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AmericanManiac 01-16-2008 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 659701)
Thanks, but it doesn't work with what I'm trying to do.

And sadly, the font I'm trying to use on the "Enter Site" page, only works on other computers, IF they have that font downloaded.

Make it a jpeg or a gif, let me ask you something. How much of this site do you have done, if its not much, maybe we can talk about re-launching mine. I could send you all the files, so you could update them when you wanted. How advanced are you in html, or do you use a program like Dreamweaver.

My site has a lot of css, but I used that for pretty much the layout, so you really don't need to know anything about it. If you don't have a lot of the site built already hit me up on msn [email protected] or aim: STAmericanManiac. Message me either way, it's been a long time, take care.

joshaube 01-16-2008 01:39 PM

Hm, you're making a site similar to Blood-Disgusting, only a lot more? Ouch. I'm afraid to say, it's going to be a long journey.

A site like Bloody-Disgusting runs off PHP and MySQL and advanced code. To do news updates like they do, that uses PHP and mySQL. The commenting feature is also highly advanced. Their review pit is even further advanced. Let's not talk about their streaming video clips (BDTV.) A forum at that scale would suck a lot of bandwidth by itself.

To run a site like BD, you can't get by with a free host, or even a smaller host. You're looking at an expensive, or even dedicated (as in owning your own server) hosting.

MySQL is a database. It stores information, and allows you to recall it on a whim. They are confusing, and advanced little devices. Using one requires PHP knowledge. Hell, activating one can even be confusing.

Now... you could do BD in all HTML, on a free-site / low cost host. Just don't expect many visitors, or else your bandwidth will go down the drain. Also, you would manually have to re-edit every page each time you update. A news update? That means writing a new one at top, moving every other one down, and if you run out of space... that means saving the overflow news in a separate file, or moving it manually to another archives page.

PHP and MySQL are basically... automation. Instead of you manually moving items, it will do it for you. You write a news post, and it will say to your website: "Hey... move the past news down, display this at the top. Now... move the older news post to an archive, and use this code to display that archive on a separate page." Of course that would all happen in 0.002 seconds.

For example...

Quote:

<font size="3"><b>News Post Example</b></font><br>
<font size="1">This is just a sample news posting.</font>
<p>
Hello world. This is just a sample news posting!
I hope you enjoy my site... keeping reading!
Or...

Write your post in a text editor, similar to the one used to create a new thread on this forum, store it in a mysql database... and use this to call it up on your page.

Quote:

<?php include("news.php"); ?>
Not only is this easier when updating, but it keeps the sizes of your pages small... therefore allowing you MORE pages.

It doesn't look like much here... but keep in mind. When you have 3508 new posts... the HTML file will have EVERY single post, in the same format as above... while the PHP file? Just that single line. Forever.

Another thing to note. Don't worry about how many pages a host will let you have. The amount of pages you have doesn't mean shit. It depends on the SIZE each page is. Hosts don't allocate an amount of pages (ie... 50 pages max.), they allocate space (ie... 50MB max.)

So if you had a 50MB host... the results could vary.
1 massive page of code that is, somehow, 50MB... and your done...
Or 50 pages that are 1MB in size.

Essentially you can have as many pages as you can fit in.

VampiricClown 01-17-2008 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshaube (Post 659934)
Hm, you're making a site similar to Blood-Disgusting, only a lot more? Ouch. I'm afraid to say, it's going to be a long journey.

A site like Bloody-Disgusting runs off PHP and MySQL and advanced code. To do news updates like they do, that uses PHP and mySQL. The commenting feature is also highly advanced. Their review pit is even further advanced. Let's not talk about their streaming video clips (BDTV.) A forum at that scale would suck a lot of bandwidth by itself.

To run a site like BD, you can't get by with a free host, or even a smaller host. You're looking at an expensive, or even dedicated (as in owning your own server) hosting.

MySQL is a database. It stores information, and allows you to recall it on a whim. They are confusing, and advanced little devices. Using one requires PHP knowledge. Hell, activating one can even be confusing.

Now... you could do BD in all HTML, on a free-site / low cost host. Just don't expect many visitors, or else your bandwidth will go down the drain. Also, you would manually have to re-edit every page each time you update. A news update? That means writing a new one at top, moving every other one down, and if you run out of space... that means saving the overflow news in a separate file, or moving it manually to another archives page.

PHP and MySQL are basically... automation. Instead of you manually moving items, it will do it for you. You write a news post, and it will say to your website: "Hey... move the past news down, display this at the top. Now... move the older news post to an archive, and use this code to display that archive on a separate page." Of course that would all happen in 0.002 seconds.

For example...



Or...

Write your post in a text editor, similar to the one used to create a new thread on this forum, store it in a mysql database... and use this to call it up on your page.



Not only is this easier when updating, but it keeps the sizes of your pages small... therefore allowing you MORE pages.

It doesn't look like much here... but keep in mind. When you have 3508 new posts... the HTML file will have EVERY single post, in the same format as above... while the PHP file? Just that single line. Forever.

Another thing to note. Don't worry about how many pages a host will let you have. The amount of pages you have doesn't mean shit. It depends on the SIZE each page is. Hosts don't allocate an amount of pages (ie... 50 pages max.), they allocate space (ie... 50MB max.)

So if you had a 50MB host... the results could vary.
1 massive page of code that is, somehow, 50MB... and your done...
Or 50 pages that are 1MB in size.

Essentially you can have as many pages as you can fit in.

I'm not too interested in doing the news part as much as just a review database for movies, games, books, music, etc. I have some other ideas with working with bands, artists etc.

As I said before as well, I'm not really wanting the video clips aspect anyway.

And Freewebs actually told me I could use only a total of 20 pages. To have more, I have to pay a large sum of money right off the bat. Which I was trying to avoid.

Here, take a look at what I have so far on googlepages:

wickedwonderlandstudios.googlepages.com

It's not anywhere near finished, but I was trying to do something that looked a lot less generic than this.

AmericanManiac 01-22-2008 05:57 AM

Get ahold of me on msn vampiric! I still have all the pages, from before!


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