Yeah first time i got on a plane in San Fran it took like 4 hours going through all the security. I mean they shouldve cracked down a little but they went a little over the borderon this one

Also Lord of the Flies, and many other books.......even fairy tales.

I think because of all the violence that has occured involving children over the past few years, society has become over sensitive to anything related to it. Problem is it is almost impossible to avoid whithout contradicting ourselves. Just look at all the people who won't even let their kids participate in Halloween activities because of the horror connection!


Society is systematically taking all the joy out of childhood and sheltering kids from the realities of life. No wonder so many kids lack self control.

WHAT

ok here is how i see and ITS JUST AN OPINION (that could in fact offend some)
if you get killed on a plane with a box cutter and there are like 50 ppl on the plane not doing shit about it WTF IS UP. I MEAN 50 ppl cant take a couple of guys with FUCKING BOX CUTTERS. BESIDES a little tighten security aint gonna do shit about planes being hijacked and ppl deing. I hate it when ppl try to get us to sacrifice freedoms in order to get a lil more of a secure feeling. and if you have freedoms to sacrifice then you are not really free.

I dont know what it was like for them on the plane or anything but with just box cutters, you would think the human spirit and will to survive in those 50 people would amount to SOMETHING atleast.....

I agree about the freedoms and believe the patriot act is one step down a very steep road.....

"Those who are willing to sacrifice freedom for safety deserve neither" - Can't remember

Agreed....

It was Benjamin Franklin..."They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben also said: "Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed; too severe, seldom executed."

I think going through metal detectors or having your luggage searched is not an "essential" liberty. IMO

"may he who is without sin cast the first rock and i shall smoketh it"-tyrone biggums

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[B]WHAT

ok here is how i see and ITS JUST AN OPINION (that could in fact offend some)
if you get killed on a plane with a box cutter and there are like 50 ppl on the plane not doing shit about it WTF IS UP. I MEAN 50 ppl cant take a couple of guys with FUCKING BOX CUTTERS.


They used box cutters,pepper spray and threatened that they had a bomb. On all the planes. They were also more than a couple of people.[the terrorist] Groups of 4 and 5. I imagine after the first throats were cut, people were very intimidated.
The one plane crashed into the ground because a group of passengers broke into the cockpit. They knew about the Twin Towers and decided to go down fighting. That plane was supposed to hit the White House.

Ya i agree but dont get me wrong here im not saying anything bad about the ppl that died in 9/11. im not really talking bout 9/11 im just saying in general. i mean the only thing that we are really doing when we tighten homeland security and tighten security in airports is just to get a "safe feeling" i mean you can never be 100 percent safe. its just like Arioch said. i mean the will to survive should kick in at some point and a little fear of getting my throat cut isnt gonna stop me from trying to FIGHT FOR MY LIFE. that plane that went down before it hit the white house was probably the bravest thing i have ever heard i mean damn that takes some balls.