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The Villain 08-14-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 955002)
I like Arachnaphobia, I just don't think it belongs in the top 22.

Nightbreed, however, is, according to Barker, his most personal film, and I think we can all agree that Barker is an important voice in modern horror. The fact thsat it was altered by the studio and most people have not seen the film that Barker wanted the world to see, is its main barrier to acceptance.

I fully expect that when The Cabal Cut is released next year it will be hailed as the amazing film it is. Then people are going to wish it was on the list.

Alright i'm sold. I'll back Nightbreed as well and eagerly await The Cabal Cut. I've never seen it so i think i'll just wait for that cut to come out before i check it out.

_____V_____ 08-14-2013 08:48 PM

All added.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1042

Looks like Ringu and Nightbreed will be our 2 chosen films to join the top 20. If everyone is in joint agreement, we shall start working on the Honorable Mentions shortly.



I would also like to bring to the attention of all members involved, a film which I have glaringly overlooked while compiling the 80s. IMDB had it categorised as Comedy/Fantasy/Sci-Fi so it obviously skipped out on my "Horror/Thriller/Crime" searches while making the comprehensive Master List.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthre...=57593&page=32

The film is Ghost Busters - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087332/?ref_=sr_1

I request all members to go through our finalised choices for the 80s again, and see if Ghost Busters is good enough to replace any film in the Top 22 or 6 Honorable Mentions. If a strong enough case is made for it but it doesn't find enough backings, I'll consider giving it a spot in the "HDC Members Specially Recommend..." section of this project.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1041

I really apologise for this mistake. Thanks to Sculpt for bringing this to my notice via PM.


So, let's hear your thoughts on the 90s, and on Ghost Busters, folks.

The Villain 08-14-2013 08:52 PM

I'm good on our final two spots for the 90's.

As for Ghostbusters, i've always felt it was more comedy then horror. Yeah there's ghosts in it and demons but it's not scary, it's not disturbing, and it doesnt evoke any of the kind of emotions a horror movie should bring out in a person. Besides containing some elements of horror, the movie really doesnt represent horror in any way. I feel like it should be left out on purpose.

neverending 08-14-2013 08:53 PM

I could see replacing Wishmaster or New Nightmare with Ghostbusters, but I don't think you could get a majority to agree what film to kick out.

The Villain 08-14-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 955009)
I could see replacing Wishmaster or New Nightmare with Ghostbusters, but I don't think you could get a majority to agree what film to kick out.

Aren't those 90's movies? Ghostbusters is an 80's movie.

neverending 08-14-2013 09:01 PM

Ooops- clicked on the wrong link.


Really, I think it's too late to replace any films, even with one as iconic as Ghostbusters.

Put it in the special recommendations.

metternich1815 08-14-2013 09:17 PM

I agree with neverending; I think it should be in the special reccomendations section. It may be primarily a comedic film, but it has horror elements (very similar to Little Shop of Horrors) and is an excellent film. I am fine with those two choices for the 1990s.

Straker 08-14-2013 09:39 PM

I actually went back and forth on whether to add Ghostbusters to my original list, in the end it didn't make my cut.... I should add that it is one of my favourite comedies of all time, and holds a special place in my heart. I was pretty ruthless with comedy/ horror and they didn't get much of a look in until the 2000s, where there was a wave of dark satire in the genre that I thought should be represented. So I wouldn't personally back Ghostbusters to replace any of the movies already in the cut, but fully agree with NE. I think its a perfect choice for the special recommendations. That said, If there is enough strength behind it though I'm not going to kick up a fuss if people want to revise the cut, its an amazing movie.

Giganticface 08-14-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 954990)
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'd like to get back to that blog, and perhaps I will at some point, but I just don't have the time currently. I write from time to time for a couple other internet publications. I can send you links to those if you're interested.
Thanks again!

Absolutely! Feel free to PM me. I'd love to check them out.

...

My opinion on including Nightbreed -- and not really lobbying to change anything, but just my opinion -- is that the film we're voting on is not the Cabal Cut. NE is the only one that's seen that version, and I don't know how technical we wanna get, but that version didn't come out in the 90s. So we're actually voting on the original, pretty flawed, version, which is still a really cool concept, but IMO not worthy of the top 22. When someone reads this list, they will be reading a recommendation for the 1990 film. I suggest making it a special mention, and then someone (neverending, hint, hint) can do a blurb about it, including its interesting history and his experience seeing the Cabal Cut. That's just my 2 cents.

(I would instead include Sleepaway Camp.)

[Edit]
Wait, I might be a little behind on this thread... if this is for considering Nightbreed for honorable mention, I think that's a good fit.

RE: Ghostbusters -- I considered this one when submitting my 80s list. It's a 10/10 in my book, but I ended up not including it because it's so much more funny than it is scary. I wouldn't have a problem at all if it would have been in the debate, but I don't think it's a must-have. Special mentions feels like a perfect fit for including great films that are on the fringe of horror.

[Nuther edit]
Oh wow, I just noticed Audition got bumped out -- even though it got six votes originally! Bummer. Oh well, hopefully it makes the honorable mentions.

_____V_____ 08-15-2013 12:15 AM

Excellent. Ghost Busters finds a place in the special section, as per 5 members who have spoken (if anyone else disagrees, feel free to post).

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Originally Posted by Giganticface (Post 955021)
(I would instead include Sleepaway Camp.)

That's already in the 80s finalised films. We are in the 90s now. :p

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Originally Posted by Giganticface (Post 955021)
Oh wow, I just noticed Audition got bumped out -- even though it got six votes originally! Bummer. Oh well, hopefully it makes the honorable mentions.

Not just yet.

If enough people are not in favor, we can still debate Nightbreed and Ringu. Only 3 members have agreed on both films so far - it's still open for debate.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1042

For the record, as things stand at the moment:-

Nightbreed - 5 backings
Ringu - 4 backings
Audition - 3 backings
Deep Blue Sea - 3 backings + a negative vote
Leprechaun - 2 backings
From Dusk Till Dawn - 2 backings
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later - 2 backings
Night of the Living Dead - 2 backings
Event Horizon - 2 backings
Natural Born Killers - 2 backings
The Faculty - 2 backings
Tremors - 2 backings

Audition still has a chance to leap-frog Ringu, if it gets 2 more backings.


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