To me, the gimmick is only fun if you're hanging with mates, having beers. I'm mostly an RPG guy, which makes me a solitary gamer for the most part. I hope they come out with a regular controller for people who don't want to set about in their skivvies, waiving their arms around like an epileptic trying to cast spells. It seems so unwholesome.

It can be used as a regular gamepad, it has the buttons on the controller.

I almost played it today but they thought I'd steal the remote so they would'nt let me.

Next time i would recommend taking OFF the ski mask, and dont shout and wave the gun like that, it makes people nervous.

:D

I won't be getting a Wii. If I'm playing video games, I want to be sitting on my ass moving my thumbs an index fingers. If I want to play tennis or bowl or stab people with a sword, I'll just go do that for real. The sole exception to this is Guitar Hero. That game's just fun

Unless I've missed something I really don't think I would have, this isn't the case.
They ARE available, yes - nes, snes, n64 (and backwards compatability with the gamecube games which you'll just buy in their original condition), also NEC's turbo-grafx-16, Sega master system and sega megadrive...as well as that, I think I may have missed a console or two in there. However, they're not free...as far as I've heard, nintendo is doing something like world of warcraft style "points" cards, each game being worth a different amount of points.
The old stuff should be fairly cheap though, and worthwhile if it's something you really want (I can think of more than a few for me).

Red Steel looks pretty M rated? I would imagine call of duty 3 is too.
I have a feeling that there might be some issues with the controllers initially, one of the reasons I'm waiting (at the edge of my patience) a little while to pick this up. Agreed...nintendo needs to "grow up" a little if it's gonna secure an ongoing place this gen-'round...of course, the gamecube had a few more adult titles, I'd assume this one will have a few more.

Or there's the "classic" controller thing, that looks more or less like the snes controller did.

Doesn't mean it WON'T. Took Sony long enough to get the ps2 stuff online, hm? Besides, I dunno where you're hearing this from, but I'd assume that since you can download older games (anyone here done that yet? how so?), that the system is at least potentially compatible for the future to do so...

Yeah, as I said, I'm waiting a little while.
I want to see if any other controllers come out with chages/fixes, I want more old games available than there are at present, I want to be able to grab a few games with it, and see if the price falls any over 6 months.
All in all, I think it's gonna be a pretty good system, with some quality titles.
The 2-player robot buddy - crazy, the powerglove - dead, the virtual boy - damn near never existed in the first place...Nintendo has seen it's share of failed gimmicks...this one looks like the realisation of something really good this time. I've got high hopes, and I'm glad to hear that the controller interface is actually pretty good to use.

The wii isn't made for gamers, they want to get people who don't play videogames. They don't want to scare people away by having "rapeD!!! raped!!1 motherfucker ur badd!!!11! ur bad11!!! yelled at them online.

I really don't think the wii will ever go online.

lol.They said that I needed to give them my wallet and a certified government Id.

If it never goes online I'd be just fine with it. I already have a PS2, a 360, and a PC that play online just fine.

You can play with just making small wrist movements if you want, it doesn't take a lot of energy unless you put a lot of energy into it. Personally I think a few drinks and Wii bowling is a blast with some friends but as you drink more, please, tighten the wrist strap on the controller.

xbox 360 premium holiday bundle goes down to 399$ CDN tomorrow (It's going to be 299$ in the US I'm sure.) Some places are throwing in gear of war too. :)