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newb 06-29-2011 10:06 AM

unfortunately I think it's just the sign of the times we live in. Moral boundries are being pushed in everything........books, music, television

The Villain 06-29-2011 10:07 AM

I just dont like comedy horror. Everything i said is pure opinion, not based on facts or anything.

neverending 06-29-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KaydenTheron92 (Post 896481)
2bh I was kinda thinking the same and also the opposite of The Villian ... I thought that with the introduction of comedy horror, more traditional horror became more ... ... Horrific?

My example is Frankenstein, the original 1931 (i think) version wasnt that scary at all, but then you get Young Frankenstein and then next thing you know you have Mary Shelleys Frankenstein with Kenneth Brannaugh and Robert DeNiro, thats a very dark and disturbing film if you ask me ...

It just seems to me that horror films are pushing moral boundaries more nowadays and I think that comedy horrors are to blame - they're taking the scaryness outta horror and turning it into a joke - the only way to combat this is to a) add comedy elements to bring in another audience or b) make the horror films so extreme that they push society laws to the brink

VKT


Well, this is so wrong on so many levels... where to begin? The 1931 Frankenstein (not the original, but we'll forgive you) is terrifying, and the sequel, Bride of Frankenstein is just as transgressive as anything being produced today.

If what you equate "good horror movies" with is blood and gore and cheap jump moments, then you are overlooking the real heart and soul of horror movies. What motivated filmmakers to push the boundaries in content and subject matter was not any reaction to comedic films, but simple economics. Each new generation of horror fans needed something new and different, more extreme, to get them to come to the theatre. Once you're desensitized to a certain level of something, it takes more to get your heart pumping. It's as simple as that, nothing more, nothing less.

Your premise is flawed and invalid, IMO.

Ferox13 06-29-2011 10:30 PM

NE beat me too it for the most part.

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Originally Posted by KaydenTheron92 (Post 896481)
My example is Frankenstein, the original 1931 (i think) version wasnt that scary at all, but then you get Young Frankenstein and then next thing you know you have Mary Shelleys Frankenstein with Kenneth Brannaugh and Robert DeNiro, thats a very dark and disturbing film if you ask me ...

Your time lines for the examples are a bit weird. They are like:

Frankenstein was 1931 but then 43 years later we get Young Frankenstein then ' then next thing you know you' 20 years later you have Mary Shelleys Frankenstein..

Fearonsarms 07-02-2011 09:18 PM

Sorry to any fans of the film but I consider Young Frankenstein to be one of the worst films ever made. I actually prefer Student Bodies, Scream and Carry On Screaming because instead of laughing AT horror fans they laughed WITH them.

neverending 07-02-2011 10:03 PM

Young Frankenstein is possibly the most loving tribute to classic horror films ever created. To say it laughs at horror fans is offensive.

TheWickerFan 07-03-2011 02:18 AM

Wow. I don't know how you can think Young Frankenstein is an insult to horror. It was made with so much affection for Frankenstein and Bride Of Frankenstein.

I'm siding with Neverending and Newb on this one. I really don't think horror comedies or spoofs affect the horror genre at all. It's a sub genre. In all these years, it hasn't taken the straightforward horror away from us.

The thing that really ticks me off is when a horror film is remade with contempt for the original. The Wicker Man for example.

newb 07-03-2011 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearonsarms (Post 896766)
Sorry to any fans of the film but I consider Young Frankenstein to be one of the worst films ever made.

:confused::eek:WTF


Couldn't disagree more.

You have either never seen the original Frankenstein and Bride of or you just completely missed the point of Young Frankenstein.

The Villain 07-03-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWickerFan (Post 896793)
Wow. I don't know how you can think Young Frankenstein is an insult to horror. It was made with so much affection for Frankenstein and Bride Of Frankenstein.

I'm siding with Neverending and Newb on this one. I really don't think horror comedies or spoofs affect the horror genre at all. It's a sub genre. In all these years, it hasn't taken the straightforward horror away from us.

The thing that really ticks me off is when a horror film is remade with contempt for the original. The Wicker Man for example.

You guys are all changing my mind about the subject. I agree with what you said about the remakes. I hated The new Wicker Man. The original was great but that Nic Cage piece of crap was one of the worst movies i've ever seen.

crabapple 07-04-2011 12:31 PM

I love reading these discussions. A fascinating topic. There is much wisdom on these boards!


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