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Re: Re: Re: So...sell me on all the anti-Hollywood stuff

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Originally posted by The STE
that's a terrible reason

omgz... ur a terribal reezon! :mad: :rolleyes: :o

Ok, remake stuff first, from the Oldboy Remake thread:
"since 1980 there've been around 150 remakes (credit: Box Office Mojo), which seems like a lot, until you consider that there's been over 10,346 movies made since 1980. That means that ~1.5% of the movies since 1980 have been remakes."
Addendum: average of 5 remakes a year. That's not a lot, really.

Zathura was based on a book by the same guy (Chris Van Allsburg) who wrote the book that Jumanji was based on. The blame for that goes to Allsburg.

Like you said; there are good movies out that came from Hollywood. And the bad ones you mentioned are making money. If they didn't make money, there would be no reason to make them.

Re: Re: Re: Re: So...sell me on all the anti-Hollywood stuff

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
omgz... ur a terribal reezon! :mad: :rolleyes: :o

Your FACE is a terrible reason!
OMG BURN!

Bloated over hyped stars and boring unoriginal films are what pisses off and makes me dubious of Hollywood. The Hollywood establishment (Ritchie Cunningham, the Man Boy Love Association president Steven Speilberg, ect, ect) have put out the same formulaic film over and over again for the last 15 years.
Overblown untalented "stars" (Tom Cruise, Russel Crowe) feed the world's overzealous celebrity worship and transmit values of greed while getting away with murder. Hollywood is a fine example of everything that art shouldn't be.....

Every now and then a Hollywood film does come out to rock the boat and shake things up a bit but those ideas end up reassimilated into the mainstream, dumbed down and cloned endlessly with the sole purpose of making money not art.

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Originally posted by The STE
Ok, remake stuff first, from the Oldboy Remake thread:
"since 1980 there've been around 150 remakes (credit: Box Office Mojo), which seems like a lot, until you consider that there's been over 10,346 movies made since 1980. That means that ~1.5% of the movies since 1980 have been remakes."
Addendum: average of 5 remakes a year. That's not a lot, really.

Zathura was based on a book by the same guy (Chris Van Allsburg) who wrote the book that Jumanji was based on. The blame for that goes to Allsburg.

Like you said; there are good movies out that came from Hollywood. And the bad ones you mentioned are making money. If they didn't make money, there would be no reason to make them.

I have no problem with Hollywood. There have always been good movies, bad movies, and unoriginal movies.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So...sell me on all the anti-Hollywood stuff

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Originally posted by The STE
Your FACE is a terrible reason!
OMG BURN!

i h8 u 4evah now

dear deadjournal

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Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Bloated over hyped stars and boring unoriginal films are what pisses off and makes me dubious of Hollywood. The Hollywood establishment (Ritchie Cunningham, the Man Boy Love Association president Steven Speilberg, ect, ect) have put out the same formulaic film over and over again for the last 15 years.
Overblown untalented "stars" (Tom Cruise, Russel Crowe) feed the world's overzealous celebrity worship and transmit values of greed while getting away with murder. Hollywood is a fine example of everything that art shouldn't be.....

Every now and then a Hollywood film does come out to rock the boat and shake things up a bit but those ideas end up reassimilated into the mainstream, dumbed down and cloned endlessly with the sole purpose of making money not art.

The star/celebrity worship isn't really a Hollywood thing, more of an overal media thing. The type of shit that they put on the E! Network.

And as for "rocking the boat and shaking things up" why is that the exception for all the "same old shit" category? A movie doesn't have to be Pulp Fiction to be a really good movie. To use a previously mentioned example, The Ice Harvest is a very good movie, but isn't some innovative masterpiece.

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
I have no problem with Hollywood. There have always been good movies, bad movies, and unoriginal movies.

Thats the dumbest damn thing you said all night. :p

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Originally posted by The STE
The star/celebrity worship isn't really a Hollywood thing

Don't be stupid.

Re: Re: Re: Re: So...sell me on all the anti-Hollywood stuff

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Originally posted by IDrinkYourBlood
Im pretty sure she was just fuck'n around. I just want Hollywood to get more creative. With the dribble that been out lately its like they lost there edge. I mean there's been how many remakes to come out this year as well as sequels. I mean do we really need a King Kong remake thats twice as long as the original. Or whats so bad about watching the original. I mean you can call me a stupid basterd but did anyone actually like Robots? or Shark Tales? Anybody? And whats with all the rappers getting into the movie buisness, I mean Get Rich or Die Trying has the word LAME written all over it. Or how about Zethura A.K.A. Jumaji in space. I mean there are some good movies out there, for example The Ice Harvest or Walk the Line or Rent. But sadly most of the theater is taken up by Yours, Mine and Ours and Just Friends. So I just want Hollywood out there to start getting the creative juices flowing again. Bring us movies with impact and heart ach, laughter and joy, Adrenalin and thrills. Not Into the Blue and Chicken Little.

There are different movies for different people, 4 of the ones you mentioned are kids movies, they have some adult humor and references to keep parents from falling asleep but they're made for kids.

There's great,good,just ok,bad and horrible hollywood movies and that's the way it's always going to be, nothings perfect, hollywood is no exception.