Would YOU vote for the Creeper??

[meetthecreeper]

OK all this politcal crap, which I have a love/hate relationship with, has given me an idea. If I,The Creeper, ran for president would you vote for me??

Here is my platform

Taxes-consumption tax, plain and simple, the more that you use, the more that you pay. Basically like a flat tax. I dont believe in this class warfare stuff that some politcians try to push off on us. If you worked your ass off to become rich then you earned it, you keep it. I honestly believe that if peoples taxes were lower they would give more to charities, the needy and so on.

Gun Control- there wouldnt be any, except if you are a criminal, you are never allowed to own a firearm of any kind, and I mean violent criminal not some 17 year old busted for smoking pot. 38 states in the US allow concealed carry of handguns, I say let them all have it nationally. There isnt going to be blood running in the streets, there isnt now in those 38 states like the blissninnies predicted. An armed society is a peaceful society.

Abortion- I personally am male and think I have no right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body, I do personally feel that it is wrong and think that it should be discouraged. Safe sex practices need to be taught by the parents not the government. But if a woman thinks it has to be done I will not stand in her way to do so. Partial birth abortion is wrong on almost every level, unless it is a danger to the mother then it should not be allowed.

Same sex marriages- Who really gives a shit, Life,liberty and the pursuit of hapiness does not apply only to heterosexuals. That we are having this discussion in this day and age I think is ridiculous. Being gay is not wrong whether it you were born that way or because of your enviorment. I dont know if I am gay or not, I never met a man I was attracted to,although Arioch is looking pretty hott, Just kidding.

Terrorism and national security-Ok the war in Iraq in my opinion was justified, our intellegence is messed up and needs to be overhauled no doubt. But if I say that somebody fucks with us we give it back to them threefold. We should not be the worlds police force though. And being in the military ought to pay a hell of a lot more than it does.

Education and children-Leave the government out of it, basically they cant do anything right without fucking it up. If your kid isnt doing well in school then we need to find out why, is it the teachers? the parents? or what? Parents need to get more involved with what goes on in their kids lives, if not I will personally give them an asskicking.

Enviorment and energy-Hunters are the first conservationists, control the population of deer, by hunting, and you wont have shit like chronic wasting disease like they do in Wis.
Drill for oil in Anwar, deal with it, this should be done with the greatest care possible, jointly with oil companies and enviro groups. Alternative energy is possible but expensive. Continue to recycle and lets not abuse the planet even though mother earth is a durable place, we still need to take care of her.

Housing and the homeless-lets build some housing projects on those damn 800 acre golf courses that the arrogant rich folk have. To take a page from George Carlin, nobody needs to knock a 1 inch ball into a 3 inch cup from 400 yards away, thats what minnie golf is for.

Religion-I dont care what, or who you worship its your business, and if any body says boo about they need to be thrown out of the USA. Therefore The Force is now legit. And Wicca can again be recognized.

Have I missed something let me know and I will explain myself, also all politcians have term limits no more career politcians.

[massacre man]

with the childeren thing people automatically think im smart i guess im going to above average classes all i do is talk and right down horror movie ideas and scenes

[thEsounDofdirT]

with the abortion stance.. i think you're a little too vague ... i say the ONLY way a baby should be aborted is during pre-cephalo development in the embrionic stage... which is around the first 2 months of pregnancy in the embrionic stage... this means if a baby starts developing a brain.. it shouldn't be aborted... and considering most women don't even know they're pregnant until a month to 2 months into their term, abortion should be a rare use... when women say.. "it's my body, i'll do what i want..." i say fuck you.. because it's no longer their body when the baby begins devolopment of its brain.. it becomes the body of the baby and to me... taking a life of another human is just murder...

[Hate_Breeder]

i would

[orangestar]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
with the abortion stance.. i think you're a little too vague ... i say the ONLY way a baby should be aborted is during pre-cephalo development in the embrionic stage... which is around the first 2 months of pregnancy in the embrionic stage... this means if a baby starts developing a brain.. it shouldn't be aborted... and considering most women don't even know they're pregnant until a month to 2 months into their term, abortion should be a rare use... when women say.. "it's my body, i'll do what i want..." i say fuck you.. because it's no longer their body when the baby begins devolopment of its brain.. it becomes the body of the baby and to me... taking a life of another human is just murder...

I say as long as its first trimester, its still my body. so I say fuck you back.

[Egekrusher]

Originally posted by orangestar
I say as long as its first trimester, its still my body. so I say fuck you back.

*smack*

Ouch man.

[Dark..Raven]

I have no beef with your platform..Well thought out.. Ya goy my vote....

IOne little ripple though.. If we get hit, Ye should return it TWENTY fold. ( Prob me, Sorry. I admit I am a bastard that way):p

[Ritualistic]

u got my vote man

[thEsounDofdirT]

why do you say first trimester :) cephalo development begins before the first trimester is over ;-)

[massacre man]

way too many words i dont know see i dont pay attention in school

[thEsounDofdirT]

also orangestar .. i'm sorry if i offended you.. it's just my stance on abortion... i obtained it after studying child developmental psychology last semester and i just suddenly realized that i can't see how anyone can use the "it's my body" excuse once brain development begins...

so yea that's just my stance... people will argue over that forever but i simply say... fuck responsibly ;)

oh... and creeper.. your stance on housing.. get rid of those golf courses... i am for that

[thEsounDofdirT]

Originally posted by massacre man
way too many words i dont know see i dont pay attention in school

cephalo development just means brain development.. the term used to describe the development of a fetus is "cephalocaudic".. literally meaning 'head to tail' ... so you get a brain and then nervous system and then detailing of the limbs and such ...

[massacre man]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
cephalo development just means brain development.. the term used to describe the development of a fetus is "cephalocaudic".. literally meaning 'head to tail' ... so you get a brain and then nervous system and then detailing of the limbs and such ... why couldnt you say brain devolopment

[thEsounDofdirT]

ehh.. because i'm in study mode... that's what happens in college ...arg... my bad.. lol

[orangestar]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
why do you say first trimester :) cephalo development begins before the first trimester is over ;-)

right...so we dont really agree, but close.

and you didnt offend me. my "fuck you" was joking... I guess I could have said that :D

[bwind22]

No. Sorry, but I don't think I'd vote for you. Some of your ideas I would go for, but you're slightly too liberal for my taste. (No offense, obviously.)

Who's going to live in the housing projects? The poor and those on Welfare.
Who's going to benefit greatly from the sale of their land to the government? The wealthy golf course owners.
Who's left footing the bill by way of takes? The working class.

Your stance on abortion isn't firm whatsoever. 'It would be discouraged'? What's that mean? Someone standing outside of every clinic shaking their head and saying, "I wouldn't do that if I were you?" That pretty much already happens and it doesn't do anything.

I disagree with your stance on same sex 'marriage', but my objection is to the use of the word 'marriage'. See the other thread (Who are you gonna vote for in November?) for more detail into my stance on this.

Gun control, religion, and national security, I'm right there with ya.

As for education, it's the parents. Actually, I blame the fact that 'political correctness' won't allow a parent to discipline their child without the possibility of having the State Dept. come in and take them away. So, now we have a generation of kids growing up thinking they can do whatever they want, then doing it, getting away with it or getting a minimal 'slap on the wrist'. (Not literally of course! That would be child abuse! [/sarcasm]) Since there is no consequence to the doing whatever they want, they have no reason to stop or change. The parents need to get off their ass and teach their kids how to act.

[allmykids]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
with the abortion stance.. i think you're a little too vague ... i say the ONLY way a baby should be aborted is during pre-cephalo development in the embrionic stage... which is around the first 2 months of pregnancy in the embrionic stage... this means if a baby starts developing a brain.. it shouldn't be aborted... and considering most women don't even know they're pregnant until a month to 2 months into their term, abortion should be a rare use... when women say.. "it's my body, i'll do what i want..." i say fuck you.. because it's no longer their body when the baby begins devolopment of its brain.. it becomes the body of the baby and to me... taking a life of another human is just murder...

Thank you !!! I am a women And i think abortion is MURDER!!!
If the womens life is in danger that would be the exception. but as a form of birth control No!!!! i agree with the other things CREEPER !!!!!

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by bwind22
No. Sorry, but I don't think I'd vote for you. Some of your ideas I would go for, but you're slightly too liberal for my taste. (No offense, obviously.)

Who's going to live in the housing projects? The poor and those on Welfare.
Who's going to benefit greatly from the sale of their land to the government? The wealthy golf course owners.
Who's left footing the bill by way of takes? The working class.

Your stance on abortion isn't firm whatsoever. 'It would be discouraged'? What's that mean? Someone standing outside of every clinic shaking their head and saying, "I wouldn't do that if I were you?" That pretty much already happens and it doesn't do anything.

I disagree with your stance on same sex 'marriage', but my objection is to the use of the word 'marriage'. See the other thread (Who are you gonna vote for in November?) for more detail into my stance on this.

Gun control, religion, and national security, I'm right there with ya.

As for education, it's the parents. Actually, I blame the fact that 'political correctness' won't allow a parent to discipline their child without the possibility of having the State Dept. come in and take them away. So, now we have a generation of kids growing up thinking they can do whatever they want, then doing it, getting away with it or getting a minimal 'slap on the wrist'. (Not literally of course! That would be child abuse! [/sarcasm]) Since there is no consequence to the doing whatever they want, they have no reason to stop or change. The parents need to get off their ass and teach their kids how to act.


Actually people think I am pretty right wing, the idea is to get people off of welfare, dont you think that we have become a society that is too dependent on the govt.? I think that 70 years ago during the depression people helped each other out, not the govt. I can tell you that if I was taxed less I would give more to those in need. The homeless have to go somewhere dont they? I didnt say sell golf courses to the govt. I know the idea sounds crazy but something needs to be done. I have to say I dont know too many people that would step over someone sleeping on the sidewalk.

As for abortion I think that it is wrong, but since Iam a male and have no idea what it is like to have a baby, what gives me the right to tell a woman what they can and cannot do with there bodies? I am really unsure of when life really begins, so I dont know when to say it is too late for this. I think since its legal it will never be made illegal and it is something that has to be dealt with. My problem with the right is preaching abstaining from sex, yeah right thats going to happen. With parents who dont have enough "time" to be involved with their childrens lives it isnt going to happen. There are few parents who teach their kids anything about sex and those that do should be given a fucking medal for getting involved and actually raising what they created.

Same sex marriage-I dont care who created the word, be it the French, Christians or whatever people have the right to pursue happiness. It doesnt bother me and I really dont see a problem with it. If 2 people love each other what difference does it make? Its wrong because the church says so? My religion doesnt say a damn thing about it.

About political correctness in education, my kids get discipline in many different forms, and some may see it as abuse for whatever reason. Believe me I know the difference between abuse and discipline I had to live with it growing up until I moved out at 17. But I will be damned if some govt. employee is going to tell me how to raise my children. Someone from the govt. comes and tries to take my kids from me for some alleged abuse they are going to get the business end of a shotgun in the face. In my home state, the govt. has decided that they are going to evaluate your childs mental status and they are going to decide whether or not they need treatment. Oh I think not!!! my state rep. has got the call from me on that, I dont want the government in any way shape or form involved in my childs life. And if they dont like that I will yank them out of school and home school them.

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by massacre man
way too many words i dont know see i dont pay attention in school

Blame your parents LOL

[massacre man]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Blame your parents LOL i blame horror movies or my laziness

[thEsounDofdirT]

Originally posted by allmykids
Thank you !!! I am a women And i think abortion is MURDER!!!
If the womens life is in danger that would be the exception. but as a form of birth control No!!!! i agree with the other things CREEPER !!!!!

:) glad we're in a similar thought process

[massacre man]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
:) glad we're in a similar thought process

i can use big words to


the square root of a ruteabega is atrocious

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by massacre man
i can use big words to


the square root of a ruteabega is atrocious ;) :D

[bwind22]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Actually people think I am pretty right wing, the idea is to get people off of welfare, dont you think that we have become a society that is too dependent on the govt.? I think that 70 years ago during the depression people helped each other out, not the govt. I can tell you that if I was taxed less I would give more to those in need. The homeless have to go somewhere dont they? I didnt say sell golf courses to the govt. I know the idea sounds crazy but something needs to be done. I have to say I dont know too many people that would step over someone sleeping on the sidewalk.

As for abortion I think that it is wrong, but since Iam a male and have no idea what it is like to have a baby, what gives me the right to tell a woman what they can and cannot do with there bodies? I am really unsure of when life really begins, so I dont know when to say it is too late for this. I think since its legal it will never be made illegal and it is something that has to be dealt with. My problem with the right is preaching abstaining from sex, yeah right thats going to happen. With parents who dont have enough "time" to be involved with their childrens lives it isnt going to happen. There are few parents who teach their kids anything about sex and those that do should be given a fucking medal for getting involved and actually raising what they created.

Same sex marriage-I dont care who created the word, be it the French, Christians or whatever people have the right to pursue happiness. It doesnt bother me and I really dont see a problem with it. If 2 people love each other what difference does it make? Its wrong because the church says so? My religion doesnt say a damn thing about it.

About political correctness in education, my kids get discipline in many different forms, and some may see it as abuse for whatever reason. Believe me I know the difference between abuse and discipline I had to live with it growing up until I moved out at 17. But I will be damned if some govt. employee is going to tell me how to raise my children. Someone from the govt. comes and tries to take my kids from me for some alleged abuse they are going to get the business end of a shotgun in the face. In my home state, the govt. has decided that they are going to evaluate your childs mental status and they are going to decide whether or not they need treatment. Oh I think not!!! my state rep. has got the call from me on that, I dont want the government in any way shape or form involved in my childs life. And if they dont like that I will yank them out of school and home school them.

You didn't say who would be paying for the housing projects. (Even though I'm sure it would be the taxpayers.) And how the hell is building more subsidized housing going to help eliminate Welfare, that's ass backwards. If you make it even easier for more people to get free housing, then more and more people are going to want to be lazy and get a free house. Not only that, but you can't just go claiming golf courses without compensating the owners. (Those owners may have poured their life savings into the course and now you want to take it and not compensate them? Yeah, that'll fly. :rolleyes:

On abortion, if the baby is half yours, then you have every right to want it to live. If Scott Peterson is being charged with 2 homicides (Lacy and the baby) then that right there tells me that abortion should be outlawed. How can they say 'it's a baby in this case, but not in that one'. That's stupid. If a woman is pregnant, there's a baby in there living and growing. Have you ever heard of a pregnant woman giving birth to anything other than a baby? No. The moment they are pregnant, that baby starts to develop.

Same sex marriage - Your answer here gives me even more reason not to vote for you. Because it doesn't mention marriage being holy in your religion, you are choosing to disrespect someone elses. The majority of this country is still Christian and the word marriage (although it's lost quite a bit) still has some real meaning behind it.

I don't believe I said that I was for government interfering with our kids. I put the blame squarely on the parents to do their thing and raise their kids.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
;) :D im genius and it is completely musalanimous

[mayoisthedevil]

no, i wouldn't. i'm a democract. although i do like your thoughts on same sex marriage and religion, most of the plans that you made i either don't agree with or it's too vague. but it's interesting to know what people think the govt should change. on that note, you forgot about death penalty.

[meetthecreeper]

I am trying to keep a straight face when I say this, but dont take it so seriously, I dont think that anyone should be getting free housing, I mean look at the way public housing works, its a joke, lets say we can build affordable housing on these golf courses how'd that be?


I agree with you on abortion its not an arguement that I think men in the world should be making. Can you imagine if a man took a woman to court to keep her from getting an abortion? Half the country would go beserk. I dont have an answer on how to stop it other than education and discouragement. What the Hell else is there to do? Put a total ban on it?? That aint going to happen. What I would like to see,and I mean this seriously, is some woman, who murders her children to use abortion rights as her defense, then people can see how hypocritcal they really are. Ever notice the same folks against the death penalty are for abortion and vice versa. Screwed up world we live in my friend.



I am not questioning the sanctity of marriage, I just think that its everyones right to pursue happiness and that includes gays. A marriage is nothing more than a legal document required by the state. What is important is the commitment that is made between the two people. I in no way or fashion am disrespecting Christianity, even though I can give a million reasons to I dont see the point in doing so.


No I didnt think that you said that either, I think that we are in total agreement that the govt. is involved way too much in the raising of our children, which I am against. I too put the blame on parents, I watch my children like a hawk watches a mouse in the field, and I dont let them out of my sight. I dont even let my own sister watch my kids because she disrespected my rules one time. Maybe we should make people get a liscence to have children because it seems that any old asshole can do it, sadly.

By the way thanks for the spirited debate.

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by mayoisthedevil
no, i wouldn't. i'm a democract. although i do like your thoughts on same sex marriage and religion, most of the plans that you made i either don't agree with or it's too vague. but it's interesting to know what people think the govt should change. on that note, you forgot about death penalty.

Death Penalty-in certain cases especially ones involving children should someone be put to death, but not all cases. I am more for the person or persons to rot in jail for the rest of their lives. ANd enough with this country club atmosphere in prison, hard core criminals need hard core prison. No rights what so ever, Devils Island comes to mind. I also think the prison system needs a drastic overhaul as well as the criminal justice system. People thrown in prison for drug crimes should be getting treatment and rehabilitation so they can productive in society. Educated and given a skill. There are always those that cant be helped or changed though.

[Angelakillsluts]

I'd vote for you :D

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
I'd vote for you :D
Thanks I love the state of Vermont, would love to move there someday.

On a side note I thought it was humorous that some thought my views to liberal and some thought my views to conservative.

Ahh the hell with it no government, Anarchy for all. YYEEAAHH

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper

Ahh the hell with it no government, Anarchy for all. YYEEAAHH

*tips over a car

...

What, I need to raise my post count ok? :p it's very pathetic.

[Ritualistic]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Thanks I love the state of Vermont, would love to move there someday.

On a side note I thought it was humorous that some thought my views to liberal and some thought my views to conservative.

Ahh the hell with it no government, Anarchy for all. YYEEAAHH LOL you cant satisfy everyone .... Politics suck !!

[fluffho]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Taxes-consumption tax, plain and simple, the more that you use, the more that you pay. Basically like a flat tax. I dont believe in this class warfare stuff that some politcians try to push off on us. If you worked your ass off to become rich then you earned it, you keep it. I honestly believe that if peoples taxes were lower they would give more to charities, the needy and so on.

Housing and the homeless-lets build some housing projects on those damn 800 acre golf courses that the arrogant rich folk have. To take a page from George Carlin, nobody needs to knock a 1 inch ball into a 3 inch cup from 400 yards away, thats what minnie golf is for.

Just read this finally. First thought that came to mind was that these 2 contradict each other. you Say" if yuo worked your ass off to become rich then you earned it, you keep it" but now yuo are taking away their golf courses? So are yuo saying there will be boundaries then with what they can do with their money?

just a thought......... :cool:

[mayoisthedevil]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Death Penalty-in certain cases especially ones involving children should someone be put to death, but not all cases. I am more for the person or persons to rot in jail for the rest of their lives. ANd enough with this country club atmosphere in prison, hard core criminals need hard core prison. No rights what so ever, Devils Island comes to mind. I also think the prison system needs a drastic overhaul as well as the criminal justice system. People thrown in prison for drug crimes should be getting treatment and rehabilitation so they can productive in society. Educated and given a skill. There are always those that cant be helped or changed though. ones involving children No rights what so ever

yeah, i agree with you on this. i really wanna kill those fuckers who mess with kids. :mad: The only thing i don't like about death penalty is if the person is innocent.

[fluffho]

hmm, i guess i missed the death penalty one

you are justified for the war, well isnt the exact reason why we are there are becasue of the atrocities committed upom their people, as well as ours, under Saddam Hussein? (eg exeuctions during dinners, soccer games) etc.

wouldnt this 'devils island' type prison just bring us down to their level?

and the majority of murders arent commmited Richard Ramirez 'i love to kill' style. but are rather, acts of passion. imagine walking into your house seeing a man raping your daughter, wouldnt that drive you to kill him? and im assuming, on you and the bulk of people here that you really dont want to kill someone. but in this situation wouldnt your judgement be skewed?

how about the fact that the bulk of people who do harm to others, were often times in their childhood harmed as well. again, this isnt justification but this reallly can fuck someone up. how about people with mental illnesses? yes, i think ramirez deserves to die and/or suffer but not all murderers are like that.. a lot of them were just normal joes like the rest of us until something fuced em up for a moment.

just another thought........... :cool:

[mayoisthedevil]

good point fluff

[fluffho]

just trying to show a different view point on things is all

[mayoisthedevil]

oh, just a quick question...do they really give the death penalty to the crimes of passion one? the example you gave, if you saw your daughter getting raped, couldn't they plead momentary insanity and not get the death penalty?

[bwind22]

If I came home to find my daughter/wife/mother/grandmother (Whoever!) getting raped, that rapist would be one dead mothefucker. That's why I have 2 guns in my house. One in the bedroom (In case someone tries to break in while I'm sleeping or something.) and one near the side door that I use to go in and out. (That one is put there exactly for situations like this.)

On a similar crimes of passion note, if I walked in on a guy fucking my wife (I'm not married yet, I'm speaking hypothetically here.) and she was into it (ie: having an affair) then I'd be getting charged with a double homicide because both of those fucks would take one in the skull.

I would certainly be momentarily insane with rage, but the fact that I keep a gun near the door (Not to mention discussing it in this thread) would probably be enough to convince the jury that I wasn't crazy. In fact they might even try to call it premeditated, (which it certainly wouldn't be.)

That's too bad. If the time comes that I ever have to make that decision (Hopefully never.) There wouldn't be any decision at all except whether to hide the bodies or call the cops.

[fluffho]

Originally posted by mayoisthedevil
oh, just a quick question...do they really give the death penalty to the crimes of passion one? the example you gave, if you saw your daughter getting raped, couldn't they plead momentary insanity and not get the death penalty?

dunno if anyone else answered this, but we covered this exact thing in class.

there are degrees, 1st and 2nd. 1st requires malice and aforethought, malice which is a given and aforethought showing thought.

2nd is this exactly, passion. there was probably a second of thuoght before the action. MUCH different between someone plotting something and the courts recognize this

momentary insanity would rarely apply here, but thats like in cases of post partum and such..

NOW there are ALWAYS exceptions eg crime of passion and u massacre 40 people? ... seee.....

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
OK all this politcal crap, which I have a love/hate relationship with, has given me an idea. If I,The Creeper, ran for president would you vote for me??

Here is my platform

Taxes-consumption tax, plain and simple, the more that you use, the more that you pay. Basically like a flat tax. I dont believe in this class warfare stuff that some politcians try to push off on us. If you worked your ass off to become rich then you earned it, you keep it. I honestly believe that if peoples taxes were lower they would give more to charities, the needy and so on.

Gun Control- there wouldnt be any, except if you are a criminal, you are never allowed to own a firearm of any kind, and I mean violent criminal not some 17 year old busted for smoking pot. 38 states in the US allow concealed carry of handguns, I say let them all have it nationally. There isnt going to be blood running in the streets, there isnt now in those 38 states like the blissninnies predicted. An armed society is a peaceful society.

Abortion- I personally am male and think I have no right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body, I do personally feel that it is wrong and think that it should be discouraged. Safe sex practices need to be taught by the parents not the government. But if a woman thinks it has to be done I will not stand in her way to do so. Partial birth abortion is wrong on almost every level, unless it is a danger to the mother then it should not be allowed.

Same sex marriages- Who really gives a shit, Life,liberty and the pursuit of hapiness does not apply only to heterosexuals. That we are having this discussion in this day and age I think is ridiculous. Being gay is not wrong whether it you were born that way or because of your enviorment. I dont know if I am gay or not, I never met a man I was attracted to,although Arioch is looking pretty hott, Just kidding.

Terrorism and national security-Ok the war in Iraq in my opinion was justified, our intellegence is messed up and needs to be overhauled no doubt. But if I say that somebody fucks with us we give it back to them threefold. We should not be the worlds police force though. And being in the military ought to pay a hell of a lot more than it does.

Education and children-Leave the government out of it, basically they cant do anything right without fucking it up. If your kid isnt doing well in school then we need to find out why, is it the teachers? the parents? or what? Parents need to get more involved with what goes on in their kids lives, if not I will personally give them an asskicking.

Enviorment and energy-Hunters are the first conservationists, control the population of deer, by hunting, and you wont have shit like chronic wasting disease like they do in Wis.
Drill for oil in Anwar, deal with it, this should be done with the greatest care possible, jointly with oil companies and enviro groups. Alternative energy is possible but expensive. Continue to recycle and lets not abuse the planet even though mother earth is a durable place, we still need to take care of her.

Housing and the homeless-lets build some housing projects on those damn 800 acre golf courses that the arrogant rich folk have. To take a page from George Carlin, nobody needs to knock a 1 inch ball into a 3 inch cup from 400 yards away, thats what minnie golf is for.

Religion-I dont care what, or who you worship its your business, and if any body says boo about they need to be thrown out of the USA. Therefore The Force is now legit. And Wicca can again be recognized.

Have I missed something let me know and I will explain myself, also all politcians have term limits no more career politcians.

Depends on who your opponent is. ;) I agree with more of your opinions than I disagree with.

[massacre man]

i cant vote:mad:

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by fluffho
Just read this finally. First thought that came to mind was that these 2 contradict each other. you Say" if yuo worked your ass off to become rich then you earned it, you keep it" but now yuo are taking away their golf courses? So are yuo saying there will be boundaries then with what they can do with their money?

just a thought......... :cool:

Well thanks for pointing that out to me fluff, now I am starting to sound like the typical politcian, flip flop. What can I say I hate golf. There thats my reason:p

[fluffho]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Well thanks for pointing that out to me fluff, now I am starting to sound like the typical politcian, flip flop. What can I say I hate golf. There thats my reason:p

hey it happens to the best of us. but at least if u ever ran u'd fit right in with the rest of the schmucks!

golf? hate golf? what r u talking about, golf is the sport of champions................ :p