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The Villain 08-22-2013 09:34 AM

I'm neg voting Final Destination. Its a fun movie with a cool concept but nothing special

Kandarian Demon 08-22-2013 11:29 AM

I will back Final Destination. There are other movies that I felt were MORE deserving, but they're out of the game now anyway, and out of the ones that are left, Final Destination is the one I would rather see on the list.

_____V_____ 08-22-2013 11:43 AM

Done.

We are still at 21 films.

tiberius 08-22-2013 12:11 PM

I'll back Final Destination

The Villain 08-22-2013 12:19 PM

I'll back Shadow of The Vampire

Kandarian Demon 08-22-2013 01:57 PM

Hey V - since I know that you always wait for a certain amount of the participants to agree on the final choices, I thought I'd let you know that I will be offline for most of the weekend.

Sculpt 08-22-2013 03:11 PM

So it's easier to see, please if you would, will you put the underlined films altogether at the top? Thank you, V. (even seeing ones with 2 backings helps)

For discussions sake, I think the strongest films are:
Little Otik (2000)
The Orphanage (2007)

I think these films have garnered notability/fame, but it doesn't make them good:
The Devil's Backbone (2001) - saw recently, beautifully shot, but very slow, and story very unoriginal, with characters and story a bit shallow.
Final Destination (2000) - cool camera shots, creative story, but weak acting and dialogue, the people getting killed in accidents is sort of old hat.
Battle Royale (2000) - Just saw a month ago - the story idea is great, as is Takeski Kitano; the problem is the rest of the film, which is 85% of it, which is teens killing each other, hardly ever with any creativity. The two teen protagonist convey some tenderness to each other, but I found everything else subpar. I found it rather tedious & often times ridiculous, even for teen dialogue.
Shadow of the Vampire (2000) - Loved, loved, loved the concept! & I'm a Malcovich fan. However, for me, I just didn't think it worked. I found it tedious. As one critic wrote "almost unspeakable dialogue. ohn Malkovich recites his lines as if monomania were synonymous with monotonic." The concept was there, but the story, and/or execution failed for to me.
I don't think any of them are worthy of the HR. I'm floating a neg for one of them.

Straker 08-22-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 955547)
Battle Royale (2000) - Just saw a month ago - the story idea is great, as is Takeski Kitano; the problem is the rest of the film, which is 85% of it, which is teens killing each other, hardly ever with any creativity. The two teen protagonist convey soon tenderness to each other, but I found everything else subpar. I found it rather tedious & often times ridiculous, even for teen dialogue.

Couldn't disagree with you more on this one, sorry....What elevates BR is the depth of characters and tragic reality of each individual story. Its actually incredible story telling that so much story/ back story is given in such a short space of time and how it manages to emotionally attach the audience to each character, especially given the backdrop of absolute carnage. I'm not gonna try to name each character as my recall for Japanese names isn't all that good, but I can honestly say I don't think I have ever watched a movie and cared for so many characters as much as I did with BR. The deaths themselves are actually superficial to the story, which is an incredibly impressive achievement considering how violent the movie is.

Sculpt 08-22-2013 06:01 PM

I still think your pick of Little Otik (2000) is much richer.

The Villain 08-22-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Straker (Post 955550)
Couldn't disagree with you more on this one, sorry....What elevates BR is the depth of characters and tragic reality of each individual story. Its actually incredible story telling that so much story/ back story is given in such a short space of time and how it manages to emotionally attach the audience to each character, especially given the backdrop of absolute carnage. I'm not gonna try to name each character as my recall for Japanese names isn't all that good, but I can honestly say I don't think I have ever watched a movie and cared for so many characters as much as I did with BR. The deaths themselves are actually superficial to the story, which is an incredibly impressive achievement considering how violent the movie is.

I agree with Straker. Excellently put. It would be a shame if BR didn't make the list or honorable mentions.

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 955552)
I still think your pick of Little Otik (2000) is much richer.

Wish we could get more support for that one


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