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Dante'sInferno 05-25-2006 11:03 PM

If he becomes president again.




I'm moving to Japan.

bwind22 05-25-2006 11:05 PM

Well, I basically don't associate myself with either party because to me, even though they are labeled as 2 seperate parties, I view them all as the same thing... Greedy politicians.

On the issues, I tend to lean a little more to the right (conservative, republican side) than the left (liberal, democratic side) but that's not to say I am thrilled with or support every Republican.


Instead, I tend to look at the individual & try to determine whether or not they seem trustworthy.

bwind22 05-25-2006 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
If he becomes president again.




I'm moving to Japan.

No, no.. George Bush cant be President again. He's done in 08. That's a sure thing.

The post above yours was refering to his brother, Jeb Bush.

bwind22 05-25-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricClown
That makes it hard, because I agree and disagree with both. Maybe I should stay out of the voting. I don't think it makes any difference either. When Kerry had more votes than Bush, and Bush won because of the electorial votes, that proves that us ants have no real say so in the matter.
Yeah, the electoral college method of voting is FUCKED! I live in a state that is always, always, always democratic. Even when when Reagan won in his landslide victory, Minnesota was the ONLY state to vote democratic, so yeah, if I were to vote republican, it's a total waste of time.

The entire system needs a major overhaul.

What they should do is break it down proportionately. Say a state has 10 EC votes and 60% of the state votes democrat and 40% votes republican. 6 of those EC votes should go to the democrat, 4 to the republican. This all or nothing system we are currently using is totally stupid.

Dante'sInferno 05-25-2006 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bwind22
No, no.. George Bush cant be President again. He's done in 08. That's a sure thing.

The post above yours was refering to his brother, Jeb Bush.

Oh..




But you know what they say,it run's in the family.

bwind22 05-25-2006 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
Oh..




But you know what they say,it run's in the family.

Well, chew on this for a few minutes....



George Bush Sr. 1988-1992
Bill Clinton 1992-2000
George Bush Jr 2000-2008

And if it ends up being Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton, then it's another 4-8 years.

In all, that will be 24-28 years of the same 2 families running this country (in to the ground)!

Just say 'No' to Jeb & Hillary.

Dante'sInferno 05-25-2006 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bwind22
Well, chew on this for a few minutes....



George Bush Sr. 1988-1992
Bill Clinton 1992-2000
George Bush Jr 2000-2008

And if it ends up being Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton, then it's another 4-8 years.

In all, that will be 24-28 years of the same 2 families running this country (in to the ground)!

Just say 'No' to Jeb & Hillary.

Yeah!

tonemeister 05-25-2006 11:48 PM

well i would love to see giuliani run but i think his health would be an issue. hillary? i would vote for a woman but not her....just can't stand her, so many better choices out there. kerry? wasn't smart enough to beat bush....lost respect for him. al gore.......lol. jeb bush? don't think he'll run......really, really, hope he doesn't. both parties get there money from the same corporations so their both full of shit to me.......would love to see more third and fouth party candidates have more of a shot. some countries have 6 and seven parties. we who are the home of the free seem to squash anyone who isn't republican or democrat and that's just sad.

bwind22 05-26-2006 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by tonemeister
well i would love to see giuliani run but i think his health would be an issue. hillary? i would vote for a woman but not her....just can't stand her, so many better choices out there. kerry? wasn't smart enough to beat bush....lost respect for him. al gore.......lol. jeb bush? don't think he'll run......really, really, hope he doesn't. both parties get there money from the same corporations so their both full of shit to me.......would love to see more third and fouth party candidates have more of a shot. some countries have 6 and seven parties. we who are the home of the free seem to squash anyone who isn't republican or democrat and that's just sad.
Well, I almost totally agree with you. Except that we, the people, don't squash 3rd party hopes. The Democrats & Republicans are the ones that squash any hopes of ever seeing a viable 3rd party candidate, let alone a 4th, 5th or 6th, because as much as they dislike each other, they aren't stupid. They realize that more parties means less control for them (both parties, collectively & individually).

Just listen to Ralph Nader talk about it some time. He knows first hand how good of a job they can do at squashing a 3rd party candidates efforts.

The only way we'll ever see a third party as a viable option will be if it's someone rich enough to fund their own campaign (like Ross Perot did) because none of the other parties are able to fundraise enough money to even get television ads, let alone any sort of national attention.

yourlastmistake 05-26-2006 02:38 AM

I'm sick and tired of both parties. The Dems are too damn liberal and want a socialist America. The Republicans have no back bone and seem to be concerned with only the rich. In the end both parties only care about the vote and keeping their overpaid jobs and not concerned with doing whats best for the country. If people really want a change now is the time. I'm voting Libertarian in 2008. F the Democrats and Republicans.


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