM

that's crazy
 
was the shooter a ex/marine? i thought i heardd that on the news! why couldn't it have been the goo goo dolls or some other crappy band... poor dimebag.

bloodrayne 12-10-2004 08:32 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../in_memory.jpg

Death By Jell-O 12-10-2004 09:15 PM

Damn! That's Rad! Where'd You Get That?

DraculaInDallas 12-10-2004 10:29 PM

This guy has been on the news constantly here in the Dallas area....I guess he was from Arlington, Tx.......although I've never heard of the guy it sounds like he was a big deal......at least to the HDC crowd. They showed his home in Arlington, quite scaled down for a rock star, looked like he lived in a regular neighborhood........surprised me, usually celebrities go over board with the material crap.....

bloodrayne 12-11-2004 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by Death By Jell-O
Damn! That's Rad! Where'd You Get That?
I stole it ;)

wufong 12-11-2004 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by DraculaInDallas
This guy has been on the news constantly here in the Dallas area....I guess he was from Arlington, Tx.......although I've never heard of the guy it sounds like he was a big deal......at least to the HDC crowd. They showed his home in Arlington, quite scaled down for a rock star, looked like he lived in a regular neighborhood........surprised me, usually celebrities go over board with the material crap.....
i dont think he was all that popular, thats why he couldnt afford anything outlandish..but i suppose sales of his albums will go through the roof now though. i say good riddance to the hippie. fucking long haired freaks someone ougth to tel lthe mthe 80's are over man

FairyKorpes 12-11-2004 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by wufong
i dont think he was all that popular, thats why he couldnt afford anything outlandish..but i suppose sales of his albums will go through the roof now though. i say good riddance to the hippie. fucking long haired freaks someone ougth to tel lthe mthe 80's are over man
The 80's will never be over!!!!;)

voltron 12-11-2004 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by wufong
i dont think he was all that popular

Pantera sold over 14 million records and hes been on the cover of Guitar magazines about a million times.

newb 12-11-2004 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../in_memory.jpg
Nice ribbon Blood but it looks like he has an arrow sticking out of his back. I realize its his guitar but thats the first immpression I got.

MisterSadistro 12-11-2004 06:59 AM

argh ! Most annoying now are gun nuts bantering on the AOL news boards today :
woman SAVED by a gun
This delusional woman keeps posting her story over and over about how her husband collects guns as an investment (huh ?) and she had one in her backpack (good place to keep an investment). Two men asked her if she wanted to have sex with them and she pulled it on them.
Long story made short, as her posts continue to the cheers of other gun nuts, her story keeps changing. Now instead of the guys asking her if she'd like to have sex with them (she's 47 mind you LOL), they had somehow become rapists and were leaving her for dead in the middle of nowhere. Apparently no one else seems to notice the not so gradual change in her story. Scary to think someone who can't even keep her "story" straight is walking around armed at this moment.
Gotta love that after every time there's some kind of gun tragedy in America, the NRA seem to be the first ones on the spot crowing about how great guns are and the event should be seen as another "isolated" incident.
Don't know which is worse: them or the right-wing Christians saying he deserved it for making "devil music" on there. They seem to be going hand in hand a lot.
CK

Kemal 12-11-2004 07:53 AM

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Gotta love that after every time there's some kind of gun tragedy in America, the NRA seem to be the first ones on the spot crowing about how great guns are and the event should be seen as another "isolated" incident.
I don't remember the NRA releasing a statement on this shooting. And why should it? It should no more answer for the actions of one man who used a gun to commit a crime than members and devotees of similar music groups should have to answer for the behavior of one deranged fan. Neither group is responsible in any way for this man's crimes. And not all NRA members/politically-active gun owners are right-wing or Christian; that's a bullshit stereotype.

Sedated_replica 12-11-2004 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kemal
I don't remember the NRA releasing a statement on this shooting. And why should it? It should no more answer for the actions of one man who used a gun to commit a crime than members and devotees of similar music groups should have to answer for the behavior of one deranged fan. Neither group is responsible in any way for this man's crimes. And not all NRA members/politically-active gun owners are right-wing or Christian; that's a bullshit stereotype.
It might be a stereotype. But its mostly true. Most members of the NRA are republican and when I say most I mean about all 98%.

If it was up to them it will still be like the wild west, where everybody gets a gun.

I guess you think that all the gun laws are fair. Look at Canada, Their crime rate is not even half of ours. Why is killing so important? (and yes thats all a Gun does)

Kemal 12-11-2004 05:43 PM

When you say "them" say "you" because I'm a member. I don't know where you get 98% from but around here at least there's a healthy number of minorities in attendance, mainly Asians(women too for that matter). Maybe a majority are Republican but there are many libertarians among NRA ranks and in rural areas it's not uncommon to see Democrat members(I'm a registered Democrat). And by the way the Wild West actually had fairly strict gun control within town limits, and less violent crime than is commonly portrayed in popular media.

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Why is killing so important? (and yes thats all a Gun does)
No, all a gun does is push a piece of metal out of the barrel. You can put it through a paper bullseye, an animal or a human being. Killing is an act performed by another man, and it's that man who is morally and legally responsible for what that gun does. A gun is morally neutral. Its purpose is determined by the man who wields it. And if you want to know why I think they're so important, just do a little reading on the first people who were denied the right to own guns in the USA. I'll bet you can guess who it was. They said it was about crime prevention back then, too.

bloodrayne 12-11-2004 05:58 PM

Thank You, Kemal;)

MisterSadistro 12-11-2004 08:12 PM

The NRA guys are coming out in droves on the AOL chatboard as usual and only admit to be card carrying members after statements about how it's a "good thing" that someone killed off the "Satanic" music maker, etc. The NRA itself doesn't worry me as much as some of the politics and beliefs that so many members of it hold dear. The same people who worry about someone else having an abortion because it's not part of "God's plan" are the same people who wouldn't bat an eye over shooting someone to death. I suppose a doctor shouldn't play God with someone's life (even if it is a fetus), but some gun-toting good ole boy is allowed to. I wonder when the side note in the Ten Comandments about 'Thou Shall Not Kill' * (*unless it's by gun and you don't agree with them) was written into The Bible since my edition doesn't have that listed in it.
CK

Sedated_replica 12-12-2004 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Kemal
When you say "them" say "you" because I'm a member. I don't know where you get 98% from but around here at least there's a healthy number of minorities in attendance, mainly Asians(women too for that matter). Maybe a majority are Republican but there are many libertarians among NRA ranks and in rural areas it's not uncommon to see Democrat members(I'm a registered Democrat). And by the way the Wild West actually had fairly strict gun control within town limits, and less violent crime than is commonly portrayed in popular media.


No, all a gun does is push a piece of metal out of the barrel. You can put it through a paper bullseye, an animal or a human being. Killing is an act performed by another man, and it's that man who is morally and legally responsible for what that gun does. A gun is morally neutral. Its purpose is determined by the man who wields it. And if you want to know why I think they're so important, just do a little reading on the first people who were denied the right to own guns in the USA. I'll bet you can guess who it was. They said it was about crime prevention back then, too.

you know what your talking about, but how many innocent little boys and girls have been shot in drive by's? YES it is the person who pulls the trigger and the person DOES commit the crime. But if we had tighter restrictions on Guns it would happen a lot less. By saying "A gun is morally neutral" well a lot of the people who get access to them aren't. And they decide the Bullets fate.

I agree with Chris Rock "Bullets should cost 5,000 dollars (I think thats the number). And when someone gets shot they really deserved it. Less innocent people would die and thats all I really care about.

all a Gun is, is a device just for killing. You can shoot whatever you want with it. Its not a device for fun.
If killing animals or Tin cans is fun. You need a new hobby. thats just how I feel about Gun laws.

urgeok 12-12-2004 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Sedated_replica
you know what your talking about, but how many innocent little boys and girls have been shot in drive by's? YES it is the person who pulls the trigger and the person DOES commit the crime. But if we had tighter restrictions on Guns it would happen a lot less. By saying "A gun is morally neutral" well a lot of the people who get access to them aren't. And they decide the Bullets fate.

I agree with Chris Rock "Bullets should cost 5,000 dollars (I think thats the number). And when someone gets shot they really deserved it. Less innocent people would die and thats all I really care about.

all a Gun is, is a device just for killing. You can shoot whatever you want with it. Its not a device for fun.
If killing animals or Tin cans is fun. You need a new hobby. thats just how I feel about Gun laws.

thats how i feel about it too.
you dont see innocent bystanders getting strangled or knifed to death.

hey, a nuclear bomb isnt responsible for killing either ..
does that mean everyone should be able to get a license for one ?


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