Exactly. I hate them both but I hate pinhead more. And I'm not saying that Pinhead would lose because I hate him so much, but ebcause it's true.

Shhh! Don't give them any ideas.

freddy do you hate all characters but kreuger and lecter?

I heard the John Carpender and Clive Barker were going to make a Helloween but the fans begged him not too...

if clive barker and john carpenter got together and did this.. then ok... there might be something clever to tie them together... but i still think this would be a real push... i mean as you can see... pinhead didn't stand a chance against the doctor in hellraiser two... i think michael would tear HIS soul apart.. seeing as how michael was born pure evil... pinhead was born human and humane and at times shows a conscience

Trust me it's going to be one hell of a good movie. There isn't going to be anything crap about it. Michael will not open the box there will be a twist and a new way to summon Pinhead and the Cenobites. That's all I can say at the moment.

dude.. you can't just change the way to summon pinhead........

especially since bloodlines was done so far into the future.. it basically already wrote the guideline for all other movies

It will all fit nicely into place. Trust me I'm not changing anything not really anyway. It's going to be different I admit but it will make sense.

not changing anything really?!?!?!?!

you're taking away the center of the hellraiser series

No I'm not. You not understanding what I'm trying to say. It's like the movies but I'm only going to change a minor detail. It will still be the same and like I said before it will make sense. I was thinking of Michael opening the box but really why would he want to? So I'm trying hard to follow the storylines but to make it more realistic I'm changing how Pinhead is raised. It has something to do with the box but it will make it more inventive and realistic.