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scouse mac 06-15-2009 03:05 PM

ED209 would win hands down. The infection speed of zombies is too slow for there to be many kills attributed to it.

It would be a different matter if it were the rage zombies from 28 days later. Their infection take a couple of seconds to take hold and they move very quickly.

milktoaste 06-16-2009 07:23 AM

Seems to be a landslide victory for the ED209, but I don't think it's so cut and dry. Surely the ED209 would jump to an early and commanding lead, but the real question is can it kill more than 50 drunk students before they incapasitate the robot. We know they ROTLD runing zombies cannot be killed, not even destroying the brain will stop them. We also know that once the ED209 is on it's back it will simply flail around and cry like a baby. The ED209 also tends to give you a couple of warnings before it shoots you, giving plenty of time for a small group to push it over. We've all seen footage (or been a part of) college riots and have seen small groups flipping over full sized cars, or pulling down goal posts.

If the same were to be done to the zombies, a group working together to incapasitate it would be incredibely vulnerable to infection. Once ED209 is down, it'll only be a matter of time before the zombies clean up the leftovers. Zombies win hands down, the giant bumbling robot can't compete with an unstopable, infection spreading, starving for human brains foe.

milktoaste 06-17-2009 04:01 AM

One more day of getting crushed by the 'what's your favorite soup?' thread haha. If no one else posts today, it'll surely be a win for the ED209. I'll try one more question tomarrow before I give up and start eating soup:D

Haunted 06-17-2009 04:33 AM

My favorite soup is butternut squash with a little bit of seasoning. Post a decent question, Milktoast, something that has some semblence of importance.;) :D

milktoaste 06-17-2009 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Haunted (Post 814074)
My favorite soup is butternut squash with a little bit of seasoning. Post a decent question, Milktoast, something that has some semblence of importance.;) :D

Ya, the trivial, pointless questions just aren't going to cut it. Picking a favorite soup however is impossible for me. Soup is completely dependant on weather, season and my own personal mood when I decide I want soup. Right now it's sprinkling out which is good soup weather, maybe I'll have to post my eventual soup of choice in the appropriate thread after lunch.

Tomorrow I'll see if I can't come up with a more engaging question.

novakru 06-17-2009 11:42 AM

I'm sitting in the disagreement box with Angra:cool:

Haunted 06-17-2009 05:58 PM

I might have to go with the college kids, because back in college when we were drunk (and stoned) we were like fucking McGuyver.

milktoaste 06-19-2009 05:01 AM

Ok, so it was a really stupid question but really, I came up with it in as much time as it took to type it. ED209 is packing some serious heat, it's got fucking rockets for Christs sake. But can a winner really be picked out of a such a stupid scenerio, no, but it sure can get boring. I thought of atleast 20 more debatable questions, but they all seemed to be Subject A Vs. Subject B and I really want to avoid that. Instead I'll try to stick with a more standard pros vs. cons of a specific topic. A winner will not be chosen, atleast not by me, so that any past debates can be argued. I will continue to argue only for the seemingly unpopular side of any topic. So here's my first topic, I'll post another in 3 days. Don't just state a possition, but offer an arguement or rebutle. Pros vs. Cons.....

The rape scene, and not the camera cutting away and the audience left with the suggestion, but right there on the screen is a man raping a man/woman/child. I've seen atleast 5 movies with such scenes, Irreversable probably being the worst/most memorable for me. With these scenes a director can take us to horrible places, and can effortlessly effect our emotions, while we either turn our heads in disgust or watch unwavering at it's brutal honesty.

Demonique 06-19-2009 07:22 AM

I'm sorry . . . what was the question? I seem to have missed it.

Haunted 06-19-2009 09:05 AM

If you're implying as to whether or not we need to see actual rape scenes in films, I say no. Well, let's put it like this, I'm not going to watch your fucking film. I've had the experience personally, and I don't need to watch reinacted on screne.

Here's the thing about art: If it's actually good art it will carry itself. This is possibly the hardest intellectual arguemnt in the world, because everyone has a different take on what art actually *is*. Is a bowl of shit a work of genius or is it just a bowl of shit? A man raping a woman (or even vice versa) will never be art to me, and that's probably because it's happened to me twice. So it's a very personal level. Hell, a solid red canvass isn't art to me, but that's me.

So now I have to tell you what is art to me and contradict myself, right? Art should actually take me places that I've never been, make me see worlds that I've never seen. Art should take me outside of myself. Art should also make me explore myself, but art shouldn't violate me. It shouldn't violate anyone. If you say that a piece of art violated you, and you're happy about it, then that piece of art didn't violate you. It fucked you good and hard, but it didn't violate you.

Most people don't know the definition of violation until it really happens to them.


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