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AUSTIN316426808 10-07-2005 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
So youīre saying that "prior" in this context means a few days ago?


Well now you've managed to not only be completely confused as usual but you got me confused now too.



I think so, don't remember how long it was before they found her body.

bloodrayne 10-07-2005 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
Wauw, thatīs one hell of a christmas story..

What i donīt get is this:

"JonBenet's autopsy report revealed that she had been sexually assaulted before her death and that she exhibited signs of prior abuse".

Why would her parents do that and how could the police see signs of prior abuse???

Medical records showed that she had been to the doctor many times for urinary tract infections, bladder problems...She was a bedwetter.....I don't think the parent's really viewed her as a 'child' so much as a possession to be exploited for personal gain....When she exhibited normal childlike behavior (many children her age wet the bed) It irritated them, they didn't want to deal with it, it was 'unattractive':rolleyes: .

..Sooo, many people have theorized that she wet the bed, the night before Christmas, while her parents were throwing a huge party for the rich folk, and Patsy was NOT pleased about....It is commonly believed that one or both of them were 'punishing her' and he/she/they killed her (too much force, due to anger)

...Then, the two of them together worked to cover it up, and make it look like something else....Patsy's handwriting matched the handwriting on the ransom note, the note was written on John's personal legal pad of paper, the amount of money mentioned in the demand was the exact same amount of a bonus that John was about to receive, the amount of which only John and Patsy knew about.....There's LOTS more...But, I hate typing...

Oh..And no matter which of them did it...They both HAD to know about it...Making them each just as guilty in my eyes...The fact that they hired a lawyer, refused to answer questions or cooperate with investigaters, and left the state when the focus turned toward them (which is actually common, family members are always questioned first) didn't help to make them look any less guilty either...

scouse mac 10-07-2005 10:21 AM

My guess would be look very close to home, couldn't say if the parents did it but a close family member in these cases is usually the one

AUSTIN316426808 10-07-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
the note was written on John's personal legal pad of paper

That's just off the wall stupid.

Angra 10-07-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
Medical records showed that she had been to the doctor many times for urinary tract infections, bladder problems...She was a bedwetter.....I don't think the parent's really viewed her as a 'child' so much as a possession to be exploited for personal gain....When she exhibited normal childlike behavior (many children her age wet the bed) It irritated them, they didn't want to deal with it, it was 'unattractive':rolleyes: .

..Sooo, many people have theorized that she wet the bed, the night before Christmas, while her parents were throwing a huge party for the rich folk, and Patsy was NOT pleased about....It is commonly believed that one or both of them were 'punishing her' and he/she/they killed her (too much force, due to anger)

...Then, the two of them together worked to cover it up, and make it look like something else....Patsy's handwriting matched the handwriting on the ransom note, the note was written on John's personal legal pad of paper, the amount of money mentioned in the demand was the exact same amount of a bonus that John was about to receive, the amount of which only John and Patsy knew about.....There's LOTS more...But, I hate typing...

Oh..And no matter which of them did it...They both HAD to know about it...Making them each just as guilty in my eyes...The fact that they hired a lawyer, refused to answer questions or cooperate with investigaters, and left the state when the focus turned toward them (which is actually common, family members are always questioned first) didn't help to make them look any less guilty either...


Thatīs some good material for a horror/crime movie right there.


But what about the sexual abuse?

newb 10-07-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by scouse mac
My guess would be look very close to home, couldn't say if the parents did it but a close family member in these cases is usually the one
My guess as well.

The_Return 10-07-2005 10:29 AM

I gotta agree that I think it was the mother. But there is some rather intriguing evidance that points in all directions....whoever it was certainly covered their tracks well.

Angra 10-07-2005 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by newb
My guess as well.

I just canīt imagine both her parents sexually abusing her and then kill her..... Thatīs just too horrible...... Why would they?

bloodrayne 10-07-2005 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
But what about the sexual abuse?
My guess....Something was done to make it look like a different type of crime...OR she actually was a sexually abused child (sadly, that's more common than most people would believe), but I would say if that were the case, it was the father (the abuse, not necessarily the murder), he always acted VERY nervous and jumpy when questioned...Many sexually abused children are bedwetters, that's why when a child has chronic urinary tract infections, or any type of recurring infection in 'that area' doctors are instructed to 'ask questions or report it'...It's usually viewed as 'suspicious'


And neither parent had any objection to dressing her up to look like a tiny child prostitute, and putting her on display...That part is more than obvious...

scouse mac 10-07-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
I just canīt imagine both her parents sexually abusing her and then kill her..... Thatīs just too horrible...... Why would they?
The father carries out the abuse with the full knowledge of the mother, goes too far and a cover up must be done to protect the rest of the family from the truth. unfortunately its not an uncommon sequence of events just this one recieved a shit load more publicity


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