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EXTR3MIST 10-29-2004 03:50 AM

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I respectfully disagree with your analogy that "slasher films" are the "junk food" of the horror genre. I contend that today's unimaginative re-makes, laden with CGI graphics, and copycat effects are cheapening the "Horror" in horror films. The studios are producing flashy movie previews, with no real substance, ("movie") to back it up. All of this of course is intended to get you back into the theatre or rental store for that almighty dollar.
Yes - and I would consider the likes of Saving Private Ryan, Braveheart and Titanic "junk food" in comparison to, say, Friday the 13th or The Burning.

Supposedly factual accounts of war and disaster which are in fact blatant rewrites of history leaving only a shred of truth are potentially dangerous films consumed by the general public for a quick fix of rollercoaster emotions.

Slasher films have no such agendas and do not need to take creative liberties in desperate attempts to keep the average moviegoer happy... although of course that is changing in these bland, "knowing", post-modern times of horror cinema.

urgeok 10-29-2004 05:19 AM

are you kidding me ?

dont need to take creative liberties ?
A guy who doesnt die ? thats a pretty big creative liberty !

I hear what you're saying re. 'non fictional films'
I always take them with a grain of salt ..
There has not been a single historical/biographical film that hasnt been padded with 70% bullshit to make it more interesting for the average movie goer.

But before i even get into production values or acting talent ... I wasnt comparing films outside the genre ...

I'm comparing horror to horror ..

Ther are a lot of scare films (esp. from the late 70's early 80's) that were given a lot more care and talent than the slasher fims - that were basically exploitation films .. T & A, really poor acting (mostly soap opera stars) and absolutely no story or plot .. just kill kill kill. (in a different discussion these would be my reasons why these films are good ! :)

movieman64 10-29-2004 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
(in a different discussion these would be my reasons why these films are good ! :)

I concur, this is a subject for a different thread.

JoethePlumber 10-29-2004 12:51 PM

I shall say
 
TCM gets my vote. Sadistic, unrelenting and butchery. Halloween would come in second. The first one is well done and menacing. The others are Halloween +lack of direction and dilution.

zwoti 10-29-2004 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Ritualistic
The Burning and Madman is my favorite slasher flicks.. I prefer older shit .... Sleepaway camp is another movie I fucking love a lot
didn't enjoy madman much......the burning however...great fun.

kpropain 10-30-2004 11:32 AM

The New York Ripper

Deep Red

Maniac

urgeok 10-30-2004 03:39 PM

Deep Red ...
I never thought of that as a 'slasher film'

at least not in the 'friday the halloween' sense ...

TheGrudgeSucks 11-01-2004 04:51 AM

It's cliche because it's true. Halloween all the way.

EXTR3MIST 11-02-2004 03:59 AM

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are you kidding me ? dont need to take creative liberties ? A guy who doesnt die ? thats a pretty big creative liberty !

On the subject of "junk food" films; given the entire premise of a typical slasher film is fantasy, you cannot claim creative liberties in the same sense as you can with the creators of Saving Private Ryan, Braveheart and Titanic.

Unlike these movies, the typical slasher film does not pretend to be an account of actual events (except for the odd one that does, of course) and the slasher viewer is not fed anything like the agendas, propaganda and lies so blatantly contained in the supposedly more "respectable" and "serious" films I mentioned.

It's interesting that those great movies (my emphasis on general opinion) turn out to be the junk, and the more honest rubbish slasher movies turn out to be the nice big steak.

urgeok 11-02-2004 06:07 AM

dont get me started on Titanic !
I avoid these films like the plague ... but again .. let me stress - i was really comparing films WITHIN the genre ..

There are a lot of really good horror films that are somewhat more origional and involved ...

Slasher films are something people make with a low budget with unknown actors to make a buck on the rental shelves ..

and again, i like them .. but they cant really compare to smarter horror films ...

Nemesis412 11-02-2004 01:37 PM

OMFG whoever said halloween is a cliche needs to be hit

Halloween is THE BEST i mean i love jason and freddy but HALLOWEEN its the all time best ever

Myers is the BEST

ANd to freddy man i was just like u were with halloween i didnt like freddy but now i love him and i wanna get the box set and for everyone that said halloween is the best slasher is very cool and has good taste thank you

EXTR3MIST 11-03-2004 03:42 AM

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but again .. let me stress - i was really comparing films WITHIN the genre ..
I know that, I just expanded the point is all.

Forgive my lack of emoticons, but the little yellow noobs get on my nerves.

tic 11-03-2004 03:57 AM

i know this isn't really a slasher but "Audition" must be one of the yukiest.:eek:

EXTR3MIST 11-04-2004 03:14 AM

The best bit in Audition is where the girl nonchantly tosses one of the guy's feet and it bounces off the window.

urgeok 11-04-2004 05:05 AM

Have any of you folks seen Black Christmas ?
its an old Canadian slasher film that actually predated Halloween.
I cant remember if Carpenter ever cited it as an influence or not..

It doesnt stand the test of time very well. It scared the hell out of me when i was a kid but i just watched it for the 1st time in years a few weeks ago and it didnt deliver the groceries quite the way i remembered.
Still and interesting film for historic reasons.
It also had a couple of other names .. Stranger in the House .. or something like that, and another..

Nemesis412 11-05-2004 11:35 PM

I agree with the person that disagreed about the person who said that slasher are "junk food" of horror.

I must say while I love Frankenstein and Dracula, Slashers are pretty much the main attraction to Horror. Most likely 9/10 times when someone thinks Horror they are going to think of a slasher.
Plus slasher movies are a damn good time FUN FUN..

mothermold 11-06-2004 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by MichaelMyers
If I must give a unique answer, "The Prowler" has an adequate plot with great Savini FX.

...yes,that and "the burning"and "maniac" as well.

urgeok 11-06-2004 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Nemesis412
I agree with the person that disagreed about the person who said that slasher are "junk food" of horror.

I must say while I love Frankenstein and Dracula, Slashers are pretty much the main attraction to Horror. Most likely 9/10 times when someone thinks Horror they are going to think of a slasher.
Plus slasher movies are a damn good time FUN FUN..

well i disagree with the person who agreed with the person who disagreed with the person who said it...

i think ...

Nemesis412 11-06-2004 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
well i disagree with the person who agreed with the person who disagreed with the person who said it...

i think ...

OH YEAH WELL......i dont even know what the fuck were talkin about anymore

urgeok 11-07-2004 06:10 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis412
I agree with the person that disagreed about the person who said that slasher are "junk food" of horror.

I must say while I love Frankenstein and Dracula, Slashers are pretty much the main attraction to Horror. Most likely 9/10 times when someone thinks Horror they are going to think of a slasher.
Plus slasher movies are a damn good time FUN FUN..


I just had a thought ..
99/100 when someone thinks of a restaurant .... they think of McDonalds :)

Nemesis412 11-07-2004 08:43 AM

i do i love mcdonalds


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