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urgeok 01-18-2005 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Whatever the reasons...the same things have been said about horror films from day one!

YOU may piss on "C. Holo", but there are just as many people who woulld piss on a film you like and consider acceptable while screaming the same slogans of "disgusting and distasteful".

And in fact many horses used to be killed for Westerns. hence the banninig on tripping them up with ropes.
So lets slam and refuse to watch them as well.

HK films have been killing animals on film for decades, and they are still so cool and hip to johhny come lately fans.

And animals die worse deaths every day for your burgers.
Yes the animal snuff (although the turtle is actually a very fast death, they take the head off first) is very dubious and should be thought about...but that does not change the quality of the film it is in.
And a film should be judged as a whole.

And again, there are just as many 'others' out there who would vomit out venom with such power they make you look like a child...and it will be venom aiamed at a film you DO like and approve of.


The western thing bothered me as well, always has ...
If this was a forum about westerns trust me - it would have been mentioned when the question of animal cruelty comes up.
I cant stand it in any film and it bothers me enough to taint the film for me ... so it affects how i see the film as a whole.
The same way i felt about Apocolypse Now .. by the way.
Thats the one good use for CGI...

I can take fake gore ... i cant watch an animal get killed.
(and yes - i occasionally eat meat .. but i wouldnt go to the abbatoir as a source of entertainment - these arent films about the meat packing business)

I have C.H on laserdisc by the way .. I dont judge a film without seeing it. It's not all that brilliant of a film either way ..

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And again, there are just as many 'others' out there who would vomit out venom with such power they make you look like a child...and it will be venom aiamed at a film you DO like and approve of.
this was a very odd thing to say ...
a little beneath you dont you think ?

I could care less if people dont agree with the films i like .. Actually I take that back .. i do care - and i enjoy it. I have enough knowledge and intelligence to get a dialogue going about it. It's not like a personal affront on me .. i didnt make the film, and I'm mature enough to realize that we all have different tastes.

I think you're a decent knowledgable contributer to the forum, I must say i'm a little suprised at how protective you are about your opinions to give such a knee-jerk reaction.

42ndStreetFreak 01-18-2005 06:04 AM

I'm not protective of my opinions..just of these films.

And like Isaid, there are people out there who are experts, fanatic experts, at slamming ALL horror/exploitation films as the lowest of the low and would have basically all of them destroyed (Films were banned and BURNT/DESTROYED in the UK during the 'Nasties' craze..with people uttering the exact same descriptions used towards "C.Holo")..and I don't like to see this happen 'in-house'.

Dislike a film for the film's sake by all means....but slam it for the quality, or not, of the film as a whole.
Not for something you consider 'disgusting' to you personally...because that can work to both ways to much more extreme heights and can come back and bite you right in the arse.

When I reviewed "Can Holo" for 'Zombiekeeper' and one my site I gave it a very good review but criticised the attitiude towards the animals...but that does not change the film.
It's an aspect to comment on, but has nothing to do with how good or not the film is inthe final judgement. Just like any other film.

42ndStreetFreak 01-18-2005 06:19 AM

The Good Die Young". TOP NOTCH British thriller with a superb cast that QT must have seen at some point as there are some close links to "Reservoir Dogs" with a tale of a bunch of strangers coming together to pull a heist and we learn about their backgrounds before the job takes place.

But what a cast!
Laurence Harvey in his prime and dripping sophisticated sexuality as the cruel head of the gang.
The GREAT Stanley Baker in top 'hard guy with a heart' mode as a tragic ex-Boxer.
And supporting them we have John Ireland, Richard Basehart, a VERY young Joan Collins and a wonderfully horrible turn by Freda "Brides of Dracula" Jackson as Collin's manipulative Mother.
Nothing groundbreaking, but a solid watch and a great cast.

AUSTIN316426808 01-18-2005 06:50 AM

Why are you trying to take up for a film because somebody thinks it's disgusting and distasteful? that's just that person's opinion for some people that messes the whole movie up but for others it might've made the movie better.

for example i saw the others with a friend of mine just a few months ago and he didn't like it because he thinks ghost are real people who have died and deserve respect and to make a movie about ghost as entertainment was disrespectful to the dead so of course that screwed the whole movie up for him and he hated it but i loved it. He thought it was disrespectful and uncalled for much like someone said Cannibal Holocaust is distasteful and disgusting i don't agree with him and thought the film was great,you don't agree with the individual that gave those comments about Can Holo. but they're all opinions so why are you getting so bent out of shape about it?

AUSTIN316426808 01-18-2005 06:56 AM

saw Happy Hell Night yesterday and it was horrible and maybe i'm wrong but i thought it ripped off Halloween just a bit.

guy commits murder and is thrown into asylum for alot of year(can't remember specific amount) escapes on Halloween (which is also called hell night in the film because it's the same night that frat pleges get their initiation assignment) and starts a killing spree.

urgeok 01-18-2005 07:32 AM

the only thing i've seen since saturday is the same 8 goddamn Little Lulu cartoons over and over again because my 4 year old is somehow hooked on them.

he'll watch 25 different things then get stuck on one...for ages.

The cartoons are kind of cool because they are ancient ...
But jeazuz ... enough already !

Angra 01-18-2005 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
the only thing i've seen since saturday is the same 8 goddamn Little Lulu cartoons over and over again because my 4 year old is somehow hooked on them.

he'll watch 25 different things then get stuck on one...for ages.

The cartoons are kind of cool because they are ancient ...
But jeazuz ... enough already !


I loved "G.I. Joe" & "Transformers" when i was a kid...... Snif, snif... Those where the days...


:D

IDrinkYourBlood 01-18-2005 08:54 AM

my last seen movie was "Dawn of the Dead"
I woke up at 7 a.m. this morning and couldnt get back to sleep so i watched that!!! Jerk ass's each and everyone one of you!!!*shakes fist*

urgeok 01-18-2005 09:26 AM

what's a jerk ass ???!!!!

IDrinkYourBlood 01-18-2005 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
what's a jerk ass ???!!!!
pffff, you obviously:rolleyes:

urgeok 01-18-2005 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by IDrinkYourBlood
pffff, you obviously:rolleyes:

dont come in here bitchin' just because you live on the coldest most miserable part of our planet :D


i still dont understand what a jerk ass could possibly be.


I cant jerk my ass...
(must be an 'out west' thing)

immortalem 01-18-2005 10:29 AM

The last movie I saw was Phantom of the Opera and I loved it.

Angra 01-18-2005 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by immortalem
The last movie I saw was Phantom of the Opera and I loved it.

Wich version are you talking about?

slasherman 01-18-2005 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
"Silent Night, Bloody Night"
Still havent seen this....have to by it soon !:eek:

slasherman 01-18-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Whatever the reasons...the same things have been said about horror films from day one!

And in fact many horses used to be killed for Westerns. hence the banninig on tripping them up with ropes.
So lets slam and refuse to watch them as well.

And animals die worse deaths every day for your burgers.
Yes the animal snuff (although the turtle is actually a very fast death, they take the head off first) is very dubious and should be thought about...but that does not change the quality of the film it is in.
And a film should be judged as a whole.


Agree...i even think the killing in "Apocalypse Now" is real....Francis Ford just filmed a local killing of an animal....they used it as a ritual and food.....
I'm a animal friend but you cant stop evolution....

AUSTIN316426808 01-18-2005 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
Wich version are you talking about?
probably the film that was recently released.

Amalthea 01-18-2005 12:33 PM

James Bond - On Her Majesty´s Secret Service

Nemesis412 01-18-2005 12:35 PM

By your guys' convo's I wanna see cano holo. I don't think animals should be killed for any for of art but I still wanna see it.

Michaels Shape 01-18-2005 12:40 PM

Watched Darkness last night.

IDrinkYourBlood 01-18-2005 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Amalthea
James Bond - On Her Majetsy´s Secret Service
you are officially an awsome person

IDrinkYourBlood 01-18-2005 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Nemesis412
By your guys' convo's I wanna see cano holo. I don't think animals should be killed for any for of art but I still wanna see it.
its a kick ass movie. Not as good as Cannibal Ferox though

AUSTIN316426808 01-18-2005 01:04 PM

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And animals die worse deaths every day for your burgers.
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God said we could use animals for food he didn't say we could kill them to make movies.

and if you don't believe in God then look at it this way we use animals for food which is needed to live on the other hand in this film animals were used for entertainment which is not needed for anything.

Angra 01-18-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Michaels Shape
Watched Darkness last night.
Wich one? :confused:

The spanish "Darkness"? That one sucked!! :mad:


I saw it about a year ago on tv and thought it was a stinker and quickly forgot about it again.
Then half a year ago i was searching for creepy horror movies on ebay and stumbled upon this spanish movie named "Darkness". I read about it on IMDB and thought it sound interesting and promising, so i bought it home. When it arrived i looked on the back of the cover, and an uneasy feeling came over me. The pictures looked familiar. I put it in my dvd player, and after 1 minute of watching it the truth kicked me in the face... DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!!!!!!

Michaels Shape 01-18-2005 01:28 PM

Watching Spawn right now.

Nemesis412 01-18-2005 01:29 PM

Yes I think that is messed up but I still wanna see it. Blah I don't believe in god anymore.

AUSTIN316426808 01-18-2005 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Michaels Shape
Watching Spawn right now.
for God sakes why

Nemesis412 01-18-2005 01:42 PM

haha yeah it did suck but I kinda liked it

Michaels Shape 01-18-2005 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
for God sakes why
You wanna know the funny thing? I have no flippin idea.

ChEEbA 01-18-2005 01:46 PM

I have to give the movie Spawn at least this - I loved the way they did his cape effects...
That is all.

Amalthea 01-18-2005 01:58 PM

You´re awesome too Idrinkyourblood!

Michaels Shape 01-18-2005 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by ChEEbA
I have to give the movie Spawn at least this - I loved the way they did his cape effects...
That is all.

Haha, Yeah thats about it, the effects on his cape when hes on the motorcycle was sweet.

arron wardlaw 01-18-2005 02:13 PM

last movie i watched was dead end by two first time french directors. pretty decent. also recently watched dawn aand day of the dead originals. quality, bring on land
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Michaels Shape 01-18-2005 02:16 PM

Go tell somebody who fucking cares.















Just kidding.

arron wardlaw 01-18-2005 02:22 PM

top comment ballbag dont you get to swear at anyone in your house.just joshing
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Nemesis412 01-18-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by arron wardlaw
last movie i watched was dead end by two first time french directors. pretty decent. also recently watched dawn aand day of the dead originals. quality, bring on land
Yeah man love dawn. i didnt like day that much it was ok.


You're Scottish? Thats freakin sweet I am somewhat. More Irish though. I have cuz's that live in Scotland.

arron wardlaw 01-18-2005 02:46 PM

where about in scotland i might know them theres only about twenty people live here its so cold
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taylorsmommy 01-19-2005 03:59 AM

Watched 13th Child: Legend of the Jersey Devil last night. This is quite possibly the worst horror movie I've seen yet, even with the major stars who were in it. Poorly written, poorly acted, and very poorly edited. Don't waste your time if you come upon it.

urgeok 01-19-2005 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by ChEEbA
I have to give the movie Spawn at least this - I loved the way they did his cape effects...
That is all.

what i couldnt get was the decent cgi for the cape/chains, etc ...
but that lame 80's cgi for satan ... right out of lawnmower man.

Angra 01-19-2005 09:54 AM

"Audition". It was ok...

slasherman 01-20-2005 06:11 AM

"The Villiage"..what a piece of shit..
Some good acting but thats about it...even worse than "the Sign"

"SPOILER"

"Into The Mirror"..a south korean ghost movie..."It will do to mirrors what The Ring did to tv´s" was the teaser on the videocover..
That is of course not true but its a ok ghost movie..but not very scary though...It reminded me more of "the Phone" than "the Ring"....
It has a very modern look with fancy camera movement and trick shots...some impossible camera movements and if somebody remembers that trick shot from "the Matrix" were camera zoom in on a surveillance monitor and ends up with a normal shot...this is used many times....
Worth seeing on a boring day...


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