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Arioch 10-13-2004 08:17 PM

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i swear it makes me sick to even watch that shit any more.they just bullshit its fucking discusting and we have to pick one of them to be our president. it impossible to tell who is honest or shit. war, health care, freedom. they say what people want to hear empty lies. ok ill shut up im just bitching now.
Why i dont vote sir....i refuse to perpetuate the problems inherent in a 2 party system....

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 05:26 AM

I watched the debate last night, and was really looking forward to it because domestic issues are a major concern for me. I agree with Arioch in that I was disappointed in how much clout both candidates put in faith. But I can understand it. If you're going to win the votes of as many Americans as you can, you'd better talk about how faith and religion are important (even if you don't believe it). I think Kerry did a better job than Bush in emphasizing that people of all faiths (and even those of us with no faith at all) deserve equal rights. And Kerry was more clear with the point that he would not legislate in such a way that his faith is pushed on others (hence his stances on abortion, stem cell research, and gay marriage.) Granted, he does agree with Bush that "marriage" is defined as the union between a man and a woman. But Kerry is more accepting of gay couples than Bush is, and is willing to extend the same rights to gay couples that married couples already enjoy. Basically, even though Kerry did talk about how his faith is important to him (he HAD to say that -- anything else would have been death for him, unfortunately), he was pretty clear -- albeit, in a roundabout way -- that he does not believe in governing a nation in such a way that everyone is forced to conform to the religious ideas of the President -- meaning: he is so very much for separation of church and state.

Can't say the same for Bush.

movieman64 10-14-2004 06:00 AM

Busch won last night, and will go on to defeat Kerry in November. I also felt bringing Chaney's daughter into it was unnecessary.

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
Busch won last night, and will go on to defeat Kerry in November. I also felt bringing Chaney's daughter into it was unnecessary.
Why do you keep spelling Bush's name like the beer? Is it some kind of joke (like: "I hope the beer wins the presidency!"?)

I agree that Kerry shouldn't have mentioned Cheney's daughter. Not really anybody's business.

movieman64 10-14-2004 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Why do you keep spelling Bush's name like the beer? Is it some kind of joke (like: "I hope the beer wins the presidency!"?)

I agree that Kerry shouldn't have mentioned Cheney's daughter. Not really anybody's business.

OOOP's, habit I guess, thank you for correcting me.

On that note isn't the Owner/CEO of Coors's running for Governor in Colorado?

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
OOOP's, habit I guess, thank you for correcting me.

On that note isn't the Owner/CEO of Coors's running for Governor in Colorado?

lol I don't really know. Not sure how I would feel about that, though.

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 06:26 AM

War issues aside, we need a democrat in the house.

Simple as that.


Republicans care about the upper class.

Democrats care about the people.

You want more jobs in this country? You want to bring back the jobs Bush sent overseas so that the rich got even richer? You want our economy to get better? You want the middle and lower class people to have more money and food on their tables?

Then you need Kerry in the White House.


I'm about this country, and our people, I've felt firsthand what the job loss has done, what this fucked up economy has done.

It's time to fix it!

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by Ninja Moo
War issues aside, we need a democrat in the house.

Simple as that.


Republicans care about the upper class.

Democrats care about the people.

You want more jobs in this country? You want to bring back the jobs Bush sent overseas so that the rich got even richer? You want our economy to get better? You want the middle and lower class people to have more money and food on their tables?

Then you need Kerry in the White House.


I'm about this country, and our people, I've felt firsthand what the job loss has done, what this fucked up economy has done.

It's time to fix it!

It's too bad you're married. (sigh). Then again, I'm married too ... forgot about that.

allmykids 10-14-2004 06:48 AM

AAAHHHHH!!!! :( No more please! it's on every chanel. Make it stop!!

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
It's too bad you're married. (sigh). Then again, I'm married too ... forgot about that.
It wouldn't work anyways... You're an English teacher ... I'm going to school to be an English teacher.. We'd spend our whole lives correcting one another .. and neither would be able to add worth a shit. :D


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