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Ginger<3 10-30-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by trippin_the_rif (Post 499194)
I dont wanna get what went on before started again, she's taken enough shit for it and its gone and ppl have moved on. I'm aware of what you're going thru. We used to talk, remember? All we can do as adults is guide them. They're gonna do what they want when they're not around us. Thet's the way life goes. I have accepted that there fore I chose to raise my daughter completely differently from the way I was raised/ Times have changed and they will continue to change.


i know times have changed and i'm not strict by any means but i see her parents letting this behaviour continue and she's spiraling and it's hard to watch. now she's trying drugs and smoking and i think she's having sex or close to it and it's gotten to a point where i can't talk to my sister about it because they "don't want to treat her like a prisoner". but you know what? like i said i'm not strict but as a parent sometimes you can't be the friend and you have to be the parent. your number one job is to do everything in your power to keep them safe and give them the morals to do what's right when they are alone. maybe they won't follow them and maybe they'll screw up but at least you did everthing you could. it;s all very sad when parents are scared to be parents like my sister. there's somewhere between too strict and too loose .... somewhere in the middle where kids can be safe and still like you. sorry to go on, this topic is just really a part of my life right now.

The Flayed One 10-30-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Olivia (Post 499198)
Let's Do The Time Warp Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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AmericanManiac 10-30-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginger<3 (Post 499200)
i know times have changed and i'm not strict by any means but i see her parents letting this behaviour continue and she's spiraling and it's hard to watch. now she's trying drugs and smoking and i think she's having sex or close to it and it's gotten to a point where i can't talk to my sister about it because they "don't want to treat her like a prisoner". but you know what? like i said i'm not strict but as a parent sometimes you can't be the friend and you have to be the parent. your number one job is to do everything in your power to keep them safe and give them the morals to do what's right when they are alone. maybe they won't follow them and maybe they'll screw up but at least you did everthing you could. it;s all very sad when parents are scared to be parents like my sister. there's somewhere between too strict and too loose .... somewhere in the middle where kids can be safe and still like you. sorry to go on, this topic is just really a part of my life right now.

I feel like this is a total bullshit speech, my parents were always my friend, they wasn't strict on me they believed in me, that I would make the right choices. Havin that freedom to learn from your own mistakes does infact make you have good morals. I have never gotten in trouble by the government or anything. I made my own choices they let it happen and I am a great guy, with great morals, you have to have trust in a child to raise them right.

Phalanx 10-30-2006 10:26 AM

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two, you underestimate my maturity and knowledge,. You were all kids once and you know that this kind of talk happens all the time at school. Please dont belittle me.
You belittle yourself, and indirectly, the forum...even if you're only in a small way reprasentative of those who post here. Way I see it, don't matter the intention of it, you don't joke about paedophilia.
If you were at all as mature as you claim, you'd see this clear as day.
For once, I'm inclined to throw in with the person who thinks you ought to be banned...why? Because you think you can make light of something you really shouldn't, make it easier for the casual onlooker to consider us a bunch of pervs, and then when you're confronted about it (and rightfully so) you have the utter gall to actually try and shrug off anything said as an over-reaction?
Don't relpy to this, or talk to me again...nothing you're gonna say is any longer valid to me. Grow up, wise up, and someplace along the line, when you see the ladder, climb over yourself.

Regarding the young chick...that's just what she is, a young chick.
I can't say I'm in the place to say it's all wrong, wrong, wrong, but I sure as hell won't call it right. Now, she seems like a nice kinda girl, but I think maybe she's a tad mislead, I think urg said it right 'her mother isn't doing her any favours'...In lots of cases I've seen personally, you dress a certain way, you get treated as such. No offence to the girl in question, but when I see a girl that age wearing less than some of the hookers I've seen in my day, I think that maybe some more emphasis on appropriate dress as per her age ought to have been passed on.
I'm dissapointed that certain members have taken the more irresponsible path with their direct, and indirect "everybody has a right to post any damn thing they want" endorsement of this kinda thing...it's just fucked up. The person is in a situation where maybe there's a lack of something that we're in a position to provide, and y'all just take her further down the garden path.
I don't think the poster in question knows or perceives this whole thing as a problem, maybe they're not old enough to understand, whatever...I wouldn't dream of placing any personal blame, calling her names or anything, but I think maybe some of us here oughta act a little more responsibly with our input.

Here, here's a picture.
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AmericanManiac 10-30-2006 10:28 AM

Well I guess it was because i'm a guy, now that I look at it and stop to think about it my parents were really strict on my sister, also if I had a daughter I would be worryin about her all the time also. So to Ginger I am sorry for snapping I didn't think first.

tic 10-30-2006 10:30 AM

The only problem I had was that BD wanted to be in the 'glamour' industry, fine upto her when she is an adult, not a 14 year old. I'm sure lot of girls want to do that as well and end up on the streets, full of crack, homeless or worse making the front cover of some seedy magazine; hopefully her parents will point her in the right direction, and not to some back street photo-studio.

ferretchucker 10-30-2006 10:31 AM

My parents aren't strict and they arent easy. I love hem like all children. I'm not allowed to swear, have drugs or go out without telling them all the info and being back by nine o'clock. I like it that way because it means i know they care. Some peoples parent are all about "it's your life" but to me, if my parents just stood by and let me swear, shout, go out, have sex and steal, i would know i'm ending up bad and want them to help.

There's a girl in my class who smoked. Her mum found out and was upset. Why? not because she smoked, but because she smoked behind her mums back! Now she's allowed to smoke in he house becase her mum would rather her do it infront of her than behind her back!


No, i do not agree with cyber sex, children looking at pornograph, underage sex, drinking or smoking or taking drugs. But like was stated, it is the people around you that make you what you are. If your parents let you run wild then you will be an out of control, irresponsible, carefree person. Some people don;'t when put in that situation but %75 percent of people in prison is because their parents weren't firm enough on them as children.

Miss Olivia 10-30-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Flayed One (Post 499201)


Very well put, Phalanx, I couldn't agree with you more.

If you don't control yourself, you could end up a sweet transvestite, from Transexual Transylvania......jumping on every Brad and Janet that shows up at your mansion......endlessly doing the Time Warp to pay the rent....making muscular morons in your laboratory who never change their gold lame underwear.....

Ah, the humanity.

AmericanManiac 10-30-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 499209)


No, i do not agree with cyber sex, children looking at pornograph, underage sex,

Ok just a few minutes ago you were looking for an older woman to have cybersex with you on the web cam ???? Or did I just imagine this ?

Roderick Usher 10-30-2006 10:34 AM

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