I got no idea who those people are ::big grin::
If they're actors, they'll probably get fined or fired if they use the word.
Wish someone would crash a recording, run through the set and yell
"Zombieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!" from the top of his lungs.

I thought the finale was knda weak

On the days me wife and I watch the show; before it starts, I often jokingly call her saying "The boring dead is starting."

The show really became a snoozefest. However, I have to admit it has its moments, but those are becoming less and less each season.

This season finale was like chickens with guns running around shooting at each other. And leading to it a lot of staring and talking about nothingness. A total mess.

I like the comic better. Way better.

Then again I'll be watching next season. I always hope the show gets better. ;)

Got the DVD set on Saturday and wife and I are currently up to Third Disc, second Episode. While I'm liking it (Really intense opener), am finding there's too many people to keep up with, Negan is really too broad and find it hard to believe a badass like Rick could roll over and show his belly so easily. However, do like the King and Shiva (think my Black Cat could be her) and sure the action will amp up...let's hope.

Finished it this weekend and while it did get better, probably the least of the series so far. Kind of like DEXTER...thought the first five seasons were fantastic than a really weak next season that picked up. Hopefully Season 8 of TWD will get back to those past glories

Who's seen these last two eps for Season 9?


Ep 1 "A New Beginning" October 21, 2018

"Eighteen months after Negan's defeat, the various communities are working on rebuilding society, however, the Sanctuary suffers from infertile ground and underlying support for Negan. Rick leads a trek to a Washington, D.C. museum to recover pioneering supplies."

It wasn't a particularly exciting ep to start the season, that's for sure. It's setting the big picture, and it's interesting to see if "Carl's Way" can work in this environment over the Negan way.


Ep 2 "The Bridge" October 14, 2018

"the communities work together to repair the bridge"

This ep was relatively low key too. Nothing new or exciting. I mean I know it's Season 9 and all, but the day-to-day stuff here seems really mundane. At least they have a little Negan time at the end. They should have started with that in ep 1.

I watched a couple of episodes of the show and didn't really like it.

I think a zombie apocalypse works better in a movie or video game not a TV show. ::wink::

It's really character driven, as you'd expect from a successful 9 season show, but at times during series the content and plot are riveting.

Which two eps did you see? Was it the first two of season one?

There's a lot of characters to digest in those early eps, but I think it does give you a flavor of the format. It really focuses pretty quick after the first few eps.

It's a cultural phenomena, which always has some extra value. And I know you like the genre in general. I might recommend you watch the entire 1st season just to see how it shapes up, and see if you like it, because it does change and focus after those first 2 eps.

Overall in the series, it fluctuates for sure as to how good it is at times. But I've been interested enough to see the whole series.

I don't really remember which episodes I saw but I remember bits and pieces of the scenes. One was about a group of survivors trying to turn an abandoned prison into a shelter and one I think was about a group of people trapped in a building trying to make it out of the city (I think it was Atlanta but I'm not sure) . There was also a black woman slicing zombies up with a katana which I thought looked so ridiculous, and one episode had a town of people protected from the zombies who were using them for fun and a female character was critisizing a man about how dangerous it is to play around with the zombies. There was also a scene with a redneck being racist to an Asian guy and later he had him captured like he was trying to torture him or something.

That's all I really remember about what I saw of the show.

I stopped watching in season 8. Got very bored with it.

I think some parts of it felt too much like Land of the Dead to me.

I like realistic zombie stories about ordinary people fighting to stay alive (and soldiers can be ordinary people too when they aren't portrayed as action heroes).

No large settlements of human survivors, no customized armor vehicles made out of junkyard parts, and no killing zombies with silly weapons like harpoon guns or katanas (unless the person picks it up because nothing else is available not because they want to "look cool").

At first I wondered if it would be like Land of the Dead, but in essence it's very different. For one thing it's not about zombie evolution or class divide. It's about the main characters, ensemble cast. They'll run into leaders of various types, but it's always up close and personal.

"I like realistic zombie stories about ordinary people fighting to stay alive" -- Walking Dead is exactly that, but might not be your cup of tea.

In the Walking Dead, zombies are attracted by sound over distances, (and visually too), so you don't want to shoot a gun unless you have to. That being the case, if you had a katana, or came across one... that's got to be one of the best weapons there is, light and two handed, everybody would want it. Of course they're fairly rare in the US, but you'd expect to see a few swords popup.

Also realistically, you'd see all those things, mix of old and new weapons, 'customized armor vehicles made out of junkyard parts', human settlements of various sizes. There aren't too many customized armored vehicles, but once in a while you'll see something different. But basically, it's a fairly dark series.

See I don't think that in a real zombie apocalypse there would be "settlements" of human survivors living in walled cities. I mean for one thing when exactly would the humans find the time to build the walls with swarms of zombies attacking everywhere? And I don't think that there would be enough survivors to even have settlements because most everybody would either be already dead or infected.

I think Day of the Dead showed a more realistic portrayal of the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse. It would most likely be a few scattered groups of people hiding out in shelters like the military guys and scientists in that movie.
They would be isolated away from other groups of survivors and have to live on whatever supplies they had. If they ran out of supplies I think it's possible that they would raid abandoned stores for supplies but that would be taking a huge risk.

Also I agree that melee weapons would realistically work better in a zombie apocalypse than guns. Guns run out of ammo and it's actually very hard to shoot a target in the head from a distance (which is the only way to kill a zombie).

I think something sturdy and hard like a baseball bat or crowbar would work best. Like in the beginning of Night of the Living Dead when Ben was using a tire iron and Barbara picked up a fire poker.

I think, like in Walking Dead, the cities would be overrun, run out of supplies fast, but in the rural areas, with lots of space, there's infrequent zombies here or there, or big swarms that come through. You'd go out for supplies here and there, and otherwise, you have a fair degree of self sufficiency, some big gardens or outright farms. That's the world of Walking Dead.

I think the whole thing about the savior's is far-fetched. They are all in the exact same situation and most of the savior's are just people that Negan found here and there who are basically dedicating their lives to him whether if he wants them to kill people or not because they consider him their savior. considering it's only Negan who seems to be so damn power-hungry, all the others, even if it's just his wives ganging up together, could have taken him out easily. Na post zombie apocalyptic world, wouldn't everyone be trying to stick together in any way they can rather than going around and taking everyone's Provisions from them and leaving them to die and just creating even more walkers? It's as if logic has been thrown out the window on this show.

And it always bugs me whenever humans kill other humans during a zombie apocalypse regardless of the reasons why.

Like in Day of the Dead when Rhodes and his men tried to feed Sarah to the zombies. The humans are almost extinct because of the zombies taking over the world and you really want to kill the only female in your group when she is needed for procreation? ::roll eyes::

Like in real life, the men surrounding Negan have their perks and power only because of what Negan has proven he can do with people. The bigger his group gets -- big when our friends run into him -- the more unlikely it is someone can replace him.

It might be doable to stab Negan in the back, though extremely risky, but replacing the perks they get are extremely unlikely to be replaced. And taking his place would be very difficult too. Not to mention you would have started a trend of "replacing the leader", which happens is history.

There's always some criminals out there, and then add desperate situations, and you'll get people who'd take your stuff and leave you for dead. Most people in the show try to stick together.

It would matter how and why the zombie apocalypse starts. At the end of Night of the Living Dead (1968), it looks like humanity has wiped out all the zombie's by lunchtime the next day, right?

I don't think any film has stated how, or what, actually starts it; or is there?

If it's just dead unrestrained bodies, ie, not in graves, not locked in morgues, coming back to life... that's not very many bodies. Hard to say where that tipping point would be, where, or how fast it gets out of hand.

Yeah both versions of NotLD made it look like the humans defeated the zombies by the next day. ::big grin::

Dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead both showed that wasn't the case and the zombies pretty much took over the whole world.

I think what allows the zombies to take over the world so easily is the confusion and panic. Why is every dead person in the world getting up again? Why are they eating people? Why is it that when they bite somebody that person turns too? Why can't we stop them with bullets like a normal person?

Plus think about the fact that the characters in zombie movies always act like they have never seen a zombie movie before.::big grin::

Yeah, if it happened today, some people wouldn't even be scared. They'd be like calling their friends up, "Hey, Dude, grab your katana!"

If a virus woke the dead at night, it could be pretty ugly really fast, like in NOTLD, and then if the zombies open doors, then I could see cities falling. I still think rural areas could survive. It's not like humans aren't resourceful. In my opinion, it takes some suspension of disbelief to believe humanity getting the upperhand wouldn't be inevitable. I think the big cities are the real question marks.

Also don't underestimate the desire among some people to have a strong leader in such extreme times. Even if he's a jerk and a dictator.

Can Rick's way replace him?

Yeah that's true. It's in our human nature to look towards a leader of some sort for guidance regardless if he/she is good or bad.

We're just like those families of apes in the wild that have an alpha male and an alpha female.

Plus you can never have two humans in the same room without one trying to be in control of the other.

Delivering a valid, nuanced answer to that question while at the same time providing entertaining television... Now THAT'S a challenge for a team of writers. :)

When does Walking Dead start back anyway, tonight?

This Sunday evening will be the 3rd ep of this 9th season. I read this is the last season.

Yeah I had no idea it already started but I am getting caught up right now. I saw something that said the final Rick Grimes episodes. If they are saying he is going to die I don't understand why they spoiled it...

Damn Gabriel! In that bitch over a log and teach her how to speak proper English.

I hadn't read anything about how it ends.

S9E3 Warning Signs: A better ep than the prior two. Get some intrigue shaping up. The current alliance is teetering. We get hints of the helicopter people again. Been a while since we've heard from them. Wasn't there an ep where Rick's group traded with the older woman who was with the helicopter people?

I don't know it's getting ready to happen but last night the preview for next week's said Rick Grimes only has two episodes left And even Chris Hardwick was talking about how everyone knew it would happen eventually when talking dead first came on. Why in the hell would they spoil something like that?

I don't believe any rumors. Don't want to know either. There's no fun in ruining your enjoyment of what's to come anyway. I think this is going to be pretty cool.

Did you remember anything about the helicopter people?

All I remember before was they came in to check on Jadis but she waved them away. Perhaps she originally planned on giving Negan to them? All I know is that bitch cannot be trusted no matter what anyone does for her.

Hmm... ya, not sure. Until this 3rd ep, I didn't know Jadis had anything to do with the helopeople.

I seem to remember a helo landing and this older lady came with military men and they talked with Rick and gang, and then they made a trade with a truck load of stuff. But now I don't trust my memory on this. I think I might look this up. ::big grin::

Well if they actually are planning on killing off Rick next week, they did a hell of a job ruining it for everyone. I'm guessing there's going to be some weird plot twist to it but this is still throwing me for a loop. I guess we will find out next Sunday.

Ya, it doesn't look good for Rick. You never know what's gonna happen. They could kill off anybody, but I just not expecting anyone in particular. Pretty good show this week.

I kind of get the hint that Maggie is going to happen by at the last moment and help him but I don't know. I'm anxious to see Negan in light so we can see his white beard.

I think that ship sailed when they actually ANNOUNCED it some months before the season even started airing.
So concerned with fan reactions that they started publicly babbling excuses.
They keep doing this actually.
For once, the creators of the show are just as bad as insiders/fans with this shit.

You know...he really does seem to nail the personality, but I feel like they chose the wrong actor, or the right one some decade too late.
He has presence, but he looks almost skinny and frail. Negan in the comic is a tank in comparison.
He still has an interesting story ahead - though one integral and interesting part of it will be missing due to certain character/s not being around any more.

At this point I don't think they know what the hell they are doing. Perhaps they spoiled Rick's death because so many people freaked the hell out over Glenn and Abraham's deaths. I honestly think at this point they are just beating a dead horse with this show. All the key characters that are still around in the comics are dead on the show. I feel like they jumped the shark when they killed off Carl. I have a feeling the show in general might not be lasting but another season or so considering everything that's going on.

Unbelievably inappropriate for the creators to announce Rick would die this season. I'm assuming a cheap ploy to increase viewership. It didn't work. This seasons avg is down a million and a half from last seasons last 6 eps.

I haven't read the comics, but the actor they choose for Negan I think has worked well. He does seem a bit slight recently, but I didn't that impression in his first eps. He fist fought Simon for leadership, but I don't know if that was always an open invitation... that would certainly matter how big Negan would have to be.

I have a prediction for tonight's Walking Dead. I don't think Rick is going to die. I think Jada's is going to take him so she can get out and he will disappear but won't actually died. He might return one day or he might end up on Fear. Who knows at this point? I'm just calling it.

Interesting prediction. I don't know how Jadis would know where he is. She wasn't even in on throwing Rick off track (ala Daryl and Maggie), and wasn't in on the loop of where he was going (to Negan's cell).

actually, nobody knows where he is except Daryl in general. Show be interesting.